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d'huit - 28 Mar 2006 09:20 GMT
soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
(started last week and naturally, it disappeared just before i was going to
show my ot the next day), at the top of the damage and my injured thumb
joint is appearing to reshape itself---feels too hard to be swelling.  i
don't think the back of my hand one is going to go away now, though.  when i
first saw that one, i thought, "oho!  that might be where one of those
little dickens (bone fragments) got to!"  then, reality set in and i
realized that all the xrays and mri's, taken every pre and post-op appmt.,
would have spotted it before i did.   think arthur is messin' with my head,
as well as my bod? (or is that "messing with my bod" part just wishful
thinking?--oh, i forgot.  arthur isn't a person.)

sometimes, it seems like these joint things/bulges happen almost over-night,
though they might hurt for weeks beforehand.  is that my imagination?---i do
have an over-active one of those, too.<g>

i gotta admit it---i'm kinda tired of hurtin'.  tarred, i say.  "oh, baby,
i'm soooo tarred."

the good news is that i met all of my ot's short term goals for this wrist
and thumb.  well, except for just one itty bitty rom thang.  tarred o' that
ol' thang, too.  do i sound depressed?LOL--i'm thinking . . .  i feel like
it's been a long haul (is that my imagination, too?).  but it tain't over
until my surgeon says 'tis over, and he said it would take a year and maybe
one more teeny weeny surgery to release scar tissue.  he doesn't have to be
right, right?  i mean, he's allowed to be wrong, right?  i can insist that
he be wrong, right?

i'm also getting purdy tarred of falling.  i fell with the cast on, on
rain-wet concrete--thank god for the cast taking the brunt of that impact.
i fell on the 8th, mostly landed on my right knee, but almost landed
open-palmed again (the same way i landed when i broke this same sucker to
smithereens).  luckily, the floor was slippery/soapy enough that my injured
hand slid outwards, leaving my knee to catch the brunt of it..  and then
there was kitty-football (an inadvertant punting session) tonight.  i was
just thinking . . ."calamity jane" was my favorite movie when i was 6 years
old--could that have left a lasting impression on me?  nahhh . . . it would
have had to have been called, "klutzy jane".  but the good news is, no
damage.  i bet i average a fall a month.  i need bubblewrap clothing.

i'm rambling, aren't i?  sorry.  i meant to only ask if anybody has arthur
flares after surgeries.

kate
GARY Z - 28 Mar 2006 12:24 GMT
Ahhh Kate,
I know how you feel about being "tarred" of all this.
All of my surgeries have been a result of arthur 'cept hernias and a bone
cyst in my wrist.
I can see at least 3 more surgeries I'll need because of arthur coming in
the future. "Tarred" an appropriate word.
GaryZ

> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 04:39 GMT
oh, ow, gary.  and here i was whining about just one more and a teeny one at
that!  yep, tarred.  arthur sure sticks.
kate
Ahhh Kate,
I know how you feel about being "tarred" of all this.
All of my surgeries have been a result of arthur 'cept hernias and a bone
cyst in my wrist.
I can see at least 3 more surgeries I'll need because of arthur coming in
the future. "Tarred" an appropriate word.
GaryZ

> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
~kenny - 29 Mar 2006 22:35 GMT
So sorry Kate your having such a rough time. I'm looking at more
surgeries in the near future and it's never good and worst for many of
us. Take care and please get better.

~Kenny

>Ahhh Kate,
>I know how you feel about being "tarred" of all this.
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>> kate
d'huit - 31 Mar 2006 07:00 GMT
So sorry Kate your having such a rough time. I'm looking at more
surgeries in the near future and it's never good and worst for many of
us. Take care and please get better.

~Kenny

thank you, kenny.  i am.  i'm getting better, step by step.<smile>  wishing
you wonderful outcomes in your upcoming surgeries, guy!

kate

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:24:06 GMT, "GARY Z" <dadandone@verizon.net>
wrote:

>Ahhh Kate,
>I know how you feel about being "tarred" of all this.
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>>
>> kate
Diane - 28 Mar 2006 16:57 GMT
oh, kate, this hand/wrist thing's gone on sooooo long and you've been
soooo patient with it. no wonder you're tarred. i'm tarred for you. and
yes, those little bump things seem to pop up over night, however then
they stick around for years, maybe forever. all my fingers got 'em, at
least one each. and they're mighty purty, i tell ya.

please don't fall anymore. it gits dangerous.

off to starbucks,

diane
d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 08:14 GMT
so, diane, did you have triple grande?<smile>

i dunno about how patient i've been, cuz i didn't feel that way about it on
the inside.  i wish i could say and believe that i won't fall anymore.  i've
been doing this gladys goodfairy flying act, with regularity, since i was in
my mid-20s (i've always thought it had something to do with the way they put
my leg back together kinda weird).   i guess i've just been lucky that i've
only broken myself 3 times in all those years.  it's only been lately,
though, that it actually makes me angry when i hit the ground or floor---a
distinct personality change there.  guess my patience with it has finally
worn out, after all these years.LOL  am i slow or what?!LOL

kate

oh, kate, this hand/wrist thing's gone on sooooo long and you've been
soooo patient with it. no wonder you're tarred. i'm tarred for you. and
yes, those little bump things seem to pop up over night, however then
they stick around for years, maybe forever. all my fingers got 'em, at
least one each. and they're mighty purty, i tell ya.

please don't fall anymore. it gits dangerous.

off to starbucks,

diane
Harvey R. Stone - 29 Mar 2006 15:23 GMT
> so, diane, did you have triple grande?<smile>
>
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>
> kate

No,,, kind of normal I would say.   I can surely understand your anger about
falling but sooo many of us are in the same boat with you.   My balance is
no where near what it used to be.   If you could of seen what I went through
on the roof  a few days ago because of a fear of falling and not trusting my
balance.   We,,, you and I are getting older and we have to adjust to what
we can and can not do anymore.   I am mainly talking to myself but in your
case,,,, bring up this with your family doctor and see if your ears are OK.
I agree with johnie,,,, way too much falling.
Harv
Navy1 - 29 Mar 2006 21:25 GMT
>> so, diane, did you have triple grande?<smile>
>>
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>I agree with johnie,,,, way too much falling.
>Harv

I think I read somewhere that the reason older folk (notice the
euphemism!) fall more is because the inner ear parts get stiffer and
can't react as quickly to a change in position to tell us to
straighten up!

Loujean
d'huit - 31 Mar 2006 07:13 GMT
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:23:25 GMT, "Harvey R. Stone" <none@nobody.net>
wrote:

>> so, diane, did you have triple grande?<smile>
>>
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>I agree with johnie,,,, way too much falling.
>Harv

I think I read somewhere that the reason older folk (notice the
euphemism!) fall more is because the inner ear parts get stiffer and
can't react as quickly to a change in position to tell us to
straighten up!

Loujean

yeah, i heard that too.  i think it is the stirup that becomes stenosed (is
that a word?LOL)

kate
Navy1 - 31 Mar 2006 22:58 GMT
>On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:23:25 GMT, "Harvey R. Stone" <none@nobody.net>
>wrote:
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>
>kate

Why not?  I understand the latest version of a dictionary is written
by a group that reads all the information available to find all the
new words people have created.  Who knows?  Maybe yours will be in the
next one!  LOL

Loujean
johnie - 29 Mar 2006 22:57 GMT
> If you could of seen what I went through
> on the roof  a few days ago because of a fear of falling and not trusting my
> balance.

I hear you Harv. It is frustrating. I used to love working off the
ground but I felt the same way the last time I was on my roof. Not much
roof work left for me. Staying upright is enough challenge these days.
johnie
d'huit - 31 Mar 2006 07:12 GMT
> so, diane, did you have triple grande?<smile>
>
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>
> kate

No,,, kind of normal I would say.   I can surely understand your anger about
falling but sooo many of us are in the same boat with you.   My balance is
no where near what it used to be.   If you could of seen what I went through
on the roof  a few days ago because of a fear of falling and not trusting my
balance.   We,,, you and I are getting older and we have to adjust to what
we can and can not do anymore.   I am mainly talking to myself but in your
case,,,, bring up this with your family doctor and see if your ears are OK.
I agree with johnie,,,, way too much falling.
Harv

ohhh, i hear you, harv.  gone are my days of getting up on the roof with
butch.  (back then, i thought it was fun nailing down rows of roof
shingles.LOL)   heck, now i won't climb a ladder more than two or three
rungs.LOL  ohhh, to be 22 again, with that same agility, flexibility and
balance!  ears, huh?  i guess there might be a little stenosis and i did
rupture an eardrum, quite awhile back.  btw, i agree with johnie too . .
."way too much falling".<smile>  i guess i just accepted all the falling as
the way life had changed for me, these past 35 years.

kate
Harvey R. Stone - 31 Mar 2006 13:33 GMT
> ohhh, i hear you, harv.  gone are my days of getting up on the roof with
> butch.  (back then, i thought it was fun nailing down rows of roof
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>
> kate

Aaah eardrum,,,, you could still have some pressure in there or a raise in
blood pressure or lower in blood pressure can cause a balance problem.
Been there done that as they say.  Good luck with it.
Harv
Bud - 28 Mar 2006 17:30 GMT
> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?  

Damn straight! I love you, Kate. ;-)
d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 08:16 GMT
> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?

Damn straight! I love you, Kate. ;-)

whew!  not my imagination.  ummmm . . . does that last part have something
to do with your e-addy?<g>

kate
Jo Firey - 28 Mar 2006 18:45 GMT
I don't have Arthur problems after surgery, mostly cause I end up with
prednisone and bed rest and blood thinners.  My joints like all that.

Now as for the falling.  Repeat after me.  "Tuck and Roll"

Tell yourself this over and over.  Do not, repeat do no stick your hand out
to ward off a fall.  It doesn't work well for a healthy person.  Once you
know you're gonna go, do not fight a fall.  Try to relax.  That's why drunks
are not often injured in accidents.  Try to land on your side.  The upper
arm and thigh can take the punishment far better than the rest of your body.

Do like the athletes.  Visualize a safe fall so when it happens you will do
it as safely as possible.

Now after saying all that, I'll likely break something next time I go down.

But I have a very good track record for falling with only a few bruises.
And that's pretty good for someone my size.

Jo

> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 08:28 GMT
I don't have Arthur problems after surgery, mostly cause I end up with
prednisone and bed rest and blood thinners.  My joints like all that.

Now as for the falling.  Repeat after me.  "Tuck and Roll"

Tell yourself this over and over.  Do not, repeat do no stick your hand out
to ward off a fall.  It doesn't work well for a healthy person.  Once you
know you're gonna go, do not fight a fall.  Try to relax.  That's why drunks
are not often injured in accidents.  Try to land on your side.  The upper
arm and thigh can take the punishment far better than the rest of your body.

Do like the athletes.  Visualize a safe fall so when it happens you will do
it as safely as possible.

Now after saying all that, I'll likely break something next time I go down.

But I have a very good track record for falling with only a few bruises.
And that's pretty good for someone my size.

Jo

"tuck and roll".  of course!  i know i can do the drunk part, if i have
to--might even enjoy that.<winkies>  it's been a long time since i've
practiced prat-falls for high school drama class--have forgotten most of
that training.  maybe i should take a martial arts class and learn how to
fall correctly.  i seem to recall my son learning how to fall in his karate
classes.  wonder what i'd look like in a gi?(LOL---a belted sack of flour.)
hmmmm . . . maybe a tempurpedic mattress is good for something else, besides
sleeping.  no, i wasn't thinking of making a suit out of it-- i meant
practicing relaxing and falling on it.<g>

don't you dare not take your own advice!  we don't want to have our jo
broken!  you just keep on keeping your track record unblemished!  ok?

kate

> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
Navy1 - 29 Mar 2006 21:21 GMT
Most definitely.
Loujean

>I don't have Arthur problems after surgery, mostly cause I end up with
>prednisone and bed rest and blood thinners.  My joints like all that.
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>>
>> kate
Cindy - 28 Mar 2006 21:09 GMT
((((((Kate)))))))
Cindy
> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 08:28 GMT
thanks, cindy.

kate
((((((Kate)))))))
Cindy
> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
Alix M. Hall - 28 Mar 2006 22:35 GMT
run screaming from surgery if at all possible----and am also weary as in
tarred of falling.....maybe we should develop the bubble wrap suit with
plenty of fashion and flair---and.....can we do it in purple--so I can wear
it with my red hat to red hat teas????

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Love,
        Alix

Always remember, a cat looks down on man, a dog looks up to man,
but a pig will look  man right in the eye and see his equal".
- Winston Churchill

d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 08:41 GMT
run screaming from surgery if at all possible----and am also weary as in
tarred of falling.....maybe we should develop the bubble wrap suit with
plenty of fashion and flair---and.....can we do it in purple--so I can wear
it with my red hat to red hat teas????

Signature

Love,
        Alix

"tarred of falling" sounds like it should be somewhere in the lyric of
showboat's  "old man river", doesn't it?  "i gets weary and tarred of
falling . . . but that ol' man river just keeps on rolling along."  or
somthing like that.

i was thinking about this, earlier---but i thought a plastic suit would get
awfully uncomfortable in the summertime.  they do make opaque purple
bubblewrap, though.  however, i think a red bubblewrap hat might be
over-the-top, just a tad.  doncha think?<g>  glad you already have a red
hat, in that regard.  thanx for the giggle.

kate

Always remember, a cat looks down on man, a dog looks up to man,
but a pig will look  man right in the eye and see his equal".
- Winston Churchill

Navy1 - 29 Mar 2006 21:24 GMT
>run screaming from surgery if at all possible----and am also weary as in
>tarred of falling.....maybe we should develop the bubble wrap suit with
>plenty of fashion and flair---and.....can we do it in purple--so I can wear
>it with my red hat to red hat teas????

Well, if it came with a built in air conditioner, it would be a good
idea - I'll take one in heavenly blue.  LOL

Loujean
Jo Firey - 29 Mar 2006 21:27 GMT
>>run screaming from surgery if at all possible----and am also weary as in
>>tarred of falling.....maybe we should develop the bubble wrap suit with
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>
> Loujean

Last night I dreamed that I had a pretty pink bubble wrap blanket to hide
under from the monster.  (Kayla the BC pup is now fine months old)

Maybe we are on to something.

Jo
d'huit - 31 Mar 2006 07:16 GMT
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:41:47 -0800, "d'huit"
> <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
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>
> Loujean

Last night I dreamed that I had a pretty pink bubble wrap blanket to hide
under from the monster.  (Kayla the BC pup is now fine months old)

Maybe we are on to something.

Jo

LOL!  reminds me of the movie "monsters inc."  fuzzy/cuddly monster.LOL

kate
Navy1 - 31 Mar 2006 22:58 GMT
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:41:47 -0800, "d'huit"
>> <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
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>
>kate

I have got to see that one.  Is it in the library?

Loujean
d'huit - 02 Apr 2006 06:22 GMT
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:16:12 -0800, "d'huit"
<threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:

>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:41:47 -0800, "d'huit"
>> <threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>kate

I have got to see that one.  Is it in the library?

Loujean

no, it isn't.  at least, not yet.<smile>

kate
Gwen Love - 29 Mar 2006 02:17 GMT
Yes, Kate, it has been a long time.  And though you feel like it will never
end, eventually it will!  You'd better get a wheel chair and just tool
around in it so you won't fall any more (you wouldn't fall out of it, would
you?)  I don't remember my OA being any worse after surgery, but at this
age, I'm not remembering too much too well.  And I have a very sore spot on
my right cheek near the nose that I got when I hooked my foot on a flower
stand on the patio and (didn't fall thank goodness) landed on the back wall
with my face hitting the side of the window frame.  I do hope and pray you
will soon be back to whatever is normal for you.
Gwen

> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 09:04 GMT
Yes, Kate, it has been a long time.  And though you feel like it will never
end, eventually it will!  You'd better get a wheel chair and just tool
around in it so you won't fall any more (you wouldn't fall out of it, would
you?)  I don't remember my OA being any worse after surgery, but at this
age, I'm not remembering too much too well.  And I have a very sore spot on
my right cheek near the nose that I got when I hooked my foot on a flower
stand on the patio and (didn't fall thank goodness) landed on the back wall
with my face hitting the side of the window frame.  I do hope and pray you
will soon be back to whatever is normal for you.
Gwen

hex-it, hex-it!  quick!  i don't want to be back in a wheelchair, no how.
i'm almost positive the falling has something to do with the way my balance
was screwed up with wonky leg repairs.  i kinda waddle into walls and
doorjambs, too.  it's almost like my mind can't figure out where the outside
of my body ends, when that happens--if that makes any sense.

sometimes forgetfulness can be a blessing, i think.  let's just say the oa
flare doesn't happen to you after surgery.  i'd be happy with that, for you.

hey, now!  i'm the one with the splayed foot that heads in a direction i'm
not facing.  what are you doing hooking yours on flower stands?!  and you
are not supposed to be using your face to check out the solidness of window
frames, either.  thank goodness you didn't test the window glass with it!!!!
that gives me the willies, just thinking how close you must have come to
doing that!  scary, sweetie!  i'm sorry your hurt your cheek, hon.  hope it
feels better soon.

sigh . . . it has been a long time, according to concensus.  it's so odd how
my sense of time changed completely, three years ago.  and as for getting
back to whatever is "normal" for me.LOL!  i don't even know how to address
that.  i think "normal" for me has always been constantly changing.  soooo,
maybe what you mean is changing for the better.<smile>  thanx, sweetness.

kate

> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
> kate
johnie - 29 Mar 2006 06:23 GMT
> i gotta admit it---i'm kinda tired of hurtin'.  tarred, i say.  "oh, baby,
> i'm soooo tarred."

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kate}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
sweetie, you gotta get a handle on the falling. once a month is
worrisome. I discovered a blood pressure fluctuation was causing me to
fall a couple of years ago. It cleared up on its own and never knew
what caused it. You have had a terrible winter. Just want you to heal
up with a nice long remission.

johnie
d'huit - 29 Mar 2006 09:32 GMT
d'huit wrote:
> i gotta admit it---i'm kinda tired of hurtin'.  tarred, i say.  "oh, baby,
> i'm soooo tarred."

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{kate}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
sweetie, you gotta get a handle on the falling. once a month is
worrisome. I discovered a blood pressure fluctuation was causing me to
fall a couple of years ago. It cleared up on its own and never knew
what caused it. You have had a terrible winter. Just want you to heal
up with a nice long remission.

johnie

y'know, johnie---i could honestly feel that nice warm, long hug.  thank you,
guy.

yeah, i do need to get a handle on the falling.  as i mentioned earlier,
i've been doing this falling routine since the early 1970s.  breaking
something (3 separate times) in a fall once in awhile---1977, 1983, 2005
(w0w, i went 20 years without a fall-facture.  now, that's
progress!<smile>).  i can't help wondering if it is my mind not getting the
body vs. space relationship, or if it is my wonky leg.  it usually has
something to do with my left foot (slipping, tripping or twisting), though.
butch used to think i didn't look down, but i know that wasn't and isn't the
case.  and it is usually when my energy level is high and i'm moving right
along.  maybe there's an occassional disconnect between my high energy/mind
versus my body limitations that aren't being paid attention to--- like an
age difference that hasn't been settled?LOL  (that's a bit questionable, cuz
i broke my wrist right after becoming aware that my foot was twisting and
trying to avoid spraining or breaking that ankle.)   there's something
vaguely in that statement about age difference that is calling my attention
to it.  gotta think about that.  it feels like if i could just pin that
illusive-something down, i'd get a handle on the falling.

boy, i'm glad your falling spell cleared up for you, guy.  it's not fun
falling and getting hurt.  i'm with you---i'd like another 20 years with no
broken bones for a remission.<greedy grin>

kate
johnie - 29 Mar 2006 22:42 GMT
> y'know, johnie---i could honestly feel that nice warm, long hug.  thank you,
> guy.

glad it made it thru. this wireless tech is remarkable huh?...>g<

> maybe there's an occassional disconnect between my high energy/mind
> versus my body limitations that aren't being paid attention to--- like an
> age difference that hasn't been settled?

I think you have something here. There is definitely a learning curve
that is difficult at best involving our beat up bodies and our (i still
think like a teenager brains). It requires constant effort on my part
to find a balance that works. I think this happens to everyone as we
age. It is just more pronounced  for us gimps. I know that at least
once a day I have to reel myself in as I will attempt to move my body
in a way it no longer moves in. Pisses me off but I laugh it off (most
of the time). Occasionally I do let it depress me but thats not healthy
cause we gotta do what we can and be grateful were still standing. Im
not sure that we ever get complete control over this one as it is quite
fluid.
My last fall 18 months ago has kept me vigilant. I was lucky to only
end up with broken ribs and a dislocated finger. My little finger
(artificial joint) was dangling at 90degrees to the side.'ouch'
The scary part was I hit the dirt head first two inches from a really
nasty, big rock. I no longer daydream while I stroll. I also use my
cane as it helps me stay focused. Oh the adventure of being a gimp.>g<

I didnt mean to ramble on. I really just wanted to say I think you must
be feeling a bit better as you are able to post regularly again. I have
missed your point of view immensely and am glad your back.

More of them big desert hugs.

johnie
d'huit - 31 Mar 2006 08:16 GMT
d'huit wrote:
> y'know, johnie---i could honestly feel that nice warm, long hug.  thank
> you,
> guy.

glad it made it thru. this wireless tech is remarkable huh?...>g<

****<smile>

> maybe there's an occassional disconnect between my high energy/mind
> versus my body limitations that aren't being paid attention to--- like an
> age difference that hasn't been settled?

I think you have something here. There is definitely a learning curve
that is difficult at best involving our beat up bodies and our (i still
think like a teenager brains). It requires constant effort on my part
to find a balance that works. I think this happens to everyone as we
age. It is just more pronounced  for us gimps. I know that at least
once a day I have to reel myself in as I will attempt to move my body
in a way it no longer moves in. Pisses me off but I laugh it off (most
of the time). Occasionally I do let it depress me but thats not healthy
cause we gotta do what we can and be grateful were still standing. Im
not sure that we ever get complete control over this one as it is quite
fluid.

****this body got beat-up 35 years ago.  you'd think i'd have mastered the
learning curve by now.  but, noooooo, not this kid.LOL  i must be slow in a
lot more ways than i thought.<g>

My last fall 18 months ago has kept me vigilant. I was lucky to only
end up with broken ribs and a dislocated finger. My little finger
(artificial joint) was dangling at 90degrees to the side.'ouch'
The scary part was I hit the dirt head first two inches from a really
nasty, big rock. I no longer daydream while I stroll. I also use my
cane as it helps me stay focused. Oh the adventure of being a gimp.>g<

***oh, ouch, ouuu . . . ow!  oh, ribs!  tough breathing.  how did they fix
your finger?  i mean, with its artificial joint, and all?  i used to be
terrified, for 6 years, that i'd fall and bend the 36mm rod inside my femur.
(my ortho told me if i did bend it, my leg would possibly have to be
amputated.)  yeah, that rock was waaaay scary!

I didnt mean to ramble on. I really just wanted to say I think you must
be feeling a bit better as you are able to post regularly again. I have
missed your point of view immensely and am glad your back.

****thanks, sweetie.  actually, i am and it's getting easier to type with
both hands now.<smile>  but all 3 of that left thumb's joints are still a
bother.  so, it's right thumb for the spacebar only.  and the wrist sure
gets stiff.

More of them big desert hugs.

****thanks, guy.  hugs back atcha!

kate

johnie
Navy1 - 29 Mar 2006 21:20 GMT
Hey, kate, what did we tell you about trying to go on all fours????
Sorry to hear there are complications.  I was just wondering if the
surgeon is fat?  (You know, it ain't over until the fat lady sings!)?

Loujean

>soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
>irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>kate
d'huit - 31 Mar 2006 08:18 GMT
Hey, kate, what did we tell you about trying to go on all fours????
Sorry to hear there are complications.  I was just wondering if the
surgeon is fat?  (You know, it ain't over until the fat lady sings!)?

Loujean

LOL!  my surgeon's a guy.  i think arthur got jealous ;-)

kate

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:20:20 -0800, "d'huit"
<threecedars1@comcast2.net> wrote:

>soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
>irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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>
>kate
Navy1 - 31 Mar 2006 23:00 GMT
te:

>Hey, kate, what did we tell you about trying to go on all fours????
>Sorry to hear there are complications.  I was just wondering if the
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>
>kate

Well, I've heard that when there aren't any women in the cast, a fat
guy can close the opera!  LOL

Loujean
d'huit - 02 Apr 2006 06:25 GMT
te:

>Hey, kate, what did we tell you about trying to go on all fours????
>Sorry to hear there are complications.  I was just wondering if the
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>
>kate

Well, I've heard that when there aren't any women in the cast, a fat
guy can close the opera!  LOL

Loujean

LOL!  i never heard that.  i thought the guys who pull down the curtain and
turn off the house lights are the guys who close the opera.;-)

kate
Nann Bell - 30 Mar 2006 03:08 GMT
(((((((((((((kate)))))))))))))))))

it has been a long haul and you have every right to be tarred of hurting,
tarred of therapy, tarred of surgery and the whole bit.  doesn't mean it's
gonna end and it doesn't mean it'll make it easier for you, but you've earned
the total right to be tarred of it all.  Also, you have total, complete
permission to exceed your surgeon's expectations!

Now then, about the falling - speaking seriously this is.  doo you do
anything exercise-wise that works on balance?  It really does help and I
speak as another who has a talent for falling.  Fortuantely, I took years of
dancing lessons growing up and have continued to have some stuff on balance
in whatever exercise I get.  Heck, just a few knee bends and toe rises (aka:
releves) and/or standing leg lifts each day can do a lot for balance and
balance can do a lot to rescue you when you start to fall.  Then there's Tai
Chi and Yoga - both also ggood for balance and not falling.

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d'huit - 01 Apr 2006 05:44 GMT
(((((((((((((kate)))))))))))))))))

it has been a long haul and you have every right to be tarred of hurting,
tarred of therapy, tarred of surgery and the whole bit.  doesn't mean it's
gonna end and it doesn't mean it'll make it easier for you, but you've
earned
the total right to be tarred of it all.  Also, you have total, complete
permission to exceed your surgeon's expectations!

****<smiling> i wanna do that.

Now then, about the falling - speaking seriously this is.  doo you do
anything exercise-wise that works on balance?  It really does help and I
speak as another who has a talent for falling.  Fortuantely, I took years of
dancing lessons growing up and have continued to have some stuff on balance
in whatever exercise I get.  Heck, just a few knee bends and toe rises (aka:
releves) and/or standing leg lifts each day can do a lot for balance and
balance can do a lot to rescue you when you start to fall.  Then there's Tai
Chi and Yoga - both also ggood for balance and not falling.

****i used to do yoga, centuries ago.  all that's left of all that wonderful
mobility is being able to touch the floor with my hand almost flat (used to
be able to reach 11 inches past my toes, walk on my knees en lotus and do
some wonderful stretches that i very much miss.), just trunk rom, if i don't
topple over.LOL  was working on tai chi with my son a few years ago, but
couldn't control my balance.  he got worried and decided i should just do
the hand movements.LOL  have only got one steady leg, hon.  the other one is
way shorter in the femur.   its foot flairs and has an arthritic knee, hip
and ankle.  i hate sounding like i'm doing "yes, but . . ."s.  make me feel
like i'm doing a "poor little me".  thank you for the ideas though.  if
enough ideas come my way, something is bound to connect with what i am able
to do.

kate
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jb - 02 Apr 2006 05:31 GMT
Now Kate you gotta take care, we want to grow old together lol. Sorry you
are still having so much trouble. I am thinking of you often and also
keeping you on my prayer list. I wish ole Arthur would find a place to shack
up and just stay there.
love and hugs
jb

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Nann Bell - 02 Apr 2006 15:11 GMT
> way shorter in the femur.   its foot flairs and has an arthritic knee, hip
> and ankle.  i hate sounding like i'm doing "yes, but . . ."s.  make me feel
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>
> kate

Ok, so not the exercise options that popped into my mind immediately.  Still,
activities specifically designed to train the muscles in balance can really
help.  And remember, this not only trains the muscles, but trains tthe mind's
proprioceptive sense as well, aiding you in recovering when you start to fall
AND in falling in ways that are less injurious.  (LOL - reminds me of how I
switched to hiking boots with MAJOR ankle support after I almost busted my
head while avoiding *another* sprained ankle during a hiking slip.)

Anyway, if falling is really that big of a problem, and I suspect you don't
want to risk your arm again!, you might ask about a PT consult specifically
to work on balance type exercises that fit with your limitations.  I would
think someone dealing with all the issues you have would benefit more than
most from something of the soort.  With so much to work around, the body just
isn't going to co-operate!

Ahhhh, perhaps you could replace all the flooring and ground around your
house with those fat pads gymnasts use for learning new tricks?

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Squirrely - 30 Mar 2006 07:11 GMT
Kate

you are still in my prayers and thoughts. What are we going to do with you.
Bubble wrap your whole house and everywhere you go. My heart goes out to you
and I feel for you big time. Please take care. Still sending healing vibes
your way.

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> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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> kate
d'huit - 02 Apr 2006 06:27 GMT
Kate

you are still in my prayers and thoughts. What are we going to do with you.
Bubble wrap your whole house and everywhere you go. My heart goes out to you
and I feel for you big time. Please take care. Still sending healing vibes
your way.

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awww, sweetie, thank you.  you have such a dear heart!  btw, guess what i
got in the mail today?<grin>  one of your very thoughtful cards!  made my
day, sweetie!  thank you for your dearness.

kate

> soooo, has anybody ever had surgery cause ol' arthur to become very
> irritated and obnoxious?   a nodule has popped out on the back of my hand
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> kate
Squirrely - 02 Apr 2006 11:00 GMT
Your welcome about the card Kate.

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Squirrely - 30 Mar 2006 07:12 GMT
Jo,

I am trying to figure out how you keep yourself from hurting  yourself. I
was going ouch when I read about tuck and roll and land on side. I could
just imagine me doing in the hip or the shoulder.

I don't know how you manage to fall and not hurt yourself.

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