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Maurice & Brenda Terry - 14 Feb 2004 16:37 GMT
Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
with AD about 3 years ago.  Yall I have no patience anymore.  I have no
help with him.  I feel terrible but asking the same questions over and
over is really doing a number on me.  I guess I just need to vent.  My
parents are elderly and` live in the metroplex.  I talk to them but they
dont understand.  They dont see him but every six months or so.  I have
called our local  AD office but they werent helpful.  I suppose there
arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Songbird - 14 Feb 2004 19:43 GMT
Welcome aboard, Brenda. I'm glad you found us. It's not like any of us
*wants* to be here -- but it's easier when we're hanging on to the ends of
our respective ropes together!

Songbird
Evelyn Ruut - 14 Feb 2004 20:35 GMT
> Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
> of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry

Hi Brenda,

Welcome to the newsgroup nobody really wanted to join, but thank goodness it
is here for us!

I know what you mean about the same questions over and over again.   We went
through about two years of that before my mother in law finally began to
quiet down.   Sadly the quieting down was the result of her illness getting
worse.

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Lee - 14 Feb 2004 22:19 GMT
must be awfully hard to do it all by yourself... there are days when My MIL
drives me nuts.... though the repetitive question period seems to be winding
down now....  but I always know that my partner will be coming home
eventually...

very different from when I was raising my kids on my own .... then my only
relief was bedtime....

no support group through your local AD office? seems like it would be a good
thing for you to get involved in....says she who's never been to one LOL

> Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
> of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
TakeItEasy45@webtv.net - 14 Feb 2004 22:57 GMT
Hi Brenda,

If I couldn't vent here once in awhile I'd go nuts.  So feel free to get
it out of your system.  Better to get it out than to bottle it up and
suddenly explode one day at your husband over something little.

I've always had a very high patience level but eight years of caring for
Mom has done a job on me.  I'm still pretty good but there were times I
had to take meds just to keep my nerves under control.  My biggest
problem with my mother is that she's never been a caring person and
wants and demands constant attention.  She resents anyone else having
any of my attention and has gotten nastier and nastier about it over the
years.  My daughter was just 13 when she had to come live with us.  I
had been widowed for ten years and when Mom suggested my stop working
and we all live off her savings in exchange for my caring for her it
seemed like a great idea since I really wanted to be home for my
daughter more.  What's the old saying....'if I had known then, what I
know now', lol.  At that time the doctor's gave her a life expectency of
only 2 to 3 years because she refused the shunt surgery necessary for
hydracephalus.  Surprise, surprise, here it is three times that.

Like you, the support systems down here aren't available.  Well, some
are but are financially restrictive for us.  There's no family nearby
except for my two children.  Other sibs/grandkids just don't visit
because of mom's attitude in the past.  The days/years when she repeated
the same stuff over and over took all I had not to lose it.  Now she
doesn't talk most of the time and grunts a lot.  The sundowning has
become worse and worse with her cussing me out or throwing things every
couple of days.  

So, if you are having problems now coping I'd suggest checking into
alternative care because it ain't gonna get any better.  Good luck to
ya'll.
Dennis P. Harris - 15 Feb 2004 06:52 GMT
> The sundowning has
> become worse and worse with her cussing me out or throwing things every
> couple of days.  

talk to her doc about meds to help with aggressive behavior...
turkey tracker - 15 Feb 2004 01:20 GMT
Brenda,
  Coincidentally my last name is Terry also.And my sister-in-law is
Brenda Terry.Small world.Barb


pitirish - 15 Feb 2004 06:15 GMT
Hi Brenda,

I'm dealing with the same issue with my wife that you have right now, namely
the constant repetition of the same questions. Regardless of how many times
you repeat the answer, your husband will not remember. Unfortunately, it's
this, and other problems that are worse than this, that we'll have to deal
with for years to come. Please continue to post here and rely on the advise
these folks post. They have forewarned me of many aspects of my wife's
behaviors for which I would otherwise have been caught by surprise.

One big thing that helped me was that I consulted a psychiatrist on my
behalf, to seek guidance about the resentment that I harbored in my "Oh, woe
is me" file. I became depressed and angry about unwillingly having become
"stuck" in what had been planned as a comfortable retirement, with an
unbidden nursing job. You may currently see your role as spouse and partner
to your husband, but your relationship may devolve into the realization that
you are the caregiver to someone who is incapable of returning not only
"love" but any semblance of appreciation whatsoever.

It's important that you find a physician to whom you can communicate your
problems. Family practitioners and psychiatrists can point to therapeutic
forums and prescribe formulas that will help you to get through the day.
Physicians can also prescribe drugs such as Aricept and Namenda so that your
husband's condition worsens less quickly.

As for help from relatives, it seems to be very hit and miss for caregivers
in this group. Friends and relatives want to "visit" and talk with your
husband as has been their practice since they've known him. Those who do not
have frequent discussions with AD patients don't have any idea of the length
of time it takes for an AD patient to develop and express an entire coherent
sentence. Moreover, folks who are unfamiliar with AD patient care don't
understand that whatever is said is to an AD patient is not going to be
assimilated. Caregivers are special people in that they will patiently await
responses, all the while knowing that whatever information they have
attempted to impart isn't likely to be received correctly, nor acted upon
effectively. It takes patience, caring and a break every once in awhile, to
be an caregiver.

I look forward to your future posts, Brenda. We live in Greensboro, North
Carolina and the AD support services in our area are excellent. I can't
suggest specific resolutions, but I offer my empathy and heartfelt
understanding, as do we all.

go'l.

> Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
> of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
JM Van_Horn - 15 Feb 2004 08:21 GMT
I have nothing but respect and amazement for you folks who
are taking care of your Loved Ones at home.  My Mom
was only in my home for 3 weeks when I had to bring
her from another state.  It was such hell.  All night she
was up and down every 10 minutes with the consequent
confusion and all day it was the same questions over and
over again.  I couldn't send an email to my boss asking
for more time off without her interrupting me 8 times with
the same question.  Thank God WebVan was still delivering
food.  I got help in at night the last week because I couldn't
think without sleep, but I couldn't sleep well because I
could still hear the commotion.  I managed to type up
some questions for the doctor - one was "What happens
to Mom if I collapse?"  He put her in the hospital that day.

I remember sitting on the sofa with my head on the sofa
arm, trying to grab a wink and Mom asking the same
thing over and over.  I'd tell her I needed to sleep and
that would be good for one flat minute.  I thought I
would go insane.

After the hospital, I got Mom into a Dementia Unit.
Then she got better - enough to go into regular
assisted living.  She had a good 3 years in assisted
living before having to go back into the Dementia Unit.
Then she fell and broke both hips and now she's in
a Nursing Home where she is adjusting well.  She's
had a bad year, poor thing.

I like the Nursing Facility better than the Dementia
Unit in a lot of ways.  They can do things for Mom
that the Dementia Unit (which was still assisted living)
could not do, such as adjust medications more quickly,
take care of skin rashes, put in a catheter, etc.  They
can keep a better eye on Mom and she's a lot
calmer at night.

joan

> Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
> of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Daphne - 16 Feb 2004 00:14 GMT
Joan

I've only been with my mother for two weeks and it feels like
eternity.  My father is here and I don't know if that's a pro or a
con.  He won't make her get the medical attention she needs and
refuses to get.  She often is in great pain but refuses to see a
doctor.  I'd do as several people in this newsgroup suggested: take
her to the ER and leave her!

My father has learned to tune out the constant questions, and the
constant yelling for her dog.  I'm getting pretty darn good at it too.

So glad your mother got the help she needs.

Daphne

> I have nothing but respect and amazement for you folks who
> are taking care of your Loved Ones at home.  My Mom
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> > arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> > me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Evelyn Ruut - 16 Feb 2004 12:10 GMT
> My father has learned to tune out the constant questions, and the
> constant yelling for her dog.  I'm getting pretty darn good at it too.

> Daphne

Hi Daphne,

My mother in law had a little Chihuahua when she first came to live here and
she was constantly yelling for it too.

She would force feed it with a spoon!

She wouldn't let it be free --- ever.
She would constantly call it and hold it ALL the time and not let it go.

The dog would finally be able to get out of her clutches at night, and would
start yapping at 3 in the morning.

She wouldn't take it out to pee, or let us take it out, but would make it go
on the floor and then clean it up with tissues.   The dog peeing and pooping
all over the place was starting to make our own animals get confused about
not going in the house.

The dog had no teeth and was 17 years old, and was totally un-housebroken at
that point.

We finally realized that this dog was NOT having a good life, and that my
mother in law was actually being very unkind to the poor thing with force
feeding it etc.

She wouldn't eat her own food but would jam it down the dogs throat instead.

She had wanted to put the dog to sleep a couple of years prior because it
was too old, but since she fell on the ice that day, she never did it.

We finally put the dog to sleep because we couldn't take care of both her
and the dog.

I believe that a person whose mind is gone is not really a fit dog owner.
They are not capable of knowing when the animal has to go out, or to be fed,
in any realistic way.   That poor dog my mother in law owned was finally
free of her only when we put it to sleep.

If your mother is "constantly yelling" for her dog, you ought to consider
letting the dog be outside a lot of the time, or giving it to a relative or
something else.   A demented person can be very inappropriate in owning a
dog, unless someone else is the actual caregiver for the dog.

In short, I feel sorry for her dog.

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Daphne - 17 Feb 2004 03:12 GMT
Evelyn,

The weather was beutiful today and my father and I were outside with
the dog.  My mother yelled and yelled and yelled for her dog for what
seemed liked hours.  I'm am truly puzzled as to why she never goes
hoarse.  She is constantly ranting.

When you put your MIL's dog to sleep didn't she constantly look for
her?  I think I would lose my mind listening to my mother.

And, once again (I know you're tired of hearing this), my father is a
problem.  He adores the dog too.  I think he feels he's saving Molly
from my mother sometimes and that makes him feel like he can do
SOMETHING.  He knows he can't help my mother, so he's struggling to
make amends.

Daphne

> > My father has learned to tune out the constant questions, and the
> > constant yelling for her dog.  I'm getting pretty darn good at it too.
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>
> In short, I feel sorry for her dog.
Evelyn Ruut - 17 Feb 2004 12:44 GMT
> Evelyn,
>
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>
> Daphne

Daphne,

My mother in law never stopped asking for her dog.   She still asks once in
a while.  But at least the poor animal is no longer being treated like that.

You are already being tortured now with her yelling constantly.... the
presence or absence of the dog will have no actual effect on her yelling for
it.

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Ronny 1 - 15 Feb 2004 19:50 GMT
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2004, 10:37am From:
jukeboxwizard@webtv.net (Maurice & Brenda Terry)
Hi, everyone.   My name is Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while. My husband was diagnosed
with AD about 3 years ago. Yall I have no patience anymore. I have no
help with him. I feel terrible but asking the same questions over and
over is really doing a number on me. I guess I just need to vent. My
parents are elderly and` live in the metroplex. I talk to them but they
dont understand. They dont see him but every six months or so. I have
called our local AD office but they werent helpful. I suppose there
arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here
gives me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry

Ronny:
Hey Brenda. :-) Sorry to hear you're having such a rough time of it. :-(

My nearly 84yo Mom repeats a lot of stuff too. Sometimes I just find
myself saying uh huh if I don't think that will cause problems.

I hope you can get outside some as spring comes along? That helps me. I
like to do just a little raised bed gardening or just get outside and
walk around a bit if the weather is prettier like it is today. But Mom
scared me some today. I came back in the back door,locked it and
couldn't find her anywhere in the house. Saw the front door was unlocked
and went out to look for her. Finally found her trying to get in the
back door. :-) I should of told her I was going out a while as she
remembers that most of the time. She wasn't real happy that she was
locked out! LoL

I am sorry to hear you local AD office didn't come up with much of any
help for you. :-( I've got to check more;but the only thing I know of so
far in my area is a once a week dinner at one of the Methodist churches.
For about $5 they provide a meal and a few hours care for AD people-so
that there caretakers can have a little time off to do needed things or
just have a little rest. (BTW,I'm up here in the Hopkins County/Sulphur
Springs area.)

This is a good ng. :-) I haven't been around much lately though. I post
in several ngs and have been studying a lot online about somethings that
interest me. Sometimes Mom gets jealous of me being online! LoL Will be
glad when it warms up a bit more and I can help her and watch her
outside more. She really does like to sit outside some when it's warm
and she can watch things and talk more.

Love,

Ronny
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Dennis P. Harris - 15 Feb 2004 23:53 GMT
> But Mom
> scared me some today. I came back in the back door,locked it and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> remembers that most of the time. She wasn't real happy that she was
> locked out! LoL

If she's this bad, it's probably best to NOT leave her anywhere
alone.
Ronny 1 - 19 Feb 2004 09:56 GMT
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Feb 15, 2004, 2:53pm (CST-3)
From: dpharris@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 13:50:00 -0600 (CST) in alt.support.alzheimers,
crafti1@webtv.net (Ronny 1) wrote:
But Mom scared me some today. I came back in the back door,locked it and
couldn't find her anywhere in the house. Saw the front door was unlocked
and went out to look for her. Finally found her trying to get in the
back door. :-) I should of told her I was going out a while as she
remembers that most of the time. She wasn't real happy that she was
locked out! LoL

If she's this bad, it's probably best to NOT leave her anywhere alone.
Dennis

Well,she doen't always do this and I don't remember now;but if she was
awake when I went out,then I should of told her I was going.  That does
help even when she forgets what I told her. It seems to keep here
calmer-like on some level she does remember and yet on another level she
doesn't. Hard to explain in words.

Today I went out when she was sleeping. Just went out to the mailbox and
then it was so pretty I decided to walk the 100 yards or so down to a
neighbor's house. That lady is in a nursing home now;but I wanted to see
if any of her daffodils were blooming yet. :-) So it was nice and most
of the time I could see both our front and back doors.

The good part,so far,is that Mom has only walked off from our place
onetime and that was last summer when she went to the neighbor's when I
was grocery shopping. Mostly she stays in the house;but sometimes she
likes to walk around the yard in pretty weather. That doesn't bother me
nearly so much now that her leg is healed up and she is a lot less
likely to fall. :-)

Love,

Ronny
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Tumbleweed - 19 Feb 2004 18:16 GMT
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Feb 15, 2004, 2:53pm (CST-3)
From: dpharris@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)
But Mom scared me some today. I came back in the back door,locked it and
couldn't find her anywhere in the house. Saw the front door was unlocked
and went out to look for her. Finally found her trying to get in the
back door. :-) I should of told her I was going out a while as she
remembers that most of the time. She wasn't real happy that she was
locked out! LoL

If she's this bad, it's probably best to NOT leave her anywhere alone.
Dennis

Well,she doen't always do this and I don't remember now;but if she was
awake when I went out,then I should of told her I was going.  That does
help even when she forgets what I told her. It seems to keep here
calmer-like on some level she does remember and yet on another level she
doesn't. Hard to explain in words.

Today I went out when she was sleeping. Just went out to the mailbox and
then it was so pretty I decided to walk the 100 yards or so down to a
neighbor's house. That lady is in a nursing home now;but I wanted to see
if any of her daffodils were blooming yet. :-) So it was nice and most
of the time I could see both our front and back doors.

The good part,so far,is that Mom has only walked off from our place
onetime and that was last summer when she went to the neighbor's when I
was grocery shopping. Mostly she stays in the house;but sometimes she
likes to walk around the yard in pretty weather. That doesn't bother me
nearly so much now that her leg is healed up and she is a lot less
likely to fall. :-)

But much more likely to wander off, I would imagine?

Love,

Ronny

I'm sure I read somewhere that a significant number of Az people die or are
injured when they wander off somewhere and get into trouble.

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Char - 15 Feb 2004 21:38 GMT
> Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
> of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry

Hi Brenda,

Welcome to the group.  You will find a lot of support & good advice here.

Always,

Char
Daphne - 16 Feb 2004 00:27 GMT
Brenda

I also live in Texas - Aledo, on the other side of Ft. Worth.  Are you
looking for a support group in Tyler?  I found this link that might
help, it lists a couple support groups:
http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/tyleralz/support.html

My father also found a phone support group through the Parker County
Alz. Association.  Maybe they have something like that near you?

Daphne

> Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
> of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Robert E. Lewis - 16 Feb 2004 23:05 GMT
> Brenda
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Daphne

I'm in small-town Texas too - about 75 miles south of Houston.  Not a lot of
AD resources here, either - I phoned the AD support center in Houston and
got a referral to the more-or-less local AD caregivers' support group (about
35-40 miles away, but worth the trip). They weren't listed in local phone
and community directories, etc. - I never would've found them without that
call.

--
Robert
Greg - 21 Feb 2004 15:00 GMT
One thing I've tried, after sadly getting tired of the repeated questions
was to make POSTERS, and pamphlets, scatter them around the house.
That way when my mother would normally re-ask

"What town is this?"

The answer would be all around her. It takes some explaining initially,
getting them to try and remember TWO things ..

1-  remember to READ the Poster whenever confusion, dementia or anxiety sets
in and

2- remember that what they may see or hear may not be real.

In fact, I put fact #2 on the posters themselves.
I'm a firm believer now that with INTENSE and I mean INTENSIVELY INTENSE
memory training and excercises that
alzheimers patients can indeed "learn" a fact and retain it.  My mother's
fact to remember is to simply

READ

one of the posters
whenever confusion sets in .  I know that teaching them just ONE fact
may seem like an impossibilty but it worked for me. It's overkill, kind of
like a college student repeating over and over for weeks before
the big test

"the capital of Omaha is Nebraska".
"the capital of Omaha is Nebraska".
"the capital of Omaha is Nebraska".
"the capital of Omaha is Nebraska".
"the capital of Omaha is Nebraska".
"the capital of Omaha is Nebraska".
"the capital of Omaha is Nebraska".

or
is it

"the capital of Nebraska is Omaha" ?

one of those two I hope.
That's why I don't teach geography.
Thank goodness.

> Hi, everyone.   My name is  Brenda and I live on Lake Palestine outside
> of Tyler, TX. I have been lurking for a while.  My husband was diagnosed
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> arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Evelyn Ruut - 21 Feb 2004 15:07 GMT
> One thing I've tried, after sadly getting tired of the repeated questions
> was to make POSTERS, and pamphlets, scatter them around the house.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> That's why I don't teach geography.
> Thank goodness.

Dear Greg,

I am sorry to tell you this, but the fix will most likely be temporary.

We tried that too, and it only worked for a little while.

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Tumbleweed - 21 Feb 2004 18:05 GMT
> > One thing I've tried, after sadly getting tired of the repeated questions
> > was to make POSTERS, and pamphlets, scatter them around the house.
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>
> We tried that too, and it only worked for a little while.

same with my dad, worked for a while, but thats better than nothing. I would
give him bits of paper with key facts on(such as where we were going or
whatever he was asking q's about that day). That would defintely help him
stop asking teh same q over and over...fora while!

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Dennis P. Harris - 21 Feb 2004 20:17 GMT
> I'm a firm believer now that with INTENSE and I mean INTENSIVELY INTENSE
> memory training and excercises that
> alzheimers patients can indeed "learn" a fact and retain it.

you're pissing into the wind, fella.  it's only going to last for
a very little while, and the her short term memory won't work at
all.  in the meantime, you're causing her a lot of stress by
trying to get her to do the impossible.

the best way to deal with this kind of behavior is to redirect
the demented person's attention.
Lee - 21 Feb 2004 23:30 GMT
wouldn't work here... my MIL really can't read any more, although if asked,
she will claim she does.

On the other hand, after almost 2 years, she recently learned my name, or so
I hear. When her OT showed up last week to speak with one of our home care
ladies, my MIL told her that I was away that day ...and she used my name!
The OT swears that she said it first... my MIL, I mean... not the OT.

I'm usually 'she' or 'her' ...'the one that lives here', or 'my husband's
girlfriend' LOL or whatever...

> One thing I've tried, after sadly getting tired of the repeated questions
> was to make POSTERS, and pamphlets, scatter them around the house.
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> > arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> > me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Greg - 22 Feb 2004 08:11 GMT
Dang (that's texas for DARN) .. you folks are good.  I guess I'm in the
early stages of dealing with the problem.
Raw recruit.   Perhaps all this works in the early stages, which it does.  I
can only imagine then what's ahead of me.
Your MIL .. Her not knowing your name .. that's kind of scary. Has to be a
cure for this, I'm sure everyone's already
researched then researched again. Now I feel like I'm only of the outskirts
of Baghdad, getting ready to make the
drive in.

> wouldn't work here... my MIL really can't read any more, although if asked,
> she will claim she does.
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> > > arent many resources available for me here in Tyler.   Coming here gives
> > > me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Lee - 22 Feb 2004 21:40 GMT
she was already a good year or more into the disorder, if not longer, (hard
to tell as there was so much denial) before I even met my partner... so was
pretty much beyond learning new things by that point.... I'm shocked that
she was able to use it even just the once

> Dang (that's texas for DARN) .. you folks are good.  I guess I'm in the
> early stages of dealing with the problem.
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> gives
> > > > me some support and I just wanted to thank yall,   Brenda Terry
Mary Gordon - 22 Feb 2004 17:17 GMT
Hey Greg, having been through this, your solution is logical but the
impact is very short lived.

A lot of people here tried leaving written information for loved ones
with AD, only to be mystified as to why it fails so miserably to
achieve the required effect (i.e. leaving written instructions for
working the TV or a note to tell them their lunch was in the fridge).
It is really important to realize that reading is a very complex skill
and requires abstract thinking - they don't just have to be able to
decode the symbols into sounds, but they have to be able to process
the words into comprehensible meaning, and understand the abstract
concepts of a thing having a proper name, and that the words have
meanings that may relate to THEM and require action. That is a lot of
logical analysis for an injured brain.

Many people with AD will retain the ability to read long after they
can no longer comprehend the meaning of the text. If your loved ones
has testing for the extent of their deficits, the psychometrist can
demonstrate this to you. Give the person a chunk of text to read out
loud, and they do fine. Tell them to read it and then do what it says
(i.e. "pick up the red book and put it on the dresser and then sit
down") and they will tank completely.

They can also lose concepts around sequences and symbols, so may be
able to read the names and numbers on a calendar, for example, and
have absolutely NO clue what it means, that Monday comes before
Tuesday, that February 25 is after February 24, that the matrix format
means that a week today is the square below the current date etc.

Like you, we certainly gave written prompts the college try, but it
didn't work well at all, or for very long - and we look back at our
attempts to write out basic instructions for working the VCR etc. and
shake our heads. We just didn't get that this wasn't about memory
problems, but the ability to think and reason.

Mary G.
Greg - 23 Feb 2004 11:39 GMT
Thx. She's not at that stage yet but now I know what to expect.

> Hey Greg, having been through this, your solution is logical but the
> impact is very short lived.
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>
> Mary G.
 
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