M Mom is in a Belmont Village - neighborhood.
My problem is they abuse me.
It is a very ritzy place but they show me no respect, when they call Friday pm
saying Mom is out of something. This has been going on for a year. I work long
hours weekends and they could inventory on another day, and call before she
runs out....This abuse and stress, has me at the point of tears.
But now it is worse.
In the last month I have had several irate calls from the head RN saying Mom
was out of things, without calling to say she was low first. And then
yesterday, I got a call that she was almost out, only to find she still had a
full bottle. They insist there have been multiple calls that i ignored but
their had not. The panic and stress this causes me, is amazing. What do i do
about this? I am not thier slave to be kept busy with meaningless tasks. The
normal people are lying, Threatening and "documenting"
BTW, I tried bringing them extra [they disapear]
and letting them order things, [but the cost was 25% more]
I kept track of Mom's useage [they now claim she uese 8 briefs a day]
Is that possible?
> M Mom is in a Belmont Village - neighborhood.
> My problem is they abuse me.
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> I kept track of Mom's useage [they now claim she uese 8
> briefs a day] Is that possible?
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It sounds like your Mom requires more attention
than the current facility can provide. Maybe it's
time to consider moving her to a Nursing Home.

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Kay, I hate to say it, but if the relationship is that bad, for
goodness sakes, MOVE HER. As she gets more frail, doubtless the rate
of the calls will increase if you and the staff are not in sync.
Clearly, in the current situation, both sides are very frustrated and
angry with each other, and if you can't work it out, you need to give
it a go somewhere else. I'm wondering if they are trying to get rid of
her and just picking on everything they can think of - and if they
aren't prepared to adequately look after her, then it can't be good
for her either.
When you start with a new place, work hard to develop a positive
relationship with the administrators and the staff, since you do need
them to be on side, and not hostile to you - and part of that is you
have to be firmly assertive, but not rude or in their face, and
certainly not panicked and upset by them. You need to be in a
partnership to do the best for your mother.
Mary G.
Dennis P. Harris - 27 May 2004 04:32 GMT
> Kay, I hate to say it, but if the relationship is that bad, for
> goodness sakes, MOVE HER. As she gets more frail, doubtless the rate
> of the calls will increase if you and the staff are not in sync.
I agree --- you need to start looking NOW for another place!
Yes, she could easily use 8 or more depends a day if she has
become incontinent.
And if you have complaints about these folks, KEEP WRITTEN NOTES
of every phone conversation (or keep the answering machine
messages until you put them on another tape).
At risk of getting flamed, I think we need to also consider the village's
point of view on this.
> M Mom is in a Belmont Village - neighborhood.
> My problem is they abuse me.
> It is a very ritzy place but they show me no respect, when they call Friday pm
> saying Mom is out of something. This has been going on for a year. I work long
> hours weekends and they could inventory on another day, and call before she
> runs out....This abuse and stress, has me at the point of tears.
How is this abuse? The facility houses more than your mother, and the best
way for them to care for multiple people is to have standard schedules. Most
people have weekends off, and so calling on Friday to say "please pick this
up over the weekend" is convenient for the majority of people. It is
unrealistic to expect them to make a special inventory for your mom on
another day. It IS realistic for them to reset their "reorder point" for
you. By this, I mean, I expect when some supply gets down to X level they
tell you that you need more. They expect that X will last until the family
brings in more, having purchased over the weekend. You may need your X to be
higher, because you will not bring more until the middle of the next week.
> But now it is worse.
> In the last month I have had several irate calls from the head RN saying Mom
> was out of things, without calling to say she was low first.
She should not be ugly. But is it possible someone else in your family took
a message and did not give it to you? If this is a pattern, though, I agree
it is of concern.
And then
> yesterday, I got a call that she was almost out, only to find she still had a
> full bottle.
First you complain that they don't call when they think she's low, then you
complain that they do. Mistakes DO get made.
They insist there have been multiple calls that i ignored but
> their had not. The panic and stress this causes me, is amazing.
Amazing indeed. Learn to accept some of this as par for the course. When you
delegate some of the caregiving, you end up with these issues and lost
clothes,etc. I am not faulting you for doing so -- I know right now I will
never care for my mom in my own home. But you have to accept certain things
like rainy days that come whether you want them or not.
What do i do
> about this? I am not thier slave to be kept busy with meaningless tasks.
Making sure your mom has the proper supplies is meaningless? Or is there
something else?
The
> normal people are lying, Threatening and "documenting"
Nothing wrong with documenting. You should do it too. Keep a log of every
time they call -- who you talk to -- what they request -- when you take it.
> BTW, I tried bringing them extra [they disapear]
> and letting them order things, [but the cost was 25% more]
> I kept track of Mom's useage [they now claim she uese 8 briefs a day]
> Is that possible?
With incontinence, yes (do you want her to sit in wet ones to conserve?!?)
and especially with confusion -- some patients will try to remove them, used
or unused, and they don't always go back on, nor might it be the most
sanitary thing to do if it were.
Your post has a great deal of anger -- and I'm not sure all of it should be
directed at the facility. I'm not faulting you or fussing nor even trying to
be non-supportive. I just think you might benefit from seeing things from
their perspective, and indeed it may be less stressful for you to realize
they are not trying to make your life a living hell -- it's just an
institution, and institutions must have structures in order to function.
Songbird
Evelyn Ruut - 27 May 2004 21:21 GMT
> At risk of getting flamed, I think we need to also consider the village's
> point of view on this.
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>
> Songbird
Songbird, you expressed exactly what ran through my mind when I read the
same post. I didn't see any complaint listed that seemed very sound to me.
I am sorry, but that is the truth.

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Mary Gordon - 28 May 2004 12:08 GMT
I also wonder if paying the extra 25% to get the nursing home to
supply the briefs might not be money well spent, if having to keep the
stock up personally is so very upsetting and stressful.
We let the home supply just about everything beyond my MIL's clothing,
and even that was hard to keep up with sometimes between things
disappearing and getting destroyed - I'd forget to pick up more
sometimes and come down to see her and be mortified to find she had no
socks in the drawer, or her underwear was in tatters (I never bought
so many pairs of "smalls" in my life as when my MIL was in the home).
Mary G.
KarRealtor - 10 Jun 2004 01:45 GMT
After buying Depends at Costco for many months, we decided to let the ALF
furnish them for my MIL. To our happy surpise, they were substantially cheaper
(and we thought we were saving money by buying them ourselves!) Not to mention
the added convenience. Definately a win-win situation for us! KarenC
Evelyn Ruut - 10 Jun 2004 12:12 GMT
> After buying Depends at Costco for many months, we decided to let the ALF
> furnish them for my MIL. To our happy surpise, they were substantially cheaper
> (and we thought we were saving money by buying them ourselves!) Not to mention
> the added convenience. Definately a win-win situation for us! KarenC
Hi Karen,
We finally decided to let the nursing home do Ida's laundry, since they kept
on losing (and finding) her clothes. It turned out that they haven't lost
anything since!

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KarRealtor - 10 Jun 2004 14:35 GMT
Any step to make things simpler is a step in the right direction! Even the
"lost" clothes will probably get found again. We often find my MIL dressed in
some perky little outfit that's definately not hers. She's clean, happy & well
cared for, that's what its all about, anyway! KarenC