It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
joint.
Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall. He mumbled something
about having to use a tourniquet.
Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
Mxsmanic - 13 Feb 2006 14:01 GMT
> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
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> Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall. He mumbled something
> about having to use a tourniquet.
Ask the anesthesiologist instead.
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
I don't know that any type of anesthesia is mandated for most
procedures. It's a choice of the anesthesiologist in cooperation with
the surgeon or surgical team and (sometimes) the patient.

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Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 13 Feb 2006 17:10 GMT
because it hurts??
had one last year...excellent anesthesia guy...was under for less than an
hour..and woke up instantly once the med was stopped...best general
anesthesia experience I have ever had..and have had many
no post op nausea...they filled the joint with lidocaine,,so post op pain
was minimal for the first 12 hours as well...
having seen arthroscopies on the health channel...ain't no way anyone would
stick that scope into my knee if I was awake...
> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
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> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
Howard McCollister - 13 Feb 2006 17:29 GMT
> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
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>
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
A simple arthroscopic meniscectomy is a short case, and having good
relaxation is important. Spinal or epidural can be used, but really, that's
more complicated and the PACU recovery is much slower. A femoral-sciatic
block can be used, but is a little tricky, and if it doesn't work then you
end up with general anesthesia anyway. Local anesthetic can also be used,
but the same thing applies. Anything that doesn't uniformly allow complete
patient cooperation and muscle relaxation makes the operation more difficult
and take longer. Bottom line, that operation under local or regional
anesthesia is no safer, no cheaper, and recovery is not uniformly quicker.
With general anesthesia, the hassles to the patient and to the surgeon are
less and patient acceptance is better.
HMc
Adelle - 13 Feb 2006 19:57 GMT
>> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
>> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
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> HMc
And according to two knee specialists I've seen - the outcome is better. To
maneuver around the joint with the scopes and miniaturized instruments is
pretty tricky. I've been told it's easier to reach things when the joint is
fully relaxed. Spinal anesthesia will do the same thing. But most others
still allow for the patient's resistance and anticipation to maintain some
level of tension in the joint.
Adelle
Newsgroup Spambuster - 14 Feb 2006 01:21 GMT
Hmmmm................I wonder if this practice of general anesththesia
for arthroscopic procedures is a regional thing?
This is not at all the general practice here in this area! Most
arthroscopic surgeries, especially of the knee, are usually done under
spinal anesthesia with a mild sedative given as well in the IV. Have
never heard of anyone really having any trouble with this method and
recovery times seem to be just as quick. In fact, I have had 3
arthroscopic surgeries done between both of my knees and I do much much
better not having to come out of general anesthesia. Much quicker, no
nausea, and none of that drugged up feeling for a couple of days. It
is pretty rare in this area to find a doctor willing to take the risk of
general anesthesia for what is considered a relatively minor procedure.
Unless the patient is just too freaked out and won't be able to handle
lying still, general anesthesia is just not used. Most patients do
just fine with the sedative and the spinal anesthesia.
Do you mind if I ask where you live? What state or part of the
country?
Donna G
Adelle - 15 Feb 2006 02:21 GMT
> Hmmmm................I wonder if this practice of general anesththesia
> for arthroscopic procedures is a regional thing?
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> Donna G
Massachusetts, though I had my knee surgery at Johns Hopkins in Maryland.
But my wrist surgeon up here mentioned that 'unlike knee surgery, where the
joint
has to be completely tension free, the wrist can be done [arthroscopically]
with a local,' if I wanted.
Adelle
Nann Bell - 14 Feb 2006 05:10 GMT
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
i second the idea of asking the anesthesiologist.
i know there can be underlying reasons. they did general for my thumb
synovectomy, rather to my surprise. surgeon said the thumb is really hard to
numb up via other methods for some reason. bummer though, i hate that
anesthesia hangover that follows general. (ya know, i never planned to be
comparing my experiences under anesthesia this way before i even hit 50!)

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Carol - 14 Feb 2006 23:56 GMT
I recently had this procedure on my left knee. The surgeon wanted general
anesthesia, but I didn't want it! I told him that about a year earlier I had
experienced trauma surgery with nerve blocks because the doctors had a lot
of trouble intubating me.
The day of my knee surgery, my surgeon and my anesthesiologist came and
talked to me about my history and did a physical exam. The consulted and
agreed to not intubate me. They did the surgery with iv drugs - versed and
some other stuff - with no problem. The surgeon said he preferred general
because of the total relaxation - it made it easier for him to move my leg
around as needed.
> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
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>
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
Howard McCollister - 15 Feb 2006 00:19 GMT
>I recently had this procedure on my left knee. The surgeon wanted general
>anesthesia, but I didn't want it! I told him that about a year earlier I
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> because of the total relaxation - it made it easier for him to move my leg
> around as needed.
It sounds like you HAD general anesthesia, no doubt done with some
auxilliary method of airway protection, probably an LMA.
HMc
Carol - 15 Feb 2006 23:54 GMT
Nope - nothing in my mouth or throat. Just IV sedation. I've had similar
sedation for oral surgery.
>>I recently had this procedure on my left knee. The surgeon wanted general
>>anesthesia, but I didn't want it! I told him that about a year earlier I
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> HMc
sheila voss - 15 Feb 2006 03:12 GMT
> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
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> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
i've had three arthocopic surgeries on both knees and all were done via
local with mild iv sedation. i was awake throught all three surgeries.
my surgen much prefers to use a local, as he feels it is much safer.
i live in nothern califorina, by the way.