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Songbird - 14 Jun 2004 16:07 GMT
OK, The Big Day is looming ... we move Mom and Dad closer to me this Friday.
I went up this weekend to help pack, and Mom's confusion when things are
moved around is becoming evident. (She was cleaning out the pantry, and I
moved the trash can next to her to faciliate discards. No matter how many
times I said "Mom, here's the trash can," she walked across the room to
where it usually sits and piled things to be discarded on the countertop.)

I know the move will be a big disorientation, but better now than later and
she cannot be adequately cared for where she is. I have done what I can --
selected very simple to operate appliances, for example, but the kitchen
(and the rest of the house) is much smaller so I cannot duplicate her
current layout.

Any suggestions on how to acclimate her? She will be there on Friday when we
load up, but she and Dad will stay in a hotel up there until Monday for her
post-op cardiologist appoitnment. So we will unload and set up the beds,
etc. down here before she arrives. It's hard to balance between minimizing
confusion of boxes and forcing my dad to do as much as he can in the move.
(He is trying to basically slough everything off on me, and I am trying hard
not to set that pattern in motion.)

Songbird
Mare - 14 Jun 2004 17:10 GMT
Hi,
I think it's just going to take time and then more time and then
some more. I don't know if you want to hear this but I also think
you should do as much as possible to get things set up for your
Dad so he can concentrate on keeping your Mom calm and grounded
during the upheaval. He will be the only familiar thing in her
life for awhile and needs to be available to her. Didn't you also
say you were concerned about his health? That might be why he is
willing to hand over things to you, he can still recognize the
need or he's not telling you how hard it is on him to care for
your Mom. So many have such problems getting their parents to
accept help you might want to take advantage of this til you can
really see how he is doing. JMO.

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> OK, The Big Day is looming ... we move Mom and Dad closer to me this Friday.
> I went up this weekend to help pack, and Mom's confusion when things are
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> Songbird
turkey in the straw - 16 Jun 2004 04:51 GMT
Songbird,that sounds like something i would do,in fact i have.LOL

we move Mom and Dad closer to me this Friday. I went up this weekend to
help pack, and Mom's confusion when things are moved around is becoming
evident. (She was cleaning out the pantry, and I moved the trash can
next to her to faciliate discards. No matter how many times I said "Mom,
here's the trash can," she walked across the room to where it usually
sits and piled things to be discarded on the countertop.)

If I call you a fool,
Doesn't mean your a fool
It Only means
I'm a person with a need to Judge!
Evelyn Ruut - 14 Jun 2004 18:13 GMT
> OK, The Big Day is looming ... we move Mom and Dad closer to me this Friday.
> I went up this weekend to help pack, and Mom's confusion when things are
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>
> Songbird

Hi Songbird,

I moved here just 3 1/2 years ago and my husband was a real rock through it
all, (fortunately he's in great health) and he did all the hard stuff, and
it was STILL torture.

I can imagine it must be very hard for your dad and completely a mystery to
your mom.

When we moved Ida, we did almost ALL of it ourselves.   We took her here
with us, then went back on day trips to resolve her house and all her
possessions.   We hired neighborhood people to help us pack certain items
and a service to haul away the trash, and it was still a daunting task.

Can you possibly get the moving company to spare a couple of helpers for
you?

I know how you feel inside, since this is not your stuff and not your move,
but ultimately it all falls upon you.    You are going to have to do all the
thinking on this, and if you need help, by all means hire some.  It is well
worth the money, no matter how much it costs.

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Evelyn

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Dennis P. Harris - 15 Jun 2004 03:50 GMT
> (She was cleaning out the pantry, and I
> moved the trash can next to her to faciliate discards. No matter how many
> times I said "Mom, here's the trash can," she walked across the room to
> where it usually sits and piled things to be discarded on the countertop.)

The first thing to go is the ability to remember NEW things, like
the new location for the garbage can.
Dennis P. Harris - 15 Jun 2004 03:52 GMT
> (He is trying to basically slough everything off on me, and I am trying hard
> not to set that pattern in motion.)

on the other hand, he is not a physically robust as you, and you
hinted that he might be having some memory problems, too.  if you
need help, and there are no other relatives to help, can you
either inveigle some friends or hire some temp help?
Songbird - 15 Jun 2004 14:08 GMT
> > (He is trying to basically slough everything off on me, and I am trying hard
> > not to set that pattern in motion.)
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> need help, and there are no other relatives to help, can you
> either inveigle some friends or hire some temp help?

As far as the physical aspects of the move, I have taken full
responsibility. There are eight friends and relatives converging for two
days, all from at least four hours away (so they are all spending the
intervening night at my house), to accomplish the loading, transport, and
unloading. I am handling the closing on the new house, arranging for
appliances, getting blinds hung (new house -- no privacy), having the
utilities hooked up, opening the bank account, etc. I will stock the
refrigerator and pantry, have the beds set up, towels in the bathrooms,
shower curtains and rods installed.

What I am talking about trying to get him to take "responsibility" for is
unpacking personal belongings and deciding where he would like them. A
friend is coming in to hang all their 60+ pictures, but I have asked Mom and
Dad to decide where they want their most treasured ones to go. Another
example: He is adamant about using DishTV rather than cable, which was
unreliable in the rural area he lived in but here is a cheaper alternative.
OK, fine, let him have control where he can. He had already called DishTV to
find out about how he can transfer his service and just needed to call and
give them the date. I asked him to make that call, since I know nothing
about DishTV and he had already navigated the trickier part with them.

Whenever I tell him something of any importance, he says "Let me put your
mother on and repeat that to her, because she doesn't listen to me." What he
means is she doesn't remember -- he has not grasped that she can forget
anything anyone tells her, with no rhyme or reason. He still takes it as a
personal affront. (he has also decided she must have a hearing problem --
but I think he's the one with that issue! lol)

I have got to do some FAST Alzheimer's education on him. Although he is the
first to say "I think your mother has Alzheimer's," he is in denial about
what that MEANS. I am hoping the new doc she sees on the 5th will cooperate
in getting a diagnosis and that will help all of us face the future with
facts in hand.

Songbird
Dennis P. Harris - 16 Jun 2004 04:06 GMT
> I have got to do some FAST Alzheimer's education on him. Although he is the
> first to say "I think your mother has Alzheimer's," he is in denial about
> what that MEANS. I am hoping the new doc she sees on the 5th will cooperate
> in getting a diagnosis and that will help all of us face the future with
> facts in hand.

get him a copy of the 36 hour day.  when you give it to him, tell
him it's a manual for the rest of life with your mother.
Mare - 16 Jun 2004 16:02 GMT
Hi Songbird,
Sounds like your Dad is pretty deep in denial. I can't say I
blame him but you are right he does need to "get it" soon.
Hopefully a diagnosis will help and maybe some support meetings
for him to talk to other spouses. No matter what we will always
be "children" and I think that colors the info we share or try to
get our parents to accept.
Remember to take a few moments for yourself every day and
remember to breathe. I always forget then when I'm stressed out.
Good luck on the move and getting them settled.
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> > > (He is trying to basically slough everything off on me, and I am trying
> hard
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>
> Songbird
Jo Ann Malina - 18 Jun 2004 09:02 GMT
Songbird <song2871@yahoo.com> is alleged to have said:
> As far as the physical aspects of the move, I have taken full
> responsibility. There are eight friends and relatives converging for two
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> refrigerator and pantry, have the beds set up, towels in the bathrooms,
> shower curtains and rods installed.

You sound very well organized.

> What I am talking about trying to get him to take "responsibility" for is
> unpacking personal belongings and deciding where he would like them. A
> friend is coming in to hang all their 60+ pictures, but I have asked Mom and
> Dad to decide where they want their most treasured ones to go. Another

Maybe it's time to start ramping back on the number of personal items
on display.  Simplifying the environment will help calm your mother.
I know -- my house is a clutter heap and it bugs my mom, but I'm
physically handicapped and can't do much about it, and she can't either
any more (which is the main thing that bugs her, I think).

Mom's recent reaction to her photos is interesting.  They seem to
agitate her more than comfort her, possibly because she can't remember
a lot of the people in them.  And seeing dead loved ones that she does
remember doesn't help her spirits either.  Mostly they sit in their
box.  She still likes to look at her ceramic Hummel figures -- we have
several out, not all of them.  The sad clowns are in her room, as I
really can't stand them.

Anyway, didn't you say it was a smaller place?  If you had 20 photos
put up, you and your Dad could rotate which ones were on display at
any one time.  Just a thought.

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Dennis P. Harris - 19 Jun 2004 07:33 GMT
> Simplifying the environment will help calm your mother.
> I know -- my house is a clutter heap and it bugs my mom, but I'm
> physically handicapped and can't do much about it,

most states have home health aides available (often with a
subsidy) who can do house cleaning, de-cluttering, and other
chores for the elderly or disabled.  check with your state's
agency for the aging about what programs are available in your
area.
 
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