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news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 11 Jul 2008 20:07 GMT
HEIL HITLER

The holocaust is alive and well in the nursing homes.   No guns, no
gas.   Only Crohns Disease produced by the use of anti-depressants and the
mind connection.     Deadly combination for the resident not on an
anti-depressant.

Gail Michael
Bud - 11 Jul 2008 21:06 GMT
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> Gail Michael

Heh, tho't I had you on my s-list. Well, we will take care of that now.

Plonk... in all good humor. ;-)
news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 11 Jul 2008 21:31 GMT
Bud,
I expect all comments and you are welcome to put me on any list you have.
I hope no one has crohns, but it is becoming a plague.
Gail

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> Plonk... in all good humor. ;-)
Adelle - 11 Jul 2008 22:08 GMT
Gee, there was just an article in the Boston Globe this week about
researchers identifying over 100 genes which are contributory towards
developing Crohn's. Anti-depressants were never mentioned.

www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2008/07/07/genetic_haul_lifts_hopes_on_croh...

And as someone who lost most of her family in the Shoah/Holocaust, I am
incredibly offended by your casual use of the Nazi greeting and analogy.
Plonk.

Adelle

> Bud,
> I expect all comments and you are welcome to put me on any list you have.
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>> Plonk... in all good humor. ;-)
news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 12 Jul 2008 00:54 GMT
Adelle,
I am terribly sorry you were offended.   That would never be my intention.
I only wished to bring my message on strongly as I have a loved one in a
nursing home and her condition is terrible, causing me untold anxiety.   The
administrator (owner ) of the home is exasperated with me as I keep at the
anti-depressant subject.   About the holocaust, there is one woman there who
survived the holocaust, and is in the same nursing home and she used to
stand in the small lobby (only 40 people in the home) and complain
constantly about her stomach being swollen and not feeling well and not
being able to eat much.   She was very visual to everyone.   I thought she
was a kvetch, until one day I realized she really does not feel well, and I
didn't think she deserves to suffer in the home after being in the
holocaust.   Well, she finally got to a bad stage, and now she lays in bed
constantly with tubes in her.    The crohns affected her legs and she
couldn't walk.   The administrator had the nerve to say, I think_________ is
resigned to dying.      I did not expect her to die if only she would get
away from all the attention she received.    But she never understood when I
said don't talk to everyone.   But the point is how dare the orthodox owner
say she is ready to expire, when she has it in her hands to let her be well.
Another comment by the administrator "Everybody has to die sometime"
Don't we all know that, but not by her hands, but by G-d/s   Sorry to be so
talkative and blunt, but m heart is aching for the people that must be in
the nursing home.    That can be any of us so I feel it important that the
homes ban all the anti-depressants.    They are an elective med, and if no
one is on them, no one will need them.   They have a psychologist there
talking to the people, who needs a psychologist himself.
Forgive me, please
Gail

> Gee, there was just an article in the Boston Globe this week about
> researchers identifying over 100 genes which are contributory towards
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>>> Plonk... in all good humor. ;-)
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 11 Jul 2008 22:06 GMT
Crohns is diagnosed more, but its still fairly uncommon - approx 1 in
544 or 0.18% of the population.
Although the exact cause of Crohn’s disease is unknown, autoimmune and
genetic factors are thought to play a role. Up to 5% of those with the
disease have one or more affected relatives; Jewish ancestry is also a
risk factor (its 2-3 times more common amongst people with Jewish
heritage, and very rare among people with African heritage). In terms
of age, Crohn’s disease is most prevalent in adults ages 20 to 40 -
NOT in the nursing home crowd, you will note.

M.
news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 12 Jul 2008 00:35 GMT
I think you are wrong on the statistics   But the cause is as I stated.
Not genetic, etc.   Maybe it seems like more Jewish people have it, but that
is because their friends or relatives are often on an anti-depressant, so
they inherit Crohns.   Any age is susceptible.   Indians (from India) seems
(as far as I know) to be unlikely to have Crohns. They do not use drugs
barely.    Not marijuana, which I read grows freely in India, but nobody
bothers with it.   I do not know how much into anti-depressants people of
African heritage are. I am 100% certain of my theory, as I have seen it
often and experience it.
I can give a world example, but I do not feel free to do so.
Gail

Crohns is diagnosed more, but its still fairly uncommon - approx 1 in
544 or 0.18% of the population.
Although the exact cause of Crohn’s disease is unknown, autoimmune and
genetic factors are thought to play a role. Up to 5% of those with the
disease have one or more affected relatives; Jewish ancestry is also a
risk factor (its 2-3 times more common amongst people with Jewish
heritage, and very rare among people with African heritage). In terms
of age, Crohn’s disease is most prevalent in adults ages 20 to 40 -
NOT in the nursing home crowd, you will note.

M.
June - 12 Jul 2008 15:15 GMT
This is the disgusting and obnoxious of the Trolls to date and that's saying
quite a bit.  Plonk!!!!
Evelyn - 12 Jul 2008 19:47 GMT
> This is the disgusting and obnoxious of the Trolls to date and that's saying
> quite a bit.  Plonk!!!!

Good for you.   Wish I could follow suit.

I'm using google to post these days and there is no way to plonk the
crackpots or nutters.   I am just learning to develop a thicker
skin.... but the killfile worked lots better :-)

Evelyn
news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 12 Jul 2008 21:17 GMT
Sorry about your killfile.   I do not like to see anyone distressed
needlessly.
Gail

On Jul 12, 10:15 am, "June" <nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is the disgusting and obnoxious of the Trolls to date and that's
> saying
> quite a bit. Plonk!!!!

Good for you.   Wish I could follow suit.

I'm using google to post these days and there is no way to plonk the
crackpots or nutters.   I am just learning to develop a thicker
skin.... but the killfile worked lots better :-)

Evelyn
Evelyn - 13 Jul 2008 02:00 GMT
On Jul 12, 4:17 pm, "news.chi.sbcglobal.net"
<kureforcro...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Sorry about your killfile.   I do not like to see anyone distressed
> needlessly.
> Gail

Then considering how few of us enjoy your posts, and are distressed
enough to killfile you, perhaps you might spare us your cockamamy
ideas?

Evelyn
news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 13 Jul 2008 04:10 GMT
Evelyn

I do not enjoy writing about crohns neither, but it is a subject that needs
to be known.    I would be happy if G-d would revoke the harm of
anti-depressants.   In the meantime, I pray that G-d would command the
administrators of the nursing homes to return from their ininquity.  They
are killing people needlessly.
Will I ever be successful.   I doubt it.    Anyway, just ignore me.    I
understand the dfficulty in reading such an unpleasant post, but I am
experiencing it,     It is not to make anyone feel guilty, as I have done
much worse when I didn't know better.
Gail
 
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