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Douglas Stream - 26 Mar 2006 15:47 GMT
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY HERBS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN PAIN
MANAGEMENT FOR ARTHRITIS??
Harvey R. Stone - 26 Mar 2006 18:04 GMT
> DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY HERBS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN
> PAIN MANAGEMENT FOR ARTHRITIS??

NO,,,,,WHY SHOULD I?

Harv
urbana - 26 Mar 2006 18:56 GMT
: DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY HERBS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN PAIN
: MANAGEMENT FOR ARTHRITIS??

Yes, but you need to find what works for you, and it doesn't totally take
away
all of the pain, but helps it for me quite a bit.  Here's a good site to
help you
get started.

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/index.html

Urbana
gail - 27 Mar 2006 01:31 GMT
Yes, but it is illegal in this country and probably illegal in yours
too.
Sorry, I'm being a little silly today.

Gail
Nicole - 27 Mar 2006 12:26 GMT
please keep in mind that most pharmaceuticals are made from plant extracts
and now just copied.
also, herbs are not regulated in the US so you never know what's truly in
the bottle.  There have been many test (Prevention magazine, Dateline,
20/20) and the results are scary.
Many forms are arthritis can be life threatening so please be careful
> DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY HERBS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN
> PAIN MANAGEMENT FOR ARTHRITIS??
spodosaurus - 27 Mar 2006 15:56 GMT
> DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY HERBS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN PAIN
> MANAGEMENT FOR ARTHRITIS??

You're desperate for someone to say marijuana, right?

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Norman - 28 Mar 2006 07:59 GMT
> > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY HERBS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN PAIN
> > MANAGEMENT FOR ARTHRITIS??
>
> You're desperate for someone to say marijuana, right?

type...slow.ly...he...may...al...read.y...be...high...
d'huit - 28 Mar 2006 08:24 GMT
ROTFL!

kate
In article <4427fc95$1@quokka.wn.com.au>, spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com says...
> Douglas Stream wrote:
> > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY HERBS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE IN
> > PAIN
> > MANAGEMENT FOR ARTHRITIS??
>
> You're desperate for someone to say marijuana, right?

type...slow.ly...he...may...al...read.y...be...high...
diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 28 Mar 2006 15:39 GMT
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA me ?

By the way I.ve got a book on it.
I think it works, but you risk schizo (sp?)

Peter
spodosaurus - 28 Mar 2006 18:50 GMT
> DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA me ?
>
> By the way I.ve got a book on it.
> I think it works, but you risk schizo (sp?)
>
> Peter

Actually, the press has been confusing correlation with causation
(again) when it comes to the issue of schizophrenia and marijuana use.
The fact remains that those who are going to develop one of the forms
(there are many, another thing the press misses, among so many details)
of schizophrenia may be feeling pretty rotten for a number of years
beforehand, and will seek out intoxicants to help ease their discomfort.
Now the press loves to beat up a story where one doesn't exist,
particularly if they can conveniently omit the facts that make the story
so much less interesting such as in this case. Despite people waving
papers around saying that there is an arrow of causation in this
correlation, there just isn't, and it's unlikely to ever be
satisfactorily answered because we can't (ethically) take a lot of
twelve year olds, test to predict who will develop schizophrenia, and
then give all of them marijuana and see if it really does accelerate
symptoms in those with a predisposition to develop it. Another group in
this study would be monitored to see if those who were predicted to
develop schizophrenia turned to increased canabis use as their early
symptoms become more prevalent. I don't think watching ill youngsters
abuse drugs without intervention is going to get a whole lot of research
money. Don't believe the hype, the press gets scientific research wrong
all the time: they are usually grossly underqualified/undereducated to
understand what's going on, and they just parrot the researchers at the
press conference (and some researchers just LOVE making pointless press
conferences because they want to be more public to get more grant
money...among other sources of revenue from contentious and popular issues).

Regards,

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

diclidophora@yahoo.co.uk - 29 Mar 2006 10:31 GMT
Ari.

Interesting response. I agree with most of what you say, especially
about the press. Also, there certainly are many prima donna scientists
around who have hitched their wagon to a theory and depend on the
publicity it generates.

One thought that comes to mind. If schizophrenia develops mainly in
youth (does it?), then old people who have never indulged should be
realtively safe. What do you think ?
I think that there was a recent UK trial with the medicinal
possibilities of smoking marijuana, but it was abandoned because
smoking was in itself dangerous.

Best wishes

Peter

> > DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA me ?
> >
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> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/
spodosaurus - 29 Mar 2006 15:53 GMT
> Ari.
>
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> One thought that comes to mind. If schizophrenia develops mainly in
> youth (does it?),

typical age of onset is late teens/early twenties

> then old people who have never indulged should be
> realtively safe. What do you think ?

I'd need to confirm that there isn't a late onset form of schizophrenia
like there is with bipolar disorder.

> I think that there was a recent UK trial with the medicinal
> possibilities of smoking marijuana, but it was abandoned because
> smoking was in itself dangerous.

Ethics committees are still getting around the quantity vs quality of
life problem.

> Best wishes
>
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>>
>>Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

 
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