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I think that uranium dust causes alzheimer

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Ernest Nafkin - 16 Apr 2004 08:55 GMT
It´s because of these damned nuclear tests and the nuclear power
plants.Nobody had alzheimer 100 years ago, these damned radioactive
heavy metals are much more toxic than lead.

I think we should shoot all the radiactive sh.t to the moon or to
Venus to get an earth without all these diseases.
Evelyn Ruut - 16 Apr 2004 12:22 GMT
> It?s because of these damned nuclear tests and the nuclear power
> plants.Nobody had alzheimer 100 years ago, these damned radioactive
> heavy metals are much more toxic than lead.
>
> I think we should shoot all the radiactive sh.t to the moon or to
> Venus to get an earth without all these diseases.

Ernest I am sorry to tell you that you are incorrect.  Alzheimers has always
been around.  The older people are the higher their chances of getting it.
So as medical science has advanced and people live longer, more people are
getting it.

They just called it by different names..... they used to call it "second
childhood" or just plain "senile" but it isn't anything new.
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Regards,
Evelyn

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Mary Gordon - 16 Apr 2004 18:38 GMT
Never mind that the average lifespan in North America in 1900 was
still only mid to later 40's, so a lot fewer people lived long enough
to be at high risk for entering what they used to call their "second
childhood".

When someone did become "senile" they were cared for at home on the
farm by family, and thus were invisible to the community - plus as
they became frail due to the dementia, they didn't survive long, since
other health issues would pick them off early in very short order. In
the world before antibiotics etc. I'm sure the vunerable elderly were
routinely carried off in droves by minor infections.

Can you imagine anyone 100 years ago surviving to the very end stages
of AD? Even with the best care they had, the person would have ended
up spending the last years of their life bedridden.

My husband's grandfather broke a hip about 50 years ago in his late
70's, and it was never repaired as they felt a man his age couldn't
"take" being in traction for an extended period - which is the best
they had back then as a treatment. He lived another 7 or 8 years,
totally bedridden.

Mary G.
Robert E. Lewis - 18 Apr 2004 04:07 GMT
<snip of theory>

> Ernest I am sorry to tell you that you are incorrect.  Alzheimers has always
> been around.  The older people are the higher their chances of getting it.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> They just called it by different names..... they used to call it "second
> childhood" or just plain "senile" but it isn't anything new.

All the world ?s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players. 1
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse?s arms...

... Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

William Shakespeare, describing senile dementia in 'The Seven Ages of Man',
in 'As You Like It', act ii, scene 7.

--
Robert
Evelyn Ruut - 18 Apr 2004 05:13 GMT
> <snip of theory>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> --
> Robert

Yes, and the Bard lived in the 1500's didn't he(I think)?  WAY long before
the atomic age.
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Evelyn

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Robert E. Lewis - 18 Apr 2004 03:51 GMT
> It?s because of these damned nuclear tests and the nuclear power
> plants.Nobody had alzheimer 100 years ago, these damned radioactive
> heavy metals are much more toxic than lead.

Wow - and the radioactivity acted fast, too!  The radioactivity of uranium
was discovered in about 1896, radium was identified by the Curies a couple
of years later... and by 1906, Alois Alzheimer was able to autopsy a woman
who had been suffering from progressive dementia for years.

I think Alzheimers is caused by airplanes.  They were invented about the
same time Alzheimer made the clinical description of the disease. My theory
goes like this: people hear an airplane flying overhead and they look up to
see it (this is why AD especially strikes older people - airplanes were more
of a curiosity sixty or seventy years ago, so people looked more).  All that
tilting the head back sloshes the brain cells around inside the skull - it
just naturally follows that memories get mixed up as a result.

> I think we should shoot all the radiactive sh.t to the moon or to
> Venus to get an earth without all these diseases.

I am watching 'Apollo 13' as I write this, and that and memories of two
Space Shuttle disasters don't convince me of the wisdom of putting tons of
radioactive waste on rockets and blasting them through the atmosphere.
Besides, we may want to go to Venus someday, and most certainly Man will
want to return to the Moon (in my lifetime, I hope), so we don't want to go
polluting other corners of our solar system with uranium or old airplanes.

---
Robert
Mary Gordon - 18 Apr 2004 19:37 GMT
I love it Robert!!!

I work for an electrical utility, and at the peak of the hysteria
about potential health effects from electric and magnetic fields from
household electricity use (about 6 or 7 years back), I used to answer
the 1-800 call line from customers with questions.

Most of the calls were from people with very reasonable questions and
concerns, but every now and then I would get calls from someone
totally off their lid who had decided the root cause of their illness
must be related to electricity - i.e. people who thought mind control
emissions were coming into their fridge via the wiring and polluting
their food, that there was a government or alien conspiracy to destroy
their health and they couldn't tell their doctor about their symptoms
because he was part of it, etc. etc. Many of them had genuine physical
symptoms - but what they were convinced they were from made no sense -
such as the lady who thought poisons from fire fighting foams at
nuclear stations located hundreds of miles away were travelling into
her house via the wiring.

The really scary part about many of these people was that they were
clearly living on their own and able to function relatively
independently and they did sound normal initially - it was only after
you talked to them for a while that you realized they were really in
need of professional help. What it brought home to me was there really
is a big chunk of mentally ill people out there who will seize on
whatever is closest as the cause of their issues (i.e. its magnetic
fields, its radioactive dust, its whatever).

Mary G.
Jennie - 18 Apr 2004 04:33 GMT
Ernest,

Au contraire, it was just about 100 years ago when Alzheimers Disease was
first identified.

The disease is named for Dr. Alois Alzheimer.  If you will go to the web
site http://www.whonamedit.com/doctor.cfm/177.html , you will find out that
Dr. Alzheimer first identified the disease as a peculiar disease of the
cerebral cortex at a scientific meeting in 1906.  The woman patient whose
case led to Dr. Alzheimer's identification of the disease died at age 51;
she had what we now call "early onset Alzheimers", although at 51, she
probably lived longer than average for that time.

You apparently have a computer.  Why don't you do some searches on the web
and find out when nuclear tests and nuclear power plants first came on the
scene?  I find history very interesting, and I'd sure like to know.

- Jennie

> It?s because of these damned nuclear tests and the nuclear power
> plants.Nobody had alzheimer 100 years ago, these damned radioactive
> heavy metals are much more toxic than lead.
>
> I think we should shoot all the radiactive sh.t to the moon or to
> Venus to get an earth without all these diseases.
 
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