Bri, you can believe all this stuff if you want to, but it is foolishness to
believe that my taking antidepressants can harm another person who talks to
me, or sees me.
And saying that all antidepressant should be banned is pure silliness.  I
take an antidepressant because I need it.  If I don't, I cry at the drop of
a hat and can't seem to find a place to stop.  When I take it, I very seldom
cry.  Chrons disease is not caused by antidepressants.  It is a stomach,
bowel problem!
Gwen

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news.chi.sbcglobal.net wrote:

Thank you for your feed back.  My brother-in-law does not take anti-
depressants.  He takes Seroquel and it is our understanding the medication
helps him to combat agressiveness. My sister takes very good care of him and
he is not in a nursing home. We need to talk to the doctor about this
medication and find out more about it.
I will do research on Crohn's disease and see if he has any of those
symptoms.

Thanks again,
Bri

Bri, please pay no mind to the troll.   She isn't even suggesting that
people who take antidepressants get crohns disease, but the people who
are in the vicinity of someone taking anti depressants.   Needless to
say, it is a strange and unscientific idea, and something that is just
her delusion.  Pay no mind to it.  You'll be a lot happier.  Listen to
your doctor instead.

Evelyn

There is no question that anti-depressants do help.   I acknowledge that,
but I also know the harm they do to others known to the stmulant taker.   I
am consistent because I am certain.   I do not discuss other illnesses,
because I usually know nothing about them.   But crohns disease does not
fall in the category of a medical causes, so it must be observed astutely.
The key sometimes is that when a  person feels pain or oddity when thinking
of a certain person they know, they can be certain that is crohns, if it is
consistent.   Only problem is stress is also a factor when crohns appears,
and any situation or person can set the person off with pain and damage.
It really must be experienced to believe, but most persons  will not even
try to identify the person unknowingly causing them the illness, a free and
absolute solution.
I am not selling anything, in the case of crohns and ulcerative colitis, the
cure is free and available with persistance.     I do care very much about
this, because so many people and more to come will be confined to nursing
homes and they have a right to be in a safe place.
The administrators, whom I thought really cared about the people are so
hardened to death, their attitude is nonchalant.
Gail Michael     W write later.

Re: Brother-in-law

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Jul 18, 2008, 6:49pm (PDT+2)
From: kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net (news.chi.sbcglobal.net)
You asked for feedback, and this is my rejpititious feedback. Not
pleasant to hear, but I see it in the nursing home I visit. You can
be pretty certain your brother in law's ankle is hurting and he cannot
sort out his condition. To everybody's consternation, I will repeat
what is probably taking place. Some people are receiving
anti-depressants and some are not in the nursing home.
Anti-depressants and all stimulants have the capacity to harm innocent
people by a mind/body connection. When the people that take
anti-depressants talk to or observe another patient constantly, there is
the uncanny ability for their anti-depressant to send harm to an
innocent person. Strange and weird, that is apparently a symptom of
crohns disease, which your brother in law would not experience except
for the anti-depressant use in the nursing home. One male nurse and
one patient had ankle pain for no apparent reason in the home I visit,
The nurse quit his job when I told him it was a patient observing him
constantly at his desk duties by sitting close by. The following
week, he said the doctor diagnosed his condition as Crohns disease.
The other, a woman who was not there for ill health, just an older woman
who made herself so visible, and suffered constantly with a swollen
stomach finally could not walk and said her feet or ankles hurt.
They took her to the hospital and brought her back and she stays in bed
all the time with tubes for feeding. The administrator said at the
time she went to the hospital, she was resigned to dying. I knew
however, if she got out of the nursing home, it could be the break she
needed. I am angry at the nursing home for giving anti-depressants
to some residents when they should be banned entirely. Another in law of
ours was in a nursing home with alzheimers in addition to not being able
to care for herself, and she had an obstruction that required an
operation. She lived a short time afterward. I was not aware at
the time that anti-depressants were used everywhere, but now know this
and I see the consequences, where the administrators think everything is
a natural progression of illness. IT IS NOT. I am writing so
that you may understand your brother in law better when he complains of
his ankles. It is VERY LIKELY that his ankles are hurting. What
to do? That is my eternal question. No one would suffer these
"extra" condition if they would ban the anti-depressants.
Now everyone can dispute me as is usually the case, but I maintain it is
so, and your brother in law desterves understanding. Gail Michael

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Gail:
I don't understand it but you've been consistent from the start and care
about your fellowman. While I've not had good experiences with
anti-depressants, I do think some people are helped.There are unsolved
mysteries in the world and feel nowadays, anything can happen.  As the
saying goes, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Thank you for
reporting it.
EddyJean

Hello Gail,

My brother-in-law is at home.  He gets the best of care here.  My sister
makes sure he is bathed, fed and takes his medication.  She makes sure he
gets a haircut and does not miss his doctor's appointment.  He is very
fortunate but since he does have this dreadful disease, he seems
unappreciative.  He is mean, foul mouth and paranoid all the time.
We pray everyday for his well being.  He is comfortable at home and as long
as she can care for him, he will stay at home.  I try to help as much as I
can.  But pretty soon, I am going to have surgery on my knee but I won't be
down for a long time.  I will stay in bed and be out of the way.
Thank you, Gail,
Bri