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ironjustice - 11 Apr 2008 13:14 GMT
Brain Lesions More Common Than Previously Thought
April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am · Filed under Medical News, Neurology /
Neuroscience

New research shows cerebral microbleeds, which are lesions in the
brain, are more common in people over 60 than previously thought. The
study is published in the April 1, 2008, issue of Neurology(R), the
medical journal of the American Academy of Neurology.

"We found a three-to-four-fold higher overall prevalence of cerebral
microbleeds compared to other studies," according to study author
Monique M.B. Breteler, MD, PhD, with the Erasmus MC University Medical
Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. "These findings are of major
importance since cerebral microbleeds likely reflect cerebrovascular
pathology and may be associated with an increased risk of
cerebrovascular problems."

Cerebral microbleeds are lesions that can be seen on brain scans, such
as an MRI brain scan. The lesions are deposits of iron from red blood
cells that have presumably leaked out of small brain vessels.

For the study, 1,062 healthy men and women who were an average age of
70 underwent an MRI to scan for the presence of cerebral microbleeds.
Of the participants, 250 were found to have cerebral microbleeds.

The study found overall prevalence of cerebral microbleeds was high
and increased with age from 18 percent in people age 60 to 69 to 38
percent in people over age 80. People with the e4 allele of the APOE
gene, which is known to increase the risk of Alzheimer's disease and
of cerebral amyloid angiopathy, had significantly more microbleeds
than people without this genetic variant.

"We also found that the risk factors for cerebral microbleeds appear
to vary according to the location of the microbleed," said Breteler.
"Our results show people with high blood pressure and a history of
smoking had microbleeds in a different location in the brain than
people with the APOE e4 allele, suggesting different causes for
microbleeds in different locations."

The study was supported by the Erasmus MC University Medical Center
and Erasmus University Rotterdam, the Netherlands Organization for
Scientific Research, and the Netherlands Organization for Health
Research and Development.

The American Academy of Neurology, an association of more than 21,000
neurologists and neuroscience professionals, is dedicated to improving
patient care through education and research. A neurologist is a doctor
with specialized training in diagnosing, treating and managing
disorders of the brain and nervous system such as stroke, Alzheimer's
disease, epilepsy, Parkinson's disease, and multiple sclerosis.

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Carole - 12 Apr 2008 12:02 GMT
Brain Lesions More Common Than Previously Thought
April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am · Filed under Medical News, Neurology /
Neuroscience

New research shows cerebral microbleeds, which are lesions in the
brain, are more common in people over 60 than previously thought. The
study is published in the April 1, 2008, issue of Neurology(R), the
medical journal of the American Academy of Neurology.

Carole > If you are trying to say that too much iron is the the cause of
brain lesions, I don't think the article is saying that.
In fact according to cellsalt theory, ferrum phos is the remedy for drying
up nosebleeds. I don't know why you are so fixated on people having too much
iron. There is a disease where some people genetically are inclined to build
up too much iron but these people are in the minority.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net

"We found a three-to-four-fold higher overall prevalence of cerebral
microbleeds compared to other studies," according to study author
Monique M.B. Breteler, MD, PhD, with the Erasmus MC University Medical
Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. "These findings are of major
importance since cerebral microbleeds likely reflect cerebrovascular
pathology and may be associated with an increased risk of
cerebrovascular problems."

Cerebral microbleeds are lesions that can be seen on brain scans, such
as an MRI brain scan. The lesions are deposits of iron from red blood
cells that have presumably leaked out of small brain vessels.

For the study, 1,062 healthy men and women who were an average age of
70 underwent an MRI to scan for the presence of cerebral microbleeds.
Of the participants, 250 were found to have cerebral microbleeds.

The study found overall prevalence of cerebral microbleeds was high
and increased with age from 18 percent in people age 60 to 69 to 38
percent in people over age 80. People with the e4 allele of the APOE
gene, which is known to increase the risk of Alzheimer's disease and
of cerebral amyloid angiopathy, had significantly more microbleeds
than people without this genetic variant.

"We also found that the risk factors for cerebral microbleeds appear
to vary according to the location of the microbleed," said Breteler.
"Our results show people with high blood pressure and a history of
smoking had microbleeds in a different location in the brain than
people with the APOE e4 allele, suggesting different causes for
microbleeds in different locations."

The study was supported by the Erasmus MC University Medical Center
and Erasmus University Rotterdam, the Netherlands Organization for
Scientific Research, and the Netherlands Organization for Health
Research and Development.

The American Academy of Neurology, an association of more than 21,000
neurologists and neuroscience professionals, is dedicated to improving
patient care through education and research. A neurologist is a doctor
with specialized training in diagnosing, treating and managing
disorders of the brain and nervous system such as stroke, Alzheimer's
disease, epilepsy, Parkinson's disease, and multiple sclerosis.

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Evelyn Ruut - 12 Apr 2008 13:20 GMT
> Brain Lesions More Common Than Previously Thought
> April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am · Filed under Medical News, Neurology /
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Carole
> www.cellsalts.net

Carole,

He is a long term troll on all the usenet groups, who is fixated on iron.
Definitely a sick guy.  killfile him like most people do and don't take a
thing he says seriously.
Signature

Best Regards,

Evelyn

never@millions.com - 12 Apr 2008 16:23 GMT
>> Brain Lesions More Common Than Previously Thought
>> April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am · Filed under Medical News, Neurology /
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>Definitely a sick guy.  killfile him like most people do and don't take a
>thing he says seriously.

But you should carry a magnet around just in case.

Donn
timmythesaint - 12 Apr 2008 17:12 GMT
Hi Carole,

as all the others have said, the man is an idiot who would save
everybody a lot of time if he just went and shot himself, but he
won't. He thinks he is a genius and in fact he is a fool. I know (from
experience) that he is annoying and doesn't know his arse from a hole
in the ground, but it really isn't worth reacting. It has no effect.
In my experience it is best to just ignore him. He has no effect on
our lives if he is ignored. I know that it is difficult, but you will
(I promise), sleep better.

Tim
Bud - 13 Apr 2008 21:24 GMT
>> Definitely a sick guy.  killfile him like most people do and don't take a
>> thing he says seriously.
>
> But you should carry a magnet around just in case.

LOL!
Carole - 14 Apr 2008 19:21 GMT
> > "ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:33b82ae7-55a5-402e-a958-1b65d45bf74a@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> > Brain Lesions More Common Than Previously Thought
> > April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am · Filed under Medical News, Neurology /
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Evelyn

Thanks evelyn, its like a dripping tap and eventually you get up to turn it
off.
He certainly is annoying because he just doesn't make sense.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net
ironjustice - 12 Apr 2008 14:53 GMT
On Apr 12, 4:02 am, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote:I don't
know why you are so fixated on people having too much
iron. <<

Maybe that is why you don't understand the posts I make .. ?

You seem to not understand the .. theory .. behind it ..

You seem to **understand** the theory .. ? .. behind .. cell
salts .. ?

Maybe you should stick with cell salts .. ? .. and NOT 'comment' on
stuff you do not .. understand .. ?

The article said .. the lesions are .. iron ..

Did you understand those few words .. ?

Did ya .. ?

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> Brain Lesions More Common Than Previously Thought
> April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am · Filed under Medical News, Neurology /
[quoted text clipped - 64 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Carole - 14 Apr 2008 19:17 GMT
On Apr 12, 4:02 am, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote:I don't
know why you are so fixated on people having too much
iron. <<

Maybe that is why you don't understand the posts I make .. ?

Carole > Yes, you're right. I don't understand the posts you make. People
need iron. People become anemic if they don't get enough iron and they get
very tired and rundown.

You seem to not understand the .. theory .. behind it ..

Carole > The theory behind what? As I said some people are genetically
inclined to build up iron and it becomes a life threatening situation. But
they are a medically diagnosed group amongst the population. The general
population can often be deficient.

You seem to **understand** the theory .. ? .. behind .. cell
salts .. ?

Maybe you should stick with cell salts .. ? .. and NOT 'comment' on
stuff you do not .. understand .. ?

Carole > I understand a little about iron, but you seem to think that iron
is a poison that people should avoid like the plague.

The article said .. the lesions are .. iron ..

Carole > Do you know what a lesion is? In iriodology terms, there are
different types of lesions. There are open lesions and closed lesions for
starters. A lesion is a closed off area where certain toxins or pollutants
accumulate, and are walled off by the body to keep them from the rest of the
body.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net
ironjustice - 12 Apr 2008 17:59 GMT
On Apr 11, 5:14 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:mult-
sclerosis <<

"Abnormal accumulation of iron in MS"

BRAIN

Quantitative Assessment of Iron Accumulation in the Deep Gray Matter
of Multiple Sclerosis by Magnetic Field Correlation Imaging
Y. Gea, J.H. Jensena, H. Lua, J.A. Helperna, L. Milesa, M. Inglesea,
J.S. Babba, J. Herbertb and R.I. Grossmana
a Center for Biomedical Imaging, Department of Radiology, New York
University Medical Center, New York, NY
b Department of Neurology, MS Care Center, Hospital for Joint
Diseases, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY

Please address correspondence to Yulin Ge, MD, Department of
Radiology/
Center for Biomedical Imaging, New York University School of
Medicine,
650 First Ave, 6th Floor, Room 615, New York, NY 10016; e-mail:
yulin...@med.nyu.edu

BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE: Deposition of iron has been recognized
recently as an important factor of pathophysiologic change including
neurodegenerative processes in multiple sclerosis (MS). We propose
that there is an excess accumulation of iron in the deep gray matter
in patients with MS that can be measured with a newly developed
quantitative MR technique-magnetic field correlation (MFC) imaging.

MATERIALS AND METHODS: With a 3T MR system, we studied 17 patients
with relapsing-remitting MS and 14 age-matched healthy control
subjects. We acquired MFC imaging using an asymmetric single-shot
echo-
planar imaging sequence. Regions of interest were selected in both
deep gray matter and white matter regions, and the mean MFC values
were compared between patients and controls. We also correlated the
MFC data with lesion load and neuropsychologic tests in the patients.

RESULTS: MFC measured in the deep gray matter in patients with MS was
significantly higher than that in the healthy controls (P  .03), with
an average increase of 24% in the globus pallidus, 39.5% in the
putamen, and 30.6% in the thalamus. The increased iron deposition
measured with MFC in the deep gray matter in the patients correlated
positively with the total number of MS lesions (thalamus: r = 0.61, P
= .01; globus pallidus: r = 0.52, P = .02). A moderate but
significant
correlation between the MFC value in the deep gray matter and the
neuropsychologic tests was also found.

CONCLUSION: Quantitative measurements of iron content with MFC
demonstrate increased accumulation of iron in the deep gray matter in
patients with MS, which may be associated with the disrupted iron
outflow pathway by lesions. Such abnormal accumulation of iron may
contribute to neuropsychologic impairment and have implications for
neurodegenerative processes in MS.

http://www.ajnr.org/cgi/content/full/28/9/1639

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> Brain Lesions More Common Than Previously Thought
> April 1, 2008 at 7:56 am · Filed under Medical News, Neurology /
[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
timmythesaint - 12 Apr 2008 18:42 GMT
see?
never@millions.com - 12 Apr 2008 18:51 GMT
>see?

No, it's all in the (your) head.

Donn
ironjustice - 12 Apr 2008 19:16 GMT
see? <<

You obviously .. don't ..

You mix one table spoon of chocolate sauce with one tablespoon of
vegetable lecithin ..

You eat six tablespoons per day.

You don't shake so hard you drop your .. tea ..

You don't drool all over the newspaper ..

Evidentally .. there is something toooo .. the ..

"Mix one table spoon of chocolate sauce with one tablespoon of
vegetable lecithin ..

You eat six tablespoons per day." .. deal ..

Eh ..

But .. noooo ..

"Returned to normal "

Regression of symptoms after selective iron chelation therapy in a
case of neurodegeneration with brain iron accumulation. [JOURNAL
ARTICLE]
Mov Disord 2008 Mar 26.
Forni GL, Balocco M, Cremonesi L, Abbruzzese G, Parodi RC, Marchese R

We report the results of iron chelating treatment with deferiprone in
a 61-year-old woman with signs and symptoms of neurodegeneration with
brain iron accumulation (NBIA). After 6 months of therapy the
patient's gait had improved and a reduction in the incidence of
choreic dyskinesias was observed. Her gait returned to normal after
an
additional 2 months of therapy, at which time there was a further
reduction in involuntary movements and a partial resolution of the
blepharospasm. (c) 2008 Movement Disorder Society.

Movement disorders : official journal of the Movement Disorder
Society
[Mov Disord]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----

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ironjustice - 12 Apr 2008 19:26 GMT
On Apr 12, 11:16 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:partial resolution of the blepharospasm <<
http://www.blepharospasm.org/2002jankovic-t1.html

Table 1. Etiology of Blepharospasm
Primary Dystonia
Sporadic
Inherited (autosomal dominant)
Classic (Oppenheim's) dystonia (DYT1 - 9q34; ATP-binding protein,
TorsinA)
Childhood- and adult-onset cranial-cervical-limb dystonia (DYT6 -
8p21-22)
Adult-onset cervical and other focal dystonia (DYT7 - 18p)
Adult-onset cranial-cervical dystonia (DYT13 - 1p36.13-36.32)
Associated with neurodegenerative disorders
Primarily sporadic
Parkinson's disease
Progressive supranuclear palsy
Multiple system atrophy
Multiple sclerosis
Central pontine myelinolysis
Juvenile Parkinsonism-Dystonia
Progressive pallidal degeneration
Intraneuronal inclusion disease
Infantile bilateral striatal necrosis
Familial basal ganglia calcifications
Primarily inherited
Dystonia-plus syndromes
Atypical autosomal dominant dystonia (not DYT1 gene)
Myoclonic dystonia
Dopa-responsive dystonia (DRD) (DYT5 - GTP cyclohydrolase I 14q22.1)
Rapid-onset dystonia-parkinsonism
Early-onset parkinsonism with dystonia
X-linked dystonia parkinsonism or Lubag
Paroxysmal dystonia-choreoathetosis
Wilson disease
Tourette syndrome
Huntington's disease
Hallervorden.Spatz disease
Machado-Joseph disease
Ataxia telangiectasia
Neuroacanthocytosis
Olivopontocerebellar atrophy
Hereditary spastic paraplegia with dystonia
Fragile-X syndrome

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> see? <<
>
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>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
timmythesaint - 13 Apr 2008 08:31 GMT
look what happens.

My father always said, "empty tins rattle loudest." Here is a perfect
example. Idiocy of the first degree.
I have no problem with reseasrch, it is important, but people stealing
other people's reserach is just rude and obviously trying to cover up
a lack of personal intelligence.

Tim
timmythesaint - 13 Apr 2008 08:33 GMT
I'll stop now. I am bored with this man.
ironjustice - 13 Apr 2008 15:29 GMT
stealing
other people's reserach <<

Here let me explain health research analysis .. to ya ..

Nooo .. actually I don't think I .. will ..

Just stay off my threads like others have told ya to ..

Is that hard for you to understand .. ?

Is it that .. hard .. ?

Revista Española de Salud Pública
AMEZCUA, ManuelGALVEZ TORO, Alberto. Different approaches to
qualitative health research analysis: a critical and reflective view.
Rev. Esp. Salud Publica, oct. 2002, vol.76, no.5, p.423-436. ISSN
1135-5727.

There is a consistent theoretical and methodological foundations on
qualitative health research provided mainly by social sciences.
However, this existent overlap between social and health aspects is a
wide multidisciplinary field still underexplored. This article offers
an overview of the main paradigms, methodologies and theoretical
tendencies of qualitative research analyses within the health sciences
context. Based on an initial classification, two opposite extremes for
setting the bounds of the qualitative analysis continuum - from
designs focusing on data description, which are purely exploratory, to
those which go into theorizing processes so as to draw out
interpretations and inferences - are discussed. Qualitative research
is an important tool in the analysis of health problems from a social
and cultural point of view. Adopting different procedures such as
content and speech analysis, qualitative research approaches
communication patterns and examines the diverse language ideologies.
Sociological and anthropological traditions provide unique
methodologies which allow to know the context where the phenomena
appear and set out theoretical proposals in order to explain them, for
example ethnomethodology or analytical induction. Lastly, some keys
are suggested for developing a common area, out of which new
epistemological perspectives may be set out based on different
disciplines coming together.

: Qualitative Research; Health Sciences; Social Sciencies; Qualitative
analysis.

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> look what happens.
>
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>
> Tim
timmythesaint - 14 Apr 2008 15:51 GMT
It is not difficult to stay off your threads, but as an academic I
feel strongly about stealing other people's research. Don't take
credit for other people's hard work and dilligent study. That is just
rude.

Tim
Carole - 14 Apr 2008 19:30 GMT
On Apr 13, 12:31 am, timmythesaint <timward...@hotmail.com> wrote:
stealing
other people's reserach <<

Here let me explain health research analysis .. to ya ..

Nooo .. actually I don't think I .. will ..

Just stay off my threads like others have told ya to ..

Is that hard for you to understand .. ?

Carole > Is that a bit rude or what? If ya loves people so much, why are you
rude to them?

Is it that .. hard .. ?

Carole > Its hard to understand people when they are rude, yes.
And how the hell would you know if jesus was a vegetarian - or that jesus
even existed? The bible has been played around with you know - it is full of
all sorts of rubbish.
And how does a person get vitamin b12 if they are a vegetarian?

Carole
www.cellsalts.net
never@millions.com - 14 Apr 2008 21:29 GMT
>On Apr 13, 12:31 am, timmythesaint <timward...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>stealing
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>Carole
>www.cellsalts.net

Carole, you'd have a better time talking to a swinging door.

Donn
Shelley - 14 Apr 2008 21:39 GMT
Wrong (this one time) my dear Donn, he's like a freakin' brick wall.  A
swinging door at least changes it's position occasionally... :)
Shelley

>>On Apr 13, 12:31 am, timmythesaint <timward...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>stealing
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Donn
sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 14 Apr 2008 22:51 GMT
Shelley, you got that right!
Gwen

> Wrong (this one time) my dear Donn, he's like a freakin' brick wall.  A
> swinging door at least changes it's position occasionally... :)
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>>
>> Donn
ironjustice - 14 Apr 2008 02:16 GMT
On Apr 12, 11:16 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:lecithin <<

They talk about how the amount of lecithin or phosphatidylcholine is
available in lecithin .. ?? .. but one must remember it is almost one
hundred percent absorbed.

http://www.diet-and-health.net/Supplements/PhosphatidylCholine.html

"Decrease of 41% in serum cholesterol after taking lecithin for
several weeks."

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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> see? <<
>
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>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
ironjustice - 14 Apr 2008 02:33 GMT
On Apr 13, 6:16 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:it is
almost one
hundred percent absorbed. <<

http://tinyurl.com/5sx83k

Since phosphates comprise the better part of vegetable lecithin then
one can expect this high phosphate to be absorbed at close to 100%
sooo .. logically this phosphate will bind up the excess minerals in
the body .. so .. remediation at the molecular level in the human
body ..

Mining for ore.

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> On Apr 12, 11:16 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:lecithin <<
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