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Adelle - 29 Mar 2006 00:34 GMT
Had my 6 month check. Since I haven't been doing as well lately, doc decided
to do some blood work before changing my meds. He wondered whether I had a
vitamin D deficiency, since that can cause a lot of the same symptoms.

Bingo!

Called his office, as requested on the lab report, but got the machine. Will
wait to see what he wants to do (took a multivitamin and calcium plus D, in
the meantime.).

Looked up the deficiency on the web and found I already eat a lot of foods
high in D, so am not sure what's up. I do stay inside a lot - it's damned
cold here in New England in the winter!!!!

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Alice Faber - 29 Mar 2006 00:51 GMT
> Had my 6 month check. Since I haven't been doing as well lately, doc decided
> to do some blood work before changing my meds. He wondered whether I had a
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> high in D, so am not sure what's up. I do stay inside a lot - it's damned
> cold here in New England in the winter!!!!

I had a conversation with a pharmaceutical-type guy at a Christmas party
a few years ago in which he was talking about the law of unintended
consequences. Apparently Vit. D deficiency is way up, probably because
of the proliferation of sun screens. It seems it's not enough to be out
in the sun, you have to be *exposed* to the sun! So, if you wear makeup
that has sunscreen in it, your need for Vit. D would increase. Or
something like that. (It *was* at a party!)

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Jay Smith - 29 Mar 2006 01:53 GMT
>> Had my 6 month check. Since I haven't been doing as well lately, doc decided
>> to do some blood work before changing my meds. He wondered whether I had a
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>that has sunscreen in it, your need for Vit. D would increase. Or
>something like that. (It *was* at a party!)

You believed him?
Thumper
Ann - 29 Mar 2006 02:09 GMT
I'm taking 10,000 units of Vit. D. three times a week because of a
deficiency. My levels were minus 7.  This came about when the
endocrinologist ran tests to see why my parathyroid intact hormone was
so high.  Interesting stuff and I'm learning more about it as I go
along. I don't feel much different but have only been on this rx for a
couple of weeks.

Ann
Ann - 29 Mar 2006 16:24 GMT
Oops, I mis-typed.  It's 50,000 units, not 10,000 that I take three
times a week.

Ann
Joan Carter - 29 Mar 2006 02:15 GMT
>I had a conversation with a pharmaceutical-type guy at a Christmas party
>a few years ago in which he was talking about the law of unintended
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>that has sunscreen in it, your need for Vit. D would increase. Or
>something like that. (It *was* at a party!)

I take 2,000 IU of Vitamin daily. The recommended dose is something like 200 or
400 IU which is not nearly enough. I took part in a study done by my MS clinic
and they recommend at least 800 IU a day. They think there is a correlation
between lack of sun/Vit. D and MS. The safe daily dose is much higher than what
I take. I'll see if I can find information on it.

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Joan
Gwen Love - 29 Mar 2006 02:24 GMT
Adelle, hope whatever he decides you need to do will work quickly and you
will begin to feel much better real soon.
Gwen

> Had my 6 month check. Since I haven't been doing as well lately, doc
> decided to do some blood work before changing my meds. He wondered whether
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> high in D, so am not sure what's up. I do stay inside a lot - it's damned
> cold here in New England in the winter!!!!
Jo Firey - 29 Mar 2006 02:43 GMT
> Had my 6 month check. Since I haven't been doing as well lately, doc
> decided to do some blood work before changing my meds. He wondered whether
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> high in D, so am not sure what's up. I do stay inside a lot - it's damned
> cold here in New England in the winter!!!!

At least the seasons are in your favor right now.  Have to wonder if the
lack of vit D makes SAD worse.

It doesn't take a lot of sunlight to give you the Vit D you need.  Five
minutes three times a day even just on your face and arms may be enough.

Jo
Adelle - 29 Mar 2006 05:20 GMT
>> Had my 6 month check. Since I haven't been doing as well lately, doc
>> decided to do some blood work before changing my meds. He wondered
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> It doesn't take a lot of sunlight to give you the Vit D you need.  Five
> minutes three times a day even just on your face and arms may be enough.

Thanks to all who answered!

Joan, Ann - do you need an rx for such high doses of vit D?

Well, I'll bet this has been 'building' awhile now. When I was on doxy, I
got terrible rashes from sun exposure, so I either stayed in or wore SPF 45.
I was on doxy for over two years.

Then I switched to the Plaquenil and felt OK for the summer, but stayed
indoors when it was hot/humid (fairly often) because my asthma acted up, so
I didn't build up all that much over the summer (and still wore sunscreen a
good portion of the time).

By the time fall was really underway and it got cold, I entered hibernation
mode. And the 'discomfort' got incrementally worse. Now I understand why.

The doc didn't call back today, though.

Adelle
Joan Carter - 29 Mar 2006 05:54 GMT
>Joan, Ann - do you need an rx for such high doses of vit D?

It's OTC here in Canada. But there can be side effects to any vitamin, so as
long as you check with a doctor I'm happy.
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Joan
Ann - 29 Mar 2006 16:26 GMT
Adelle I have an rx for the Vit D.  I'm supposed to be on it short-term.
She said probably a couple of months.  Will have another blood test in
four weeks.

Ann
Sunny52 - 29 Mar 2006 14:12 GMT
Adelle,  I hope the doctor is able to work this out and you are feeling
better soon.

Yes, it has been really cold in NE this winter.  Not as much snow as
last year, but lots of ice and cold weather.

Bonnie
Alix M. Hall - 29 Mar 2006 20:40 GMT
hope this new regime helps--{{{{Adelle}}}}}

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Navy1 - 29 Mar 2006 21:18 GMT
I read somewhere that a small amount of vitamin D must be gotten from
the sun.  Otherwise, all the pill type doesn't work.  Does anybody
have any further information on this?

Loujean
Squirrely - 30 Mar 2006 06:59 GMT
I hope you will do better with the Vit D and it helps you out alot. Have
been thinking of you alot Adelle.

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Squirrely Jo

> Had my 6 month check. Since I haven't been doing as well lately, doc
> decided to do some blood work before changing my meds. He wondered whether
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> high in D, so am not sure what's up. I do stay inside a lot - it's damned
> cold here in New England in the winter!!!!

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