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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / February 2004The cure for multiple diseases. I crossed post. please reply to this post not the previouse. too many groups, my mistake.
It's a matter of time until the truth about rhematoid arthris, Multiple sclerosis, Fibromyalgia, Chronic sinus suffers, Chronic fatigue, Alzeimers and other inflections comes out. This disease is simply an infection. I am being treated by a Lyme guru who believes that that bacteria is the culprit. Truth is there are many possible bad guys out there that could cause this. I am also fighting strep pyogene which I know can cause seriouse mental problems along with horrible arthritis problems. The toxins kill every organ in the body. Luckily I will survive(i hope) with only fairly bad memory problems. drmirkin.com is a good source along with the CDC for info on this. here is his post for reactive arthritis. reactive infection is when the bacteria, mycoplasm, virus is in other parts of the body(sinus, spinal column,brain, etc.) Note,the cure is very painfull and can actually kill the patient.For example,STSS strep toxic shock syndrome in which I am all to familiar with. good luck all. Heres the post. REACTIVE ARTHRITIS Gabe Mirkin, M.D. I am absolutely amazed that more doctors do not treat at least some of their arthritis patient with antibiotics because there are hundreds of papers showing that hundreds of different infections cause arthritis. Doctors do not have laboratory tests to diagnose many of the germs that cause arthritis. Failure to treat arthritis early can cause permanent cartilaginous damage so that no treatment can be effective later. The most common cause of arthritis, particularly in people under 50, is reactive arthritis that often follows an infection. If you develop sudden unexplained pain in one or more joints, your doctor should check you for an infection. You should be asked if you have a urinary tract infection: burning on urination, discomfort when your bladder is full, a feeling that you have to urinate all the time, getting up in the middle of the night to urinate. Check for a stomach infection: belching and burning in stomach or chest. Check for a lung infection: chronic cough, shortness of breath, wheezing, burning in your nose or soreness in your throat. Check for intestinal infection: diarrhea, belly cramps or blood in stool. Also check for gum disease, chronic stuffy nose, chills or fever. The following can cause reactive arthritis: Salmonella intestinal infection (1), mononucleosis (2,21,25), parvovirus, chronic hepatitis B virus and hepatitis C) virus infections (3), Retroviruses (4,5). Venereal diseases, such as chlamydia, mycoplasma, ureaplasma, gonorrhea and Gardnerella cause arthritis (6,7,8), mycoplasma (9), Human T Cell Leukemia Virus-1 (10,33), chlamydia (11,15,16,17,18,24,34), urinary infections with chlamydia, ureaplasma and mycoplasma (12,26,27,39), many different intestinal infections (13,35,41,42,43,44,45,46), ureaplasma (14,27), Lyme disease (19,23), Salmonella diarrhea (20), parvovirus B19 (22,36), cytomegalovirus (25,26,32), streptococcal sore throat (28), cat scratch disease (29), human herpes virus-6 (30), hemophilus influenza bacteria (31), AIDS (HIV) (33), hepatitis B and C (36). staph aureus bacterial infections (37,38). Additional references are provided below. I treat my reactive arthritis patients with Minocycline 100 mg twice a day, but this must still be considered experimental; many doctors are not yet ready to accept antibiotics as a treatment for reactive arthritis. Many patients with rheumatoid arthritis do not feel better for the first few months after they start taking minocycline. If a patient does nor feel better after taking 100 mg of minocycline twice day for 2 months, I add Zithromax 500 mg twice a week. If the patient does not feel better after taking the two antibiotics for 6 months, I do add the immune suppressants that most rheumatologists prescribe. But as soon as they feel better, I stop the immune suppressants and continue the antibiotics. The treatment of reactive arthritis with antibiotics is controversial and not accepted by many doctors; discuss this with your doctor. 1) F Kanakouditsakalidou, G Pardalos, P Pratsidougertsi, A Kansouzidoukanakoudi, H Tsangaropouloustinga. Persistent or severe course of reactive arthritis following Salmonella enteritidis infection - A Prospective study of 9 cases. Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology 27: 6 (1998):431-434. 2) T Schifter, UH Lewinski. Adult onset Still's disease associated with Epstein-Barr virus infection in a 66-year-old woman. Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology 27: 6 (1998):458-460. 3) LB Siegel, EP Gall. Viral infection as a cause of arthritis. American Family Physician 54: 6 (NOV 1 1996):2009-2015. (parvovirus, chronic hepatitis B virus and hepatitis C) virus infections. 4) K Nakagawa, V Brusic, G Mccoll, LC Harrison. Direct evidence for the expression of multiple endogenous retroviruses in the synovial compartment in rheumatoid arthritis. Arthritis and Rheumatism 40: 4 (APR 1997):627-638. 5) K Eguchi, T Origuchi, H Takashima, K Iwata, S Katamine, S Nagataki. High seroprevalence of anti-HTLV-I antibody in rheumatoid arthritis. Arthritis and Rheumatism 39: 3 (MAR 1996):463-466. 6)S Francois, G Guyadiersouquieres, C Marcelli. Reactive arthritis due to Gardnerella vaginalis - A case-report. 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Persistent or severe course of reactive arthritis following Salmonella enteritidis infection - A Prospective study of 9 cases. Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology 27: 6 (1998):431-434. 21) T Schifter, UH Lewinski. Adult onset Still's disease associated with Epstein-Barr virus infection in a 66-year-old woman. Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology 27: 6 (1998):458-460. 22) P Roblot, F Roblot, A Ramassamy, B Becqgiraudon. Lupus syndrome after parvovirus B19 infection. Revue du Rhumatisme 64: 12 (DEC 1997):849-851. 23) S Priem, GR Burmester, T Kamradt, K Wolbart, MG Rittig, A Krause. Detection of Borrelia burgdorferi by polymerase chain reaction in synovial membrane, but not in synovial fluid from patients with persisting Lyme arthritis after antibiotic therapy. Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases 57: 2 (FEB 1998):118-121. 24) HC Gerard, PJ Branigan, HR Schumacher, AP Hudson. Synovial Chlamydia trachomatis in patients with reactive arthritis/ Reiter's syndrome are viable but show aberrant gene expression. Journal of Rheumatology 25: 4 (APR 1998):734-742. 25) M Mousavijazi, L Bostrom, C Lovmark, A Linde, M Brytting, VA Sundqvist. Infrequent detection of cytomegalovirus and Epstein-Barr virus DNA in synovial membrane of patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Journal of Rheumatology 25: 4 (APR 1998):623-628. 26) T Schaeverbeke, M Clerc, L Lequen, A Charron, C Bebear, B Debarbeyrac, B Bannwarth, J Dehais, C Bebear. Genotypic characterization of seven strains of Mycoplasma fermentans isolated from synovial fluids of patients with arthritis. Journal of Clinical Microbiology 36: 5 (MAY 1998):1226-1231. 27) TV Poggio, N Orlando, L Galanternik, S Grinstein. Microbiology of acute arthropathies among children in Argentina: Mycoplasma pneumoniae and hominis and Ureaplasma urealyticum. 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For some of these nasty diseases too much damage may have accured to cure it. However according to published reports marijuana is good for alzeimer's patients and MS patients. This medicine helped me get through unbearable pain and suffering and needs to be legalised for medical use NOW! >It's a matter of time until the truth about rhematoid arthris, >Multiple sclerosis, Fibromyalgia, Chronic sinus suffers, Chronic [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >actually kill the patient.For example,STSS strep toxic shock syndrome >in which I am all to familiar with. good luck all. Heres the post. Like Strawberries and Cream It's the only way to be Dali, have you met Tommy Hennesy? Why don't you talk to him in email. No, but I am always willing to talk and hopefully learn more from anyone. want to give me his email here or you can email me it. bborgers1@houston.rr.com >Dali, have you met Tommy Hennesy? Why don't you talk to him in email. Like Strawberries and Cream It's the only way to be ironjustice@aol.com Have fun! "Dali" wrote in message > No, but I am always willing to talk and hopefully learn more from > anyone. want to give me his email here or you can email me it. Iron cured my PLMD and I no longer have to take Mirapex. :ironjustice@aol.com : [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :> No, but I am always willing to talk and hopefully learn more from :> anyone. want to give me his email here or you can email me it. ironjustice. what kinda name is that? Sure I'll summarize this for him. >ironjustice@aol.com > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> No, but I am always willing to talk and hopefully learn more from >> anyone. want to give me his email here or you can email me it. > ironjustice. what kinda name is that? Sure I'll summarize this for > him. He knows the cause and the proper treatment of MS. You two should talk. I have, if it's not an infection then he cannot know the cause of MS. right. It sounds like yall are setting me up for something. whatever. >> ironjustice. what kinda name is that? Sure I'll summarize this for >> him. > >He knows the cause and the proper treatment of MS. > >You two should talk. > I have, if it's not an infection then he cannot know the cause of MS. > right. It sounds like yall are setting me up for something. whatever. He's a guru. He is a friggin' Nobel prize winner .... and his proof is every medical disease there is. ((U)) M >>> ironjustice. what kinda name is that? Sure I'll summarize this for >>> him. >> >> He knows the cause and the proper treatment of MS. >> >> You two should talk. He's just some weirdo who thinks Iron is the root of all evil. :> I have, if it's not an infection then he cannot know the cause of MS. :> right. It sounds like yall are setting me up for something. whatever. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] :>> :>> You two should talk. You got that right. The guy is really of the hook >He's just some weirdo who thinks Iron is the root of all evil. My wrong, then what is the cause of MS? >> I have, if it's not an infection then he cannot know the cause of MS. >> right. It sounds like yall are setting me up for something. whatever. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> >>> You two should talk. > My wrong, then what is the cause of MS? How should I know? Am I a doctor? Ask Tom Hennessy. He knows. ((U)) M >>> I have, if it's not an infection then he cannot know the cause of >>> MS. right. It sounds like yall are setting me up for something. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>>> >>>> You two should talk. He may be the guy who first suggested that these are in fact infections. I didn't know his name but I'll look it up. In this day-n-age if you have a chronic problem then one has to be their own Dr. Look things up and discuss with an open minded good Dr. thanks for the name. >> My wrong, then what is the cause of MS? > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>>>> >>>>> You two should talk. He is a god in my book.. I luv's ya Tom..<kiss kiss>  SignatureLaura, who loves Tom.. GAYLAN FOR PRESIDENT! > He may be the guy who first suggested that these are in fact > infections. I didn't know his name but I'll look it up. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >>>>> > >>>>> You two should talk. Just read some stuff by him. Very good. I like this best. Listen up trolls! He said "All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed, second it is vehemently denied and third it is accepted as being self-evident. We've been made fun of for too long. These support groups are still in the first phase. The guy knows what he's talking about thanks for the name drop. >> My wrong, then what is the cause of MS? > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>>>> >>>>> You two should talk. If he does, then you don't. You can't both be right. I say duke it out! > The guy knows what he's talking > about thanks for the name drop. No, what he is saying (long before me) is that his infliction is caused by some type of virus. I agree in that Bacteria or viral infections are the cause of these diseases. It's common sense folks. Heres the link to what I read . http://members.aol.com/rgm1/private/hennessy.htm >If he does, then you don't. You can't both be right. I say duke it out! > >> The guy knows what he's talking >> about thanks for the name drop. But Brent, you also said "You got that right. The guy is really of the hook" So which is it? Either you agree with him or you don't. > No, what he is saying (long before me) is that his infliction is > caused by some type of virus. > But Brent, you also said "You got that right. The guy is really of the hook" > > So which is it? Either you agree with him or you don't. For Brent, it could be both...I think that boy's cheese done slid off his cracker... >>No, what he is saying (long before me) is that his infliction is >>caused by some type of virus. Signaturespammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo Your unimaginable blather is starting to bore me. If you flame at least be funny. Or are you trying to be? >> But Brent, you also said "You got that right. The guy is really of the hook" >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>>No, what he is saying (long before me) is that his infliction is >>>caused by some type of virus. Sorry. I was talking about that moron sooky (or is it spooky) How long has this group been infected by this snit. >But Brent, you also said "You got that right. The guy is really of the hook" > >So which is it? Either you agree with him or you don't. > >> No, what he is saying (long before me) is that his infliction is >> caused by some type of virus. Duhhhhh.... Dali, whoever you are... you don't know what you're up against at all. (and it's obvious you don't use Google very well.) You got the wrong Tom Hennessy. You found the American one who's on about CFS. The one you want lives in Calgary, Alberta. He's Canadian, he's on about every medical disease there is... and he's a friggin' Nobel prize winner. For his home pages... see http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore/ and http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com ((U)) M > No, what he is saying (long before me) is that his infliction is > caused by some type of virus. I agree in that Bacteria or viral [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>> The guy knows what he's talking >>> about thanks for the name drop. Like I said I don't f.cking know the guy. got that! I use dogpile because it's better than google. Listening trolls. The first one I pulled up strengthened the argumant that bacteria, viruses are causing problems. He talked about Gulf War Syndrome. I guess you think it's all in there head right? >Duhhhhh.... Dali, whoever you are... you don't know what you're up against >at all. (and it's obvious you don't use Google very well.) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >The one you want lives in Calgary, Alberta. He's Canadian, he's on about >every medical disease there is... and he's a friggin' Nobel prize winner. I wonder.. is there a pill out there for us to take to get rid of *you*? Tee > Like I said I don't f.cking know the guy. got that! I use dogpile > because it's better than google. Listening trolls. The first one I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >The one you want lives in Calgary, Alberta. He's Canadian, he's on about > >every medical disease there is... and he's a friggin' Nobel prize winner. not a pill... but a little wee function re: blocking senders you don't care to ~hear~ from...I highly recommend it LOL I'm always 'up' for an entertaining troll.... have run across a few of those.... unfortunately, not in here.... here we seem to ~specialize~ in the boring, unimaginative, definitely NOT entertaining sort. > I wonder.. is there a pill out there for us to take to get rid of *you*? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > >The one you want lives in Calgary, Alberta. He's Canadian, he's on about > > >every medical disease there is... and he's a friggin' Nobel prize winner. got that right >here we seem to ~specialize~ in the >boring, unimaginative, definitely NOT entertaining sort. Yes it's called knowledge. It's a very tough one to swallow. >I wonder.. is there a pill out there for us to take to get rid of *you*? > >Tee Obviously you haven't taken any of them, right? Tee > Yes it's called knowledge. It's a very tough one to swallow. > > >I wonder.. is there a pill out there for us to take to get rid of *you*? > > > >Tee Dali > Just read some stuff by him. If you went into his websites, you've now got spyware cookies. Very good. I like this best. Listen up > trolls! He said "All truth goes through three stages. First it is > ridiculed, second it is vehemently denied and third it is accepted as > being self-evident. As all his other "writing," this was stolen from another writer. Ghandi. We've been made fun of for too long. These support > groups are still in the first phase. The guy knows what he's talking > about thanks for the name drop. LOL! You don't know what you're in for now! Sylvia Could you please post your home address and phone number so we can all give you a ring and chat about your THEORY ? Some of us may even LIMP round to say HI ! I am fairly certain we can ring at MOST hours of the day... NBD >My wrong, then what is the cause of MS? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>> >>>> You two should talk. THIS is what a troll would do!!!!!!!!! I got star 69. you don't wanna f.ck with me This is not my theory, this is trials going on as we speak. If you read anything about my post you would know that. GEEZ are u all this ignorant. >Could you please post your home address and >phone number so we can all give you a ring [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >NBD Not ignorant, you moron. Hostile. You have done the equivalent of stepping - sans even an introduction - into a parlour where friends gather, so you can spout your pet theory about a disease you know little to nothing about. In other times and places, it's customary to beat, stab or shoot such intruders, and you should consider yourself extremely lucky that you're not dealing with people who are physically present and outnumber you as we do. Go peddle your wares someplace where it's both applicable and appreciated. I assure you: here, it's neither. ((U)) M > THIS is what a troll would do!!!!!!!!! > I got star 69. you don't wanna f.ck with me [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> NBD Jeez I thought this was aplace to get knowledge about helping those with theses diseases. Not a place to whine about yourself and do nothing. This not my PET THEORY. I'll say this again top minds in all of these fields are beginning to understand. There are articles which back up everything said. can u read. And yea like the gangs who burned witches. Nice folks you guys are. I'm here to help those who want it and in fact I already have. don't like it block me out. >Not ignorant, you moron. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >((U)) You've said nothing interesting or pleasant, so why should anyone respond pleasantly? You haven't even introduced youself. Things like: how old you are, when did you find this disabling thing going on inside you... whatever it is... and whether you have a family or live alone. You get the idea, right? If you're not a troll, then act like a human being. Maybe by telling us who you are (no, I don't care about your name, but the things I mentioned above would go a long way to telling people what sort of a person they're dealing with.) ((U)) M > Jeez I thought this was aplace to get knowledge about helping those > with theses diseases. Not a place to whine about yourself and do [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >> ((U)) I sent an earlier post. I really dont want to be hostile with anyone. In my other NG I get laughs and give laughs to help thru this tough time. I'm willing to forgive and forget. but I doubt others are. the bombs came at me first. i was only defending myself. nice epost. appreciate it. >You've said nothing interesting or pleasant, so why should anyone respond >pleasantly? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >((U)) > ironjustice@aol.com > > Have fun! ROFLMAO!!!!! Now to clean the pepsi off my computer screen. lol Jodi >Just a note. For some of these nasty diseases too much damage may have >accured to cure it. However according to published reports marijuana [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >O can it curee splitt endz? Watch my mental breakdown as it happens. http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/ I'm posting...be very afraid. http://www.lolfun.com/flash_0603/funky_d.cfm Tank goodness for usenet to keep track of my major life events. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad. If not, don't worry. Just forget all about it. His Holiness the Dalai Lama you got me there. lol. I dont mind a flame if it's funny. Spooky and his dried up anus however.... >can it curee splitt endz? Here is an excellent article on the nastiness of Lyme borreliosis . I can even add to this article. Like it's cousin Syphilis, it can be given sexually and passed from mother to offspring. The possibillities are endless for the destructiveness to not only individual people but to our society as a whole. http://library.lymenet.org/domino/file.nsf/bbf2f15334c1f28585256613000317cc/87e8 dfed931381b7852567c70012001f?OpenDocument Like Strawberries and Cream It's the only way to be oh god...help..we are underattack in the MS group by the lyme zealots..someone make it stop....<holding sides of head> Please it hurts..... SignatureLaura GAYLAN FOR PRESIDENT! > Here is an excellent article on the nastiness of Lyme borreliosis . I > can even add to this article. Like it's cousin Syphilis, it can be > given sexually and passed from mother to offspring. The possibillities > are endless for the destructiveness to not only individual people but > to our society as a whole. http://library.lymenet.org/domino/file.nsf/bbf2f15334c1f28585256613000317cc/87e8 dfed931381b7852567c70012001f?OpenDocument > Like Strawberries and Cream > It's the only way to be Pretty funny. I cant really say it's Lyme. I don't know. There are alot of different bacteria or maybe even a virus. Do you really want the Lyme bacteria in your skull. remember it's a cousin of syphilis. >oh god...help..we are underattack in the MS group by the lyme >zealots..someone make it stop....<holding sides of head> Please it >hurts..... >Pretty funny. I cant really say it's Lyme. I don't know. There are >alot of different bacteria or maybe even a virus. Do you really want >the Lyme bacteria in your skull. remember it's a cousin of syphilis. Now you are starting to make sense. Please explain in more detail though. Would this be a first cousin, third cousin once removed, cousin by marriage? We await your reply with bated breath. --- Joan If you are trying to make fun of me I suggest you go to the CDC and get educated. The bacteria are both spirochettes. DNA wise they are very similar.That would be first cousins. >>Pretty funny. I cant really say it's Lyme. I don't know. There are >>alot of different bacteria or maybe even a virus. Do you really want [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >--- >Joan >If you are trying to make fun of me I suggest you go to the CDC and >get educated. The bacteria are both spirochettes. DNA wise they are >very similar.That would be first cousins. Or perhaps kissing cousins? And while you are talking about spirochetes, why not learn to spell the word? Syphilis had a unique spelling as well. Go take another antibiotic, you will feel much better. By the way are you acquainted with this Kelly who has appeared at the same time as you? Is this a joint effort to annoy as many people as possible? I am bored with both of you now. Maybe the other people here will talk to you. I am finished. Tell him, Sooky! --- Joan I'll be the first to admit my spelling and word recognition has gone downhill. It's part of the infection and I dont have word check. Thanx for making fun of it. Why don't you go to the loony bin and start poking them with stick now. Did you look it up? I thought not. read or be ignorant. see if i care >>If you are trying to make fun of me I suggest you go to the CDC and >>get educated. The bacteria are both spirochettes. DNA wise they are [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >--- >Joan >I'll be the first to admit my spelling and word recognition has gone >downhill. It's part of the infection and I dont have word check. You use Forte Agent, which has an excellent spell checker. __ *´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim Please tell me how. I would be most greatfull. I've been trying to find it everywhere. >>I'll be the first to admit my spelling and word recognition has gone >>downhill. It's part of the infection and I dont have word check. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim >Why don't you go to the loony bin Loony bin? That tells us exactly how you regard other people who are less fortunate than you. __ *´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim I would have been in there if some Dr's had there way. I'm one of them. They are products of the medical establishment.I apologies if I offend but the offence is toward the establishment. again I have a problem remembering the right words. It's part of the disease and it's quit maddening. I still can't think of the name. Crematorium? This disease sux. >>Why don't you go to the loony bin > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim You may spell it but am I correct in my statement that they are similar? no reply is expected. >And while you are talking about spirochetes, why not learn to spell the word? >Syphilis had a unique spelling as well. Joan, I am Kelly. I think you are mistaking me with KRL528. As I said before, I made one little comment where I mentioned the "L" word. As a card-carrying, Betaseron-Taking, legs-screaming in pain MS'er, I throw myself upon the mercy of the court and beg everyone's forgiveness if I in fact sent the Lyme trolls to our happy little forum. > >If you are trying to make fun of me I suggest you go to the CDC and > >get educated. The bacteria are both spirochettes. DNA wise they are [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > --- > Joan Sad you have to do this. Do they belittle you for talking your mind. >Joan, I am Kelly. I think you are mistaking me with KRL528. As I >said before, I made one little comment where I mentioned the "L" word. > As a card-carrying, Betaseron-Taking, legs-screaming in pain MS'er, I >throw myself upon the mercy of the court and beg everyone's >forgiveness if I in fact sent the Lyme trolls to our happy little >forum. Would those replying to this thread please be so kind as to remove alt.support.alzheimers from the headers? This has nothing to do with supporting the needs of caregivers for patients with alzheimers disease. SignatureEvelyn (To reply to me personally, remove sox) > Joan, I am Kelly. I think you are mistaking me with KRL528. As I > said before, I made one little comment where I mentioned the "L" word. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > --- > > Joan <oooh> I think he is onto us folks..<going off to have sex with Tommy > .spread the syphilis ya know...Have a lousy life Dali..who luvs ya? SignatureLaura, who definitively does not have lyme GAYLAN FOR PRESIDENT! > Pretty funny. I cant really say it's Lyme. I don't know. There are > alot of different bacteria or maybe even a virus. Do you really want [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >zealots..someone make it stop....<holding sides of head> Please it > >hurts..... lots of folks. who loves you? that dried up worm sooky. I love the way ignorant people fight off intellectual discusion with complete blabber. Looking real smart there girl. repent and I may forgive you.who luvs ya? >Have a lousy life Dali..who luvs ya? > lots of folks. who loves you? that dried up worm sooky. I love the way > ignorant people fight off intellectual discusion with complete > blabber. Looking real smart there girl. repent and I may forgive > you.who luvs ya? I think it's great how you completely ignored the followup post where I pointed out a whole series of your moronic comments. Instead, you've posted a heap of replies elsewhere in a hopeless attempt to distract from it. No test for lyme, indeed! *guffaw* How long has it been since your last "breakdown"? >>Have a lousy life Dali..who luvs ya? Signaturespammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo I believe i did post to all of your verbage. one about spelling another laughing at my STSS. Laughing at very sick people should be enen beneath a troll like you. want an intelligent argument bring up any item you have a problem with. I'd love to discuss it with you. Might even get you off those steroids and start living again. >> lots of folks. who loves you? that dried up worm sooky. I love the way >> ignorant people fight off intellectual discusion with complete [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >>>Have a lousy life Dali..who luvs ya? >another laughing at my STSS. Laughing at very sick people should be >enen beneath a troll like you. We are not laughing at you, we think you are full of sh.t. What is STSS? Does it have something to do with the loony bin you mentioned? __ *´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim Sure the hell does. It's strep toxic shock syndrom. Kinda like MRSA. which causes toxic shock when the staff gets inside the host. Toxins from the bacteria ravage your mind, liver, kiddnies, etc. It's similar to strep B when the woman wore super absorbant tampons. Nasty way to go.The Dr's wanted to put me in the asylum for this disease. These are the horror stories of the medical establishment that i'm trying to convey. >>another laughing at my STSS. Laughing at very sick people should be >>enen beneath a troll like you. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim Sooky,,, Look at all the newsgroups you are posting too. How about dropping alt.support.arthritis???? You don't really think we need to read this sh.t do ya? Harv > > lots of folks. who loves you? that dried up worm sooky. I love the way > > ignorant people fight off intellectual discusion with complete [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > >>Have a lousy life Dali..who luvs ya? And, while you are at it, can you also drop alt.support.sinusitis? These posts are a royal pain. Mel > Sooky,,, Look at all the newsgroups you are posting too. How about > dropping alt.support.arthritis???? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > >>Have a lousy life Dali..who luvs ya? > And, while you are at it, can you also drop alt.support.sinusitis? > > These posts are a royal pain. > > Mel Agreed. >It's a matter of time until the truth about rhematoid arthris, >Multiple sclerosis, Fibromyalgia, Chronic sinus suffers, Chronic >fatigue, Alzeimers and other inflections comes out. This disease is >simply an infection. You've just lost all credibility with this rather interesting cross-post; unless, of course, shyness is caused by Lyme disease). I do know that the emergence of drug-resistant pathogenic bacteria has become an important clinical problem partly due to the misuse and abuse of antibiotics. Darryl. >I am being treated by a Lyme guru who believes >that that bacteria is the culprit. Truth is there are many possible [quoted text clipped - 330 lines] >Like Strawberries and Cream >It's the only way to be I stopped posting to shynees but I did so because I had social anxiety(severe shyness). This has been cured by antibiotics. Think about it. If one has toxins in your system what organ will detect and be effected by it? the brain.. Even the add for paxil says that while the cause of this is unknown...We now know the cause of it. Infections. But yes, misuse of antibiotics is a big problem. >You've just lost all credibility with this rather interesting >cross-post; unless, of course, shyness is caused by Lyme disease). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Darryl. > I stopped posting to shynees but I did so because I had social > anxiety(severe shyness). This has been cured by antibiotics. LOL This person has to be a troll. A good troll does not pick support groups, though. Now run along and talk to your therapist about this attention seeking. Signaturespammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo Why don't you say something intelligent a.shole. I say this to help others. I've been thru to much sh.t to listen to punks like you. f.ck off and die or become an adult. >> I stopped posting to shynees but I did so because I had social >> anxiety(severe shyness). This has been cured by antibiotics. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >groups, though. Now run along and talk to your therapist about this >attention seeking. > Why don't you say something intelligent a.shole. I say this to help > others. I've been thru to much sh.t No you haven't. You have, among other things, a run of the mill personality disorder. the rest of your diagnoses are things you've made up to make excuses for yourself. People on these support groups have actually endured quite a lot of *real* problems. That's why you're just a moment's light entertainment. > to listen to punks like you. f.ck > off and die or become an adult. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>groups, though. Now run along and talk to your therapist about this >>attention seeking. Signaturespammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo I've endured your bullshit. >> Why don't you say something intelligent a.shole. I say this to help >> others. I've been thru to much sh.t [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>>groups, though. Now run along and talk to your therapist about this >>>attention seeking. If Sooky pisses you off that much, why don't you just leave? You *must* be smart enough to see you aren't wanted here by now! Tee > Why don't you say something intelligent a.shole. I say this to help > others. I've been thru to much sh.t to listen to punks like you. f.ck [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >groups, though. Now run along and talk to your therapist about this > >attention seeking. I'm on a mission from God :) Sooky and there ilk have no effect on me. If I can help one person with some Knowledge (and I have) then it's worth it. Sounds like yall are a little scared because I'm making some sence here. I go to other newsgroup where I am loved and wanted anyhow. >If Sooky pisses you off that much, why don't you just leave? You *must* be >smart enough to see you aren't wanted here by now! > >Tee You mean alt.drugs.pot ... alt.drugs.mushrooms ... alt.drugs.psychedelics ... alt.drugs.hard? None of that stuff's actually important, but drugs might explain others taking a shine to you. How long have you been disabled by your condition? ((U)) M > I'm on a mission from God :) Sooky and there ilk have no effect on me. > If I can help one person with some Knowledge (and I have) then it's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Tee I got strep throat when I was young. The strain mutated to a less virulent form and went into my sinuses. I have had Chronic Fatigue after that. I had also horrible breath which was a clue at the time that this was strep pyogenes.I have also been tested positive for Lyme. ENT's scraped out my sinuses because it was nothing but scar tissue(necrotising fascicia) but because they believe all swelling is normal no antibiotics were given. I have not been able to work for two years now but am damn lucky just to be alive. I'm on long term clindamycin , live well and excersise what little I can. Progress is slow. I had to stop working because I kept getting into car wrecks. My Life has been filled with so much misery if it was not for my two kids I would have killed myself a long time ago no doubt. From this I also got quite abit of spirituall awakening but thats another story. Hey guys , Im not a troll, a.shole maybe:) I just want to share what limited knowledge I have with others. OK trolls tear me apart. >You mean alt.drugs.pot ... alt.drugs.mushrooms ... alt.drugs.psychedelics >... alt.drugs.hard? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>> >>> Tee You say it began when you were young... how old are you now? ((U)) M > I got strep throat when I was young. The strain mutated to a less > virulent form and went into my sinuses. I have had Chronic Fatigue [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>>> >>>> Tee Thats the tough part. I think it was in 8th grade. My mom knows. I remember getting a horrible rash all on my elbows and thighs. I would take hot baths until I passed out because of the itching. I now know that that was the strep. At the time noone could figure it out. I might be wrong on the age. There is a possibiity I got it when I was born. My mom had it then. Lyme is passed down from the moms so I got that then or in seguin Texas with tickbites. I've had parasites in me basically my whole life. Thats what these bugs are. Parasites. >You say it began when you were young... how old are you now? > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Tee I'm trying to find out how long this has gone on. In the 8th grade you were... 13(?) but how old are you now... like, how long have you had the strep thing? > Thats the tough part. I think it was in 8th grade. My mom knows. I > remember getting a horrible rash all on my elbows and thighs. I would [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> Tee Soory misread your post. 36 >You say it began when you were young... how old are you now? > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Tee > Soory misread your post. 36 > >> You say it began when you were young... how old are you now? >> >> ((U)) >> M Ah. So "Dali", let's see how I've done... Your name is Brent Borgers. If you're the one all likelihood points to at the moment, you live on Timberline drive in Humble, Texas... and your home telephone number is 281-812-1798 ... at least until you get around to having it switched after this little tete-a-tete of ours. Chronic fatigue since you were young? That's odd. You're 36 years old, and your Houston Marathon stats from January 19, 1998 (where at age 30, you finished in the middle of the pack, #2618 of 4439 participants,) look like this: 2618 Brent Borgers TX 30 M 4:30:53 Is your boy gonna be playing with the Jaguars again this year, Brent? ((U)) M Yes he is. If you think im scared of your post , think again. come to my house or harm my kids i will blow you f.cking head off. Threatning my kids. you are a sick mother f.cker. >So "Dali", let's see how I've done... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >((U)) > M I'm not not threatening anyone, Brent. I'm as harmless as they come and I live 3000 miles from you. I'm just showing you that: 1) you hide very poorly behind your alias, 2) you're lying about the chronic fatigue and now everyone else knows it (since absolutely no one suffering that sh.t half their life trains long and hard enough for marathons that they finish in the middle of a 4400-runner pack on a 4-1/2 hour run,) and 3) you aren't dealing with ignorant or brain-dead people here. We've seen your kind before, and you're even a sorta poor specimen of the breed. ((U)) M > Yes he is. If you think im scared of your post , think again. come to > my house or harm my kids i will blow you f.cking head off. Threatning [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> ((U)) >> M Why have I not run another? it's because my health took a drastic turn for the worst. I tried to run this problem out of me. damn thing nearly killed me. I do not like anyone mentioning my kids. not good. tomorrow I will not continue this thread of crossposting. I will be civil and I will only answer those who ask questions. even though the many will not want to hear the answer. >2) you're lying about the chronic fatigue and now everyone else knows it >(since absolutely no one suffering that sh.t half their life trains long and >hard enough for marathons that they finish in the middle of a 4400-runner >pack on a 4-1/2 hour run,) and You tried to *RUN* a decade or more of chronic fatigue out of you? What kind of "fatigue" is it that permits someone to train for (let alone to *run*) a 4.5 hour marathon? The kind of training required to do what you did is about running 3 or 4 thousand hard milest. Running 3000 miles to get away from chronic fatigue is like driving 3000 miles on an empty tank to get to the filling station, Brent. Man... I may have MS, but I'm otherwise healthy and I'm not in *terribly* bad shape for a 44 yr old guy. Fatigue? I couldn't run for 4.5 *minutes* without utterly destroying all hope I have of even getting out of *bed* for a week or more... and I don't have CFS or anything remotely like it. One thing *you* don't have (or have anything appropriate to contribute,) is credibility to talk about MS. > Why have I not run another? it's because my health took a drastic turn > for the worst. I tried to run this problem out of me. damn thing [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> life trains long and hard enough for marathons that they finish in >> the middle of a 4400-runner pack on a 4-1/2 hour run,) and >I'm on a mission from God I knew it. __ *´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim Arn't we all? I sure am and it feels good all over. >>I'm on a mission from God > >I knew it. > __ > >*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->Jim > > I stopped posting to shynees but I did so because I had social > > anxiety(severe shyness). This has been cured by antibiotics. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > groups, though. Now run along and talk to your therapist about this > attention seeking. True - but trolls sometimes goes after the disabled, infirm, elderly.. He THINKS we are all stupid and easy pickings.. and he is getting off.. I can see my work here is done though..MS does not mean mentally stymied..not do any of these other groups mo-ron trolled in. All the folks responding have noted this already. The only dumb on here is Dali. Farewell.. And I am dumb because why? cause you say I am. Well if thats the best you got theres not much to debate about. I bow to your all knowing knowledge. Farewell > The only dumb on here is Dali. Farewell.. I can only speak about you. Pease change think to KNOW >True - but trolls sometimes goes after the disabled, infirm, elderly.. He >THINKS we are all stupid and easy pickings.. > I can only speak about you. Pease change think to KNOW > > >True - but trolls sometimes goes after the disabled, infirm, elderly.. He > >THINKS we are all stupid and easy pickings.. How about dropping alt.support.arthritis out of all this childish talk???? Your posting to 6 support newsgroups with a bunch of people bashing. Harv I know. sorry. >> I can only speak about you. Pease change think to KNOW >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Harv maybe it will get better soon. hope so. >> I can only speak about you. Pease change think to KNOW >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Harv >I stopped posting to shynees but I did so because I had social >anxiety(severe shyness). This has been cured by antibiotics. Think >about it. If one has toxins in your system what organ will detect and >be effected by it? the brain.. Even the add for paxil says that while >the cause of this is unknown...We now know the cause of it. >Infections. But yes, misuse of antibiotics is a big problem. While bacteria do mutate at a high rate, 100 mutations does not necessarily translate to 100 types of infections or 100 viable bugs (you mentioned this elsewhere) Very few mutations in the active site of a beta-lactamase, for example, yield a competent enzyme. What about multi-drug resistance (MDR) proteins; porins such as OrpD that play a role in active efflux; permeability barriers; MRSA and VRE...the list continues. The overuse and misuse of antibiotics is acting as a catalyst for change within our little friends. In other words, to treat the plethora of disease states you refer to will quickly yield a pharmacy of useless antibiotics. As opposed to engaging in useful discussion, you digress to the use of expletives and are now viewed as a troll. The burden is on you to provide the facts although I suspect they will not be forthcoming. Sooky makes a good point: why the support groups? Darryl. >>You've just lost all credibility with this rather interesting >>cross-post; unless, of course, shyness is caused by Lyme disease). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >>Darryl. I am afraid of nothing. Even in showing my ignorance. I can confirm that there are 100 mutation in Strep A. I cannot imagine even one of them being friendly to a human host. Sounds like you are an expert in antibiotics. What would you do in my situation where I get off antibiotics and go straight into STSS. I know already "Do it." I go into expletive because of the lowlifes such a spook. I have to put them in their place. Yes I hate going down there. I have also had very good and intellectual post with others. I'm posting in all groups. I've never heard of >what about multi-drug resistance (MDR) proteins; porins such as OrpD that >play a role in active efflux; permeability barriers." will look up when I get a chance. VRE,MRSA,STSS, are the final battles between us and bacteria. Japan had one death already from a "super bug" If one thinks we have won the war they are truly mistaken or ignorant like sookey pants. stopping the use of antibiotics is not an answer. Yes it's misused on cattle and for colds etc. but the problem is already here. I can only give the facts that are at the CDC. can u give me the source on this >100 mutations does not >necessarily translate to 100 types of infections maybe I mispoke. my bad if true >While bacteria do mutate at a high rate, 100 mutations does not >necessarily translate to 100 types of infections or 100 viable bugs [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >expletives and are now viewed as a troll. The burden is on you to >provide the facts although I suspect they will not be forthcoming. [useless drivel snipped] You are either a fucktard, or in need of much stronger medication. I suggest haldol. Please go with these nice men in the white coats. Signaturespammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo Alway enjoy someone who says nothing but you are this or that. You are beneath me. give an intelligent answer or f.ck the hell off. >[useless drivel snipped] > >You are either a fucktard, or in need of much stronger medication. I >suggest haldol. Please go with these nice men in the white coats. > Alway enjoy someone who says nothing but you are this or that. You are > beneath me. give an intelligent answer or f.ck the hell off. Answer? What's the question? Oh wait, I know: is Dali a fucktard? The answer, I'm afraid, is yes. I know it comes as a shock. I'm sure you'll do fine being a bludger and all. Best of luck! >>[useless drivel snipped] >> >>You are either a fucktard, or in need of much stronger medication. I >>suggest haldol. Please go with these nice men in the white coats. Signaturespammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo You tire me with your drivel. I live in Houston Texas come on over so I can bitch slap you, you sad little bitch. Does it help your tiny mind to belittle others? huh does it? >> Alway enjoy someone who says nothing but you are this or that. You are >> beneath me. give an intelligent answer or f.ck the hell off. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>>You are either a fucktard, or in need of much stronger medication. I >>>suggest haldol. Please go with these nice men in the white coats. > You tire me with your drivel. I live in Houston Texas come on over so > I can bitch slap you, you sad little bitch. Okay. Post an address. I'll actually be passing through there soon enough! > Does it help your tiny > mind to belittle others? huh does it? Others? No...no it's just you :) Signaturespammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo I would but I can already tell you got's problems. get help little man >> You tire me with your drivel. I live in Houston Texas come on over so >> I can bitch slap you, you sad little bitch. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Others? No...no it's just you :) sooky he is getting..spastic..! SignatureLaura<---i luv doey AND Dali now i think!!! GAYLAN FOR PRESIDENT! > You tire me with your drivel. I live in Houston Texas come on o |
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