> We had this question here a few years ago. Most said that they wouldn't
> want to know. I was one of them. I guess there's what my daughter calls
> the beer truck scenario. You never know when you might just get hit by a
> beer truck and it's all over. Maybe when I get a little bit older I may
> change my mind but hopefully by then there will be a break through. For
> now I'll just enjoy the present.........June
>> We had this question here a few years ago. Most said that they wouldn't
>> want to know. I was one of them. I guess there's what my daughter
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> Thanks June. I think I agree with you. I haven't even discussed it with
> her yet, and maybe I won't.
Hi Larry,
I think that is a question you really might want to ask your doctor. But
here's my opinion for what it is worth. I have thought about this deeply.
There are tests now, that are supposedly the most accurate which involve
taking a sample of spinal fluid, and they are able to detect early
alzheimers from that..... even long before it is detectible by other means.
In the case of my mother in law, they did several things; a thyroid test, a
blood test, and a cat scan. Those three tests revealed that she did not
have a thyroid insufficiency, that she did not need vitamin B-12 ( a common
cause of forgetfulness ) and that she DID have some notable changes in the
brain that suggested it might be alzheimers.
They also did a test (administered by a psychiatrist) in which she was
asked to do certain simple sequences of actions. The doc told her to take
a sheet of paper, fold it in half, then into four, then to place it back on
the doctors desk. She did the first two steps and forgot the third one.
Others here have described similar tests which involved drawing a clock face
and drawing in the various times that were called out to them. If the
numbers aren't placed in properly or the hands of the clock are not placed
right for the time, it can be very revealing. A normal person would have
no problem at all with drawing a clock face, putting the numbers in the
right place, and indicating a particular time with drawing in the hands.
Is your wife on cholesterol medication? Lipitor, crestor, etc? They have
been strongly associated with memory issues. The effect goes away when the
Statin drug is discontinued for a while. Lots of doctors don't tell you
this when they put you on these drugs.
I think it is very important, in fact EXTREMELY so, that you are aware that
there are conditions that are not alzheimers at all, but present themselves
just like it. Normal Pressure Hydrocephalus for one, and others I have
already mentioned, thyroid and B-12 issues. Those three are completely
reversible!
There is also another issue that can come up with memory, and that is
vascular insufficiency. My father has this, and he had a stent put in his
carotid artery which has given him a few good years since then. The way he
first knew was through losing the sight of one eye. It hasn't really come
back either.
So that is why you need to get a doctor involved, even now. So it isn't a
case of not wanting to know if you are getting alzheimers, but a case of
finding out exactly what is the particular cause of the memory loss you are
dealing with.
If it is something reversible, what a shame to not find out!
So lets say for the sake of argument that the tests DO point to alzheimers.
There are medications out there right now that really do prolong the
person's function and slow the process. Wouldn't it be a shame to let the
person go downhill in memory loss, without even giving them a half a chance
to preserve their mind as long as possible?
I come down on the side of thorough early detection and early treatment with
modern medications. It is what I would want for myself or my husband.

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news. motzarella.org - 28 Mar 2009 15:09 GMT
>>> We had this question here a few years ago. Most said
>>> that they wouldn't want to know. I was one of them. I
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> early treatment with modern medications. It is what I
> would want for myself or my husband.
I agree with everything Evelyn said. Especially the early
detection and starting meds as early as possible to let them
work and delay more severe symptoms. Another thing would
be the possiblity of participating in clinical trials for up
and coming drugs/procedures. Even if you are on the non-med
side of it, if it turns out that the drugs work well most
clinical trials then give participants the meds when the trial
ends and long before FDA(USA) approval. Just be sure to get
the right Dr's involved. Ask around for good geriatricians,
maybe check the news for awards to Dr's for their knowledge of
AD. I would be devastated to learn I had AD but I would really
want to delay more severe symptoms.
Mare
June - 28 Mar 2009 16:25 GMT
> Hi Larry,
> "snip"
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> Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
> Breathe like the wind circling the world
Evelyn has a very valid point. However you say your wife is almost
obsessing with every memory lapse. If you feel this is just fearing the
worse rather then a real problem then my advice stands; if it's actually a
symptom of something more serious then of course you should seek a doctor's
advice.
I understand how your wife feels. My mother has had dementia for 16 years
and my father's mother had Alzheimer's. My father died at age 67 from
cancer so I don't know what would have been had he lived longer.
I too wonder when I forget a name of a person or a restaurant that I should
know. I can't remember other things too but my friends say I have the
memory of an elephant on recent events. I love Google when I forget lyrics
to an old song or that popular actor I see in a TV show and their name is
just on the tip of my tongue but I can't remember it. Sometimes we just get
distracted and can't remember. I'm a good one to multitask especially on
the computer and I'll forget what someone tells me while I'm busy. I feel
that's normal. Some forgetfulness is part of aging. I take a B-12
sublingual tablet a few times a week and I swear it helps me remember these
things.
As I said in my earlier post I'll worry about it when my family says I
should worry. Mom noticed her dementia starting when she forgot
appointments that she had made with the doctor or to get her car repaired
and had no idea that she had forgotten. She had always remembered before.
She took herself to a doctor for a diagnosis. At that time she lived in
another state. By the time 6 months had passed, she no longer knew she had
dementia---but we did.....June
Evelyn - 28 Mar 2009 17:53 GMT
>> Hi Larry,
>> "snip"
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> another state. By the time 6 months had passed, she no longer knew she
> had dementia---but we did.....June
Good points, June. My mother in law had no clue she had alzheimers, even
though she was told many times.... occasionally she would ask "what is wrong
with me?" We would reassure her that we were taking good care of her and
not to worry. The problem is that they forget that they forget.......

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