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brianna_1938 - 15 Sep 2008 03:20 GMT
hello all,

We all have dinner together and as soon as he finishes he waits awhile. Then
he wants to go to dinner.  He tells us he is hungry.  Does he forget he ate
or does he forget that he is full?
Lately, when we take him out, (he is in a wheelchair, due to a stroke about 5
years ago.) he could always pick his feet up when we wheeled him around but
not he seems to drag his feet.  Does that mean he is getter weaker physically?
The wheelchair does have attachments so we will have to put them on when we
take him out. He talks to us but sometimes does not make any sense at all.
Is this normal for an Alzheimers patient.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Bri
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 15 Sep 2008 04:28 GMT
> hello all,
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Bri,
 He forgets it all.The feet dragging could also be that he is
forgetting to pick them up or he just doesn't realize he is supposed
to.All of this is part of the disease.My mom would talk nonsense to me
but i am sure it made all the sense in the world to her.I feel so bad
for you guys.My mom passed in january.She was 87.This is all so hard.i
will pray for you all to have strength.Barb
brianna_1938 - 15 Sep 2008 17:29 GMT
>> hello all,
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>for you guys.My mom passed in january.She was 87.This is all so hard.i
>will pray for you all to have strength.Barb

Thank you for your prayers. I know it helps us with this disease. I pray
every night for strength that only God can give.
My brother-in-law is only 71 but he had a stroke 5 years ago and that's what
brought this on.

Bri
Evelyn - 15 Sep 2008 13:58 GMT
> hello all,
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> Bri

All normal, Bri.   My mother in law forgot we ordered dinner and when the
waitress brought it to us she exclaimed that this was an amazing restaurant
where they bring you a dinner and you never even ordered it!   Also,
eventually she couldn't walk at all without falling down.

What you need to do when he asks for dinner over again, is tell him that "we
will eat in a few minutes" and guaranteed he will forget all about that too,
but it will calm him just for that moment.    It took me a long time to
realize that arguing what your reality is, will get you absolutely nowhere
and will only upset the person.   Better to just placate him any way you
can, then do what you know is the right thing.

Skillful caregivers learn to use their forgetfulness to their (and the
patient's) best advantage.

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Best Regards,
Evelyn

“Be wise, treat yourself, your mind, sympathetically, with loving kindness.
If you are gentle with yourself, you will become gentle with
hers.”   --Lama Thubten Yeshe

brianna_1938 - 15 Sep 2008 17:33 GMT
>> hello all,
>>
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>Skillful caregivers learn to use their forgetfulness to their (and the
>patient's) best advantage.

His behavior is much better.  The doctor gave him a medication but I don't
know what it is called.  But it sure has calmed him down.  

He does seem to forget he eats and will ask when do we eat again.  But we do
try to go along with him and that satisfies him.  Better than arguing.
My sister does get very tired of it because sometimes she is up half the
night with him.  He wakes up in the middle of the night and starts shaving or
brushing his teeth.  He thinks it is morning.

Thank you for your response,
Bri
Evelyn - 15 Sep 2008 17:48 GMT
>>> hello all,
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> Thank you for your response,
> Bri

Hi Bri,

Yes, they often do get their days and nights mixed up and it can be
maddening.

We had only a little of that, and fortunately we were able to get it under
control.    For us it wasn't a really bad problem, just a small one.    We
started giving her a Tylenol PM at bedtime along with her other meds, and we
also did our best not to let her nap too much during the day.   If she slept
in the day, she'd be more awake at night.    As I said, we got it resolved
somewhat quickly, but every one is different and for some it might be more
difficult than it was for us.

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Best Regards,
Evelyn

“Be wise, treat yourself, your mind, sympathetically, with loving kindness.
If you are gentle with yourself, you will become gentle with
hers.”   --Lama Thubten Yeshe

sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 15 Sep 2008 22:15 GMT
Bri, when my father-in-law was at his younger son's house, Ray would get
Dad's breakfast before he got his own.  After Dad finished, Ray would get
his ready and sit in the TV room to eat while watching TV.  One morning, Dad
walked by the door and asked,"What does someone have to do around here to
get something to eat?"  Ray asked if he was hungery and he said no, he just
wondered!
Gwen

hello all,

We all have dinner together and as soon as he finishes he waits awhile. Then
he wants to go to dinner.  He tells us he is hungry.  Does he forget he ate
or does he forget that he is full?
Lately, when we take him out, (he is in a wheelchair, due to a stroke about
5
years ago.) he could always pick his feet up when we wheeled him around but
not he seems to drag his feet.  Does that mean he is getter weaker
physically?
The wheelchair does have attachments so we will have to put them on when we
take him out. He talks to us but sometimes does not make any sense at all.
Is this normal for an Alzheimers patient.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Bri
EddyJean - 18 Sep 2008 17:22 GMT
Bro-in-law  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2008, 2:20am (PDT+7)
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hello all,
We all have dinner together and as soon as he finishes he waits awhile.
Then he wants to go to dinner. He tells us he is hungry. Does he forget
he ate or does he forget that he is full?
Lately, when we take him out, (he is in a wheelchair, due to a stroke
about 5 years ago.) he could always pick his feet up when we wheeled him
around but not he seems to drag his feet. Does that mean he is getter
weaker physically? The wheelchair does have attachments so we will have
to put them on when we take him out. He talks to us but sometimes does
not make any sense at all. Is this normal for an Alzheimers patient.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Bri
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Hi Bri:
It's a guess but think BIL dragging his feet could possibly be both:
memory and/or muscle weakness. This virus attacks the muscles and
nerves. If your BIL made sense before he went into the hospital but
doesn't after a few days in the hospital, something must have occurred
to cause the change outside of Azheimers. If I were your sister, I'd
send, or fax, a letter to the hospital's Records Department, including
his hospital ID number, requesting his records of the time he was a
patient at the hospital. Be sure to include specific dates and
signature. From this, you should be able to see what medications the
hospital gave him or what else they might have done.  From your local
library, ask for the Physicians' Desk Reference.  From this, you should
be able to check for side effects of the drugs given him at the
hospital. Since BIL is calm after his hospital release but not before,
which drug calmed him down?

Best wishes,
EddyJean

 
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