I haven't posted for awhile. Things have been pretty much status quo for
quite awhile. Then I went on vacation. While I was in Scotland Mom
developed a urinary tract infection. My brother was called and he called
me on my cell. It seems Mom had all the symptoms and definitely was in
need of shower. The nurse at the assisted living facility where Mom lives
is really helpful. Since Mom is in independent assisted living we are
responsible for getting her to the doctor. Maria, the nurse, told my
brother to get her to the doctor for evaluation. Which he did. She also
told Mom to take a shower which she did. I was amazed that she could so
easily get Mom to bathe!
Anyway the doctor prescribed this Exelon patch as well as antibiotics. I
think if I had been here she would not have been prescribed the patch. My
understanding is that it's for Alzheimer's dementia and not vascular
dementia which is what I believe Mom has. The 15th anniversary of Mom's
diagnosis of dementia will be next month.
I would be interested in feedback on this Exelon patch. I did request that
it be stopped because of the side effects and Mom still seems to have the
urinary tract infection. Maria also believes that the patch is not in
Mom's best interest and we sent in another urine sample to tested for a
specific infection.
Maria told me that another long time resident came back with this patch
after a visit to the same clinic. Hmmmmm ........June
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 30 Sep 2008 02:01 GMT
June, trust your gut feeling!
Gwen
I haven't posted for awhile. Things have been pretty much status quo for
quite awhile. Then I went on vacation. While I was in Scotland Mom
developed a urinary tract infection. My brother was called and he called
me on my cell. It seems Mom had all the symptoms and definitely was in
need of shower. The nurse at the assisted living facility where Mom lives
is really helpful. Since Mom is in independent assisted living we are
responsible for getting her to the doctor. Maria, the nurse, told my
brother to get her to the doctor for evaluation. Which he did. She also
told Mom to take a shower which she did. I was amazed that she could so
easily get Mom to bathe!
Anyway the doctor prescribed this Exelon patch as well as antibiotics. I
think if I had been here she would not have been prescribed the patch. My
understanding is that it's for Alzheimer's dementia and not vascular
dementia which is what I believe Mom has. The 15th anniversary of Mom's
diagnosis of dementia will be next month.
I would be interested in feedback on this Exelon patch. I did request that
it be stopped because of the side effects and Mom still seems to have the
urinary tract infection. Maria also believes that the patch is not in
Mom's best interest and we sent in another urine sample to tested for a
specific infection.
Maria told me that another long time resident came back with this patch
after a visit to the same clinic. Hmmmmm ........June
Evelyn - 30 Sep 2008 03:08 GMT
>I haven't posted for awhile. Things have been pretty much status quo for
>quite awhile. Then I went on vacation. While I was in Scotland Mom
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Maria told me that another long time resident came back with this patch
> after a visit to the same clinic. Hmmmmm ........June
June, if your mom seems better, more cognizant without the patch, then by
all means don't use it. I believe that we need to be good observers of our
loved ones, and think for them as an advocate. You are the closest one to
observe your mom on an everyday basis. The doctor only sees her for a few
minutes. You are probably the best one to decide.

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Evelyn
"Be wise, treat yourself, your mind, sympathetically, with loving kindness.
If you are gentle with yourself, you will become gentle with
hers." --Lama Thubten Yeshe
June - 30 Sep 2008 21:18 GMT
> I haven't posted for awhile. Things have been pretty much status quo for
> quite awhile. Then I went on vacation. While I was in Scotland Mom
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Maria told me that another long time resident came back with this patch
> after a visit to the same clinic. Hmmmmm ........June
Update....Mom has such an adverse reaction to the patch. The assisted
living nurse called last night and said that Mom should go to the emergency
room so I took her. After several tests everything seemed to be fine but
she can hardly stand up or walk without a great deal of assistance and she
has had a lot of nausea. I got her up this morning and got her dressed but
she only wanted to lay down. If she doesn't get better in the next few
days we may have to put her in the NH part of the facility. She has to be
able to walk down to the dining room for meals to be able to stay in
independent assisted living. Last Saturday she was fine, playing cards and
generally being herself then Sunday she really started getting weaker and
weaker. Mentally she seems the same. I thought maybe a stroke but
there's no sign of one. The emergency room doc surmised it was the Exelon
Patch.
Has anyone heard of this reaction? It seems so drastic for just a few days
of the patch but there doesn't seem to be any other explanation......June
Justin Thyme - 30 Sep 2008 22:04 GMT
>> I haven't posted for awhile. Things have been pretty much status quo for
>> quite awhile. Then I went on vacation. While I was in Scotland Mom
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> days of the patch but there doesn't seem to be any other
> explanation......June
I'm new here, an interested observer because a very close friend of mine has
advanced AD.
Here is a very brief excerpt from the result of a Google search, "adverse
reaction Exelon patch" (without the quotes):
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Based on the Health Canada review of data on quality, safety, and
effectiveness, Health Canada considers that the benefit/risk profile of
Exelon* Patch is favourable for the symptomatic treatment of patients with
mild to moderate dementia of the Alzheimer's type.
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But I strongly suggest that you do the research yourself if you have not
already decided that the patch is not recommended for your mother. You are
the best caregiver and the most observant.
Ken Bland
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 30 Sep 2008 23:45 GMT
> > I haven't posted for awhile. Things have been pretty much status quo for
> > quite awhile. Then I went on vacation. While I was in Scotland Mom
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Has anyone heard of this reaction? It seems so drastic for just a few days
> of the patch but there doesn't seem to be any other explanation......June
June,
A urinary tract infection can wreek havoc on the elderly.Make sure
she's on the right anti-biotic for that.My mom would get very
lathargic and want to sleep all the time when she had one.We finally
got her on a maintennance program of 1 pill a day.She never had
another one.My aunt died fron septis which started out as a U.T.I.So
please be very careful with that.Barb
June - 01 Oct 2008 00:53 GMT
> June,
> A urinary tract infection can wreek havoc on the elderly.Make sure
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> another one.My aunt died fron septis which started out as a U.T.I.So
> please be very careful with that.Barb
The hospital ran tests and all came back negative for UTI. They did a lot
of blood work too. I was afraid that the antibotic wasn't working but it
did work. The whole thing is so puzzling. Mom will be 89 years old in a
few weeks so I expect some decline but this has been so fast.......
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 01 Oct 2008 05:49 GMT
> <deerwoodflo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> did work. The whole thing is so puzzling. Mom will be 89 years old in a
> few weeks so I expect some decline but this has been so fast.......
June,
It sucks doesn't it.My mom was 87.We were so lucky with her.She had
to have been one of the easiest to take care of.I wish you all the
strenghth you need.barb
DJ - 02 Oct 2008 00:10 GMT
Dad has had many UTIs that have sometimes been so bad as to make me think he
had a stroke; i.e., VERY, VERY confused. Dad was also on the Exelon patch
and Namenda (Dad's psychiatrist said Exelon and Namenda are almost always
used together). Both drugs are very expensive even under Medicare part D,
and I didn't see that Dad was getting much benefit from either. Eventually
Dad's primary physician felt he was taking too many medications, some
without noticeable benefit, and so took him off the Exelon and Namenda.
As to your mother, I agree with what some others have said: go with your gut
feeling. If she is sick due to the Exelon then her quality of life is likely
diminished regardless of any positive effect. As Dad's primary doctor tells
me, with every drug there is a trade off between positive and negative
effects. The good must outweigh the bad for the drug to be the right choice.
David
>I haven't posted for awhile. Things have been pretty much status quo for
>quite awhile. Then I went on vacation. While I was in Scotland Mom
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Maria told me that another long time resident came back with this patch
> after a visit to the same clinic. Hmmmmm ........June
Dennis P. Harris - 02 Oct 2008 07:00 GMT
> If she is sick due to the Exelon then her quality of life is likely
> diminished regardless of any positive effect.
Not only that, but her mother has a *vascular* dementia, and
Exelon is not effective for that. If I was responsible for
dealing with this patient's docs, the one that prescribed the
Exelon would be off the doctor list, since he's obviously
clueless about demented patients.
DJ - 04 Oct 2008 01:22 GMT
Well as I said in a previous posting, medicine is supposed to be a science;
in
fact it's Voodoo where (too often) the docs walk around you shaking a drug
company
supplied rattle and chanting Latin medical phrases.
>> If she is sick due to the Exelon then her quality of life is likely
>> diminished regardless of any positive effect.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Exelon would be off the doctor list, since he's obviously
> clueless about demented patients.
June - 08 Oct 2008 14:49 GMT
> Well as I said in a previous posting, medicine is supposed to be a
> science; in
> fact it's Voodoo where (too often) the docs walk around you shaking a drug
> company
> supplied rattle and chanting Latin medical phrases.
I agree, since all medicines have been stopped, Mom is back to her pre
Exelon Patch self. Bro took her out to eat and she's getting around pretty
good. The assisted living facility said that they didn't do anything
special for her that they wouldn't do for any resident and there wouldn't be
any extra charges. That's good news since her money will become an issue
if her bills go up. She has a doctor app. later this month and I think I
will cancel it. Doctors seem to think that they should prescribe
'Something' and she is doing fine or least as good as it gets these
days.........
EddyJean - 04 Oct 2008 05:50 GMT
Re: Exelon Patch
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2008, 10:00pm (PDT-1)
From: NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:10:05 -0500 in alt.support.alzheimers, "DJ"
<djharrid@bellsouth.net> wrote:
If she is sick due to the Exelon then her quality of life is likely
diminished regardless of any positive effect.
Not only that, but her mother has a *vascular* dementia, and Exelon is
not effective for that. If I was responsible for dealing with this
patient's docs, the one that prescribed the Exelon would be off the
doctor list, since he's obviously clueless about demented patients.
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I haven't met a doctor yet who has any clue to the cause of dementia.
It's all guesswork.
EddyJean
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