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Grief....

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Evelyn - 01 Nov 2009 11:04 GMT
Hi,

When we lose a loved one, there is usually some sense of loss and grief.
Everyone handles it differently, and for some the pain can linger a very
long time.    They often feel there is no place they can share what they are
feeling, and that they can't express it properly.

I think that those who attended a grief group, who found a place to express
and share their grief, were able to recover and move on with their lives,
with less debilitating effects.

If I were to lose a loved one, I would definitely consider attending such a
group.

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Evelyn

"Even as a mother protects with her life her only child, So with a boundless
heart let one cherish all living beings." --Sutta Nipata 1.8

Lynn Lynn - 02 Nov 2009 22:53 GMT
I received a letter from Hospice this week offering different kinds of
grief counseling so I am going to see what time the meetings are.

For myself - feels like everyone else is going ahead with their life and
I don't know where to begin - although I do have to admit some days I
feel I am making progress.

I have a very energetic day and then don't feel like doing anything the
next day.  That's kind of par for life in general though, isn't it?  

This newsgroup has been very helpful to me because it IS a place I  can
come and express how I feel and know that people listen and understand.

Lynn
Evelyn - 03 Nov 2009 02:31 GMT
>I received a letter from Hospice this week offering different kinds of
> grief counseling so I am going to see what time the meetings are.
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> Lynn

It was great for me too.   I was under tremendous pressure and stress.   I
don't honestly know how I did it.   It was very difficult.   There were some
great friends here who helped a lot.
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"Even as a mother protects with her life her only child, So with a boundless
heart let one cherish all living beings." --Sutta Nipata 1.8

weeks - 03 Nov 2009 12:45 GMT
"For myself - feels like everyone else is going ahead with their life and I
don't know where to begin"
Lynn, this was also me when my mother passed away in April.  I do believe
it's normal for us to grieve this way.  Others are simply dealing with their
loss in a different way.  Keeping busy is good but I know I had a difficult
time focusing on anything buy my mother's death.  It's been six months for
me.  Recently, I was shopping and passed the nightgowns and thought how nice
those would be to keep mom snug and warm...it's easy to forget they're
gone...
smiles,
Elise

>I received a letter from Hospice this week offering different kinds of
> grief counseling so I am going to see what time the meetings are.
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> Lynn
Lynn Lynn - 03 Nov 2009 13:31 GMT
Yes, that is it exactly....it is hard to focus.  My mind wanders all
over the place.

I wake up several times at night and my mind jumps from one thing to
another.  I'm exhausted when I get up in the morning!

I don't know what to fix for meals.  It's difficult to prepare some of
the food that Mom loved so much before she could not swallow.

It hasn't even been two months yet so I know I have to be patient and
let time heal.  The holidays will just slow it down a little!

Lynn
Adelle - 03 Nov 2009 14:01 GMT
> Yes, that is it exactly....it is hard to focus.  My mind wanders all
> over the place.
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> Lynn

Lynn,

You need to be more patient with yourself.

A friend proffered this when she lost her mom from cancer - one has to go
through a year, the first of each holiday, the first set of birthdays and
anniversaries without the loved one for it to stop feeling quite so fresh.
That first Thanksgiving, the first time you would have done something
particular with your loved one, the first time through all the reminders.
After the first time, it isn't quite so hard. That means a full year

Being Jewish, I am partial to our own mourning rituals where grief is a
process, not an event. One isn't considered a mourner until the person is
buried; grief just doesn't set in until there is nothing 'left' to be done
for the deceased. Then for the first week, people expect you to be unable to
do anything for yourself. The community brings you food and visits at your
house daily, and includes a special prayer the family says acknowledging God
and His(Her?) power and strength. In the prayer, there are places where the
community responds to specific lines and the prayer can only be said if
there is a quorum of at least 10 Jews. One needs the community support when
there is a death. After a week, you can go back to work, but there are other
things you don't do for 30 days (cut your hair, shave beards, go to parties
where there is dancing). Then, for a parent or child, you are considered a
mourner and continue to say that prayer at every synagogue service until
eleven months have passed since the loss. It is assumed you will still need
community 'support' through the responsive prayer, and having people come up
to you after services to chat about how your life is going for all those 11
months. It takes a long time to heal from loss and Judaism confirms and
supports that. Traditions that say, bury your dead and get on with your life
just don't take into account the fact that you need to process all the hurt
and loss.

And then we still get those moments during lifecycle events. We have lost
both my parents to cancer and my husband's father to dementia. Last spring
was our oldest child's graduation from high school; filled with all sorts of
bittersweet moments like Prom and all the graduation activities. It was
incredibly sad that three of the four grandparents had passed and the fourth
lives 400 miles away and wasn't healthy enough to travel at the time. It was
odd and empty to not share the milestone with more than one generation.

So Lynn, stop saying "you should be feeling this or doing that." There just
aren't any 'shoulds.' All there is, is the reality of what you feel at any
given moment.

Adelle
Lynn Lynn - 03 Nov 2009 16:01 GMT
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings.

I particularly like your last sentence "All there is, is the reality of
what you feel at any given moment."  How true that is and I shall
remember that.

This death has affected me more than my Dad, Sister and Brother-in-Law.
Perhaps because she is the last one to leave me.  I also was not a
caregiver for the others.

I will allow myself to go through all the emotions of grieving.  I'm
entitled to that!

Lynn
L_markham - 04 Nov 2009 16:43 GMT
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings.
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> Lynn

Hiya,
grief is really hard, especially when it's a mom that's gone. My mum
died a year ago in May and I still forget she's gone. I'll see
something she would like at a store and I'll think I ought to grab it
for Christmas for her and then I'll get that awful sharp pain that
goes right into your guts: she's not here now.
It passes and gets better. In the beginning, I think you live day by
day sometimes, and sometimes minute by minute. But eventually, the
ahrd days come less and less and the good days come more and more. You
adjust, though it's hard.
 
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