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DJ - 05 May 2008 23:46 GMT
My dad is 80 years old and stage 4 AD. More and more frequently says he
feels "weird" or "really strange". He says he doesn't hurt anywhere. I
question him further and he says he really can't describe it except to say
that he feels "disconnected from reality", whatever that means. Is something
like this common with AD and if so is there anything to be done about it? Or
could it be something else altogether? "I feel strange" doesn't give the
doctor much to go on.

Thanks,

David
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 06 May 2008 23:19 GMT
Hi Dave, I very strongly suspect he's developing agnosia, which caused
by brain damage. As you know, as AD progresses, the person starts to
get lost even in familiar areas, and starts to have trouble
recognizing people. Their ability to recognize objects, faces, places
etc. starts to disappear. Sometimes, they think the people they love
or the home they live in have been somehow replaced with artful
copies. Like...it looks like her, but it is an imposter,...and it is
sort of like my house, but its a diabolical copy. In the early stages,
things just don't look quite right.

Imagine living in a world, where everything looks odd to you. Now
layer on top of that your loss of short term memory, where you aren't
really sure how you got where you are, and can't get a grip on what is
going to happen next. Your sense of time is all distorted. Have you
been here five minutes or five days? You are surrounded by things that
are starting to make no sense to you. Everything is starting to be
swirling jumble you can't get your bearings in.

That would make you feel disconnected from reality - you'd feel
wierdly disconnected from what was going on - everything would be
disorienting.

If you want the honest truth, I don't think there is anything they can
do about it. Its a function of a damaged brain.
Here is a description of different forms of agnosia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosia
When  you read other descriptions of agnosia, they sometimes make the
error of  describing this as rare. Its not rare at all across the
population, since its extremely common in almost all dementias, and as
we all know, something like 50% us will have some sort of dementia if
we survive into our mid 80's - and we'll also have developed at least
one kind of agnosia. It's only "rare" in younger healthy adults.

M.
DJ - 07 May 2008 00:00 GMT
Mary,

I've suspected it's AD related. Just today he said he was confused. I asked
what he meant, how he was confused, but he couldn't describe it. I'm
wondering if some of the AD meds would help him FEEL less confused. He is
taking Namenda now. His doctor said something about him starting Exelon too.
I know that there is no reversal, I just want him to feel comfortable.

David
Evelyn Ruut - 07 May 2008 01:38 GMT
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Hi David,

My mother in law used to say "I worry..... I worry" when we couldn't
understand what on earth she was worrying about!  She couldn't seem to
articulate to us what she was worrying about either.

Then she would also sometimes say she was "nervous."   We didn't know what
she meant by that either.   Of course, soon enough it became evident that
she was experiencing some serious deficits.   So in her particular case,
these issues came up early, before she was even diagnosed.

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Best Regards,

Evelyn

Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 07 May 2008 18:04 GMT
My mother in law also had a lot of anxiety. She was actually afraid
she was going crazy. She was much more aware of her spotty deficits
than some people in early AD - on a bad day, she'd do things (like pay
the same bill twice, write incoherent notes etc.) and on a good day,
she'd see the evidence and be appalled, and just not understand how
she could have done whatever it was.

M

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