Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / April 2008
Medication worsens Alzheimer's
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Tim - 01 Apr 2008 13:25 GMT http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7319393.stm
Medication 'worsens Alzheimer's'
Anti-psychotic drugs commonly given to Alzheimer's patients often make their condition worse, a UK study suggests.
Neuroleptics provided no benefit for patients with mild behavioural problems, but were associated with a marked deterioration in verbal skills.
The research focused on 165 people with advanced Alzheimer's who were living in nursing homes in four British cities.
Up to 60% of Alzheimer's patients in nursing homes are given the drugs to control behaviour such as aggression.
The study appears in the journal Public Libary of Science Medicine.
CASE STUDY Rita Clark's husband was diagnosed with Alzheimer's seven years ago. Rita, from Cleveland, said: "My husband developed a range of side effects while receiving anti-psychotic drugs. "Since the drugs have been withdrawn, the side effects have gone and he generally seems much better and more settled. "I'm not saying it's the same for everyone, but in my husband's case, withdrawing the drugs has led to a clear improvement in his quality of life."
The researchers, from Kings College London and the Universities of Oxford and Newcastle, found the drugs offered no long-term benefit for most patients with mild symptoms of disturbed behaviour.
But just six months of treatment was enough for patients to show a marked deterioration in their verbal fluency.
Further preliminary analysis already under way on the data suggests the use of neuroleptics may also increase death rates.
The research focused on patients living in nursing homes in Oxfordshire, Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.
All patients had been taking neuroleptics for three months. They either continued on the same medication for a further 12 months, or took a dummy pill.
Lead researcher Professor Clive Ballard, said: "It is very clear that even over a six-month period of treatment, there is no benefit from neuroleptics in treating the behaviour in people with Alzheimer's disease when the symptoms are mild.
"For people with more severe behavioural symptoms, balancing the potential benefits against adverse effects is more difficult."
Rebecca Wood, of the Alzheimer's Research Trust, said: "These results are deeply troubling and highlight the urgent need to develop better treatments."
The trust says that neuroleptics should only continue to be prescribed long-term to dementia patients with severe behavioural problems, and then only as a last resort when non-drug methods have been tried and have failed.
Stroke risk
Neil Hunt, of the Alzheimer's Society, said previous research had also shown that anti-psychotic drugs raised the risk of stroke and death for people with dementia.
"This widespread overprescription to people with dementia must stop," he said.
"It is time we stop wasting money giving people drug treatments with no benefit and start investing in good quality dementia care."
It is estimated that 700,000 people are affected by dementia in the UK, a figure that will double in the next 30 years.
A report into the use of anti-psychotics in care homes is due to be published by the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Dementia this month.
The neuroleptics which came under analysis in the study were thioridazine (Melleril), chlorpromazine (Largactil), haloperidol (Serenace), trifluoperazine (Stelazine) and risperidone (Risperdal).
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Evelyn Ruut - 01 Apr 2008 14:03 GMT Tim, I am sorry to tell you this but I think this is incorrect, and could easily scare people off from using a drug that could prove helpful.
My mother in law had very upsetting delusions and antipsychotic medication helped her over that. The trick is to know when and how much to give the person, and when to realize it isn't working anymore and to stop. There is a right time and a wrong time for these kinds of medications. The only way to know is to stop for a while and see if the person experiences a bad effect from it.
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7319393.stm > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > (Melleril), chlorpromazine (Largactil), haloperidol (Serenace), > trifluoperazine (Stelazine) and risperidone (Risperdal). Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 01 Apr 2008 22:08 GMT I agree with Evelyn - you can't cast any drug option as Evil Incarnate. The emotional and behavioral challenges many people with Alzheimer's present - to themselves, to their caregivers, their families and neighbors - can make life living hell. Given that it is a fatal, incurable, progressive disease, anything that might help more than it hurts is worth a go.
The thing to keep in mind is that the person has to be carefully monitored by someone who knows them well - and the dose of whatever is being tried has to be kept as low as possible (you start even lower, and slowly titrate it up to see if there is a point where a good effect is obtained). You also have to be willing to back off on medications every now and then to see what happens, since their condition is always changing, and what was needed 6 months ago, might not be needed now.
It's all about quality of life, and in my book, if you can give them an extra 6 months of a happier existence, that beats a year of misery cold.
It ain't the years in your life, its the life in your years.
Mary
Tumbleweed - 01 Apr 2008 22:22 GMT > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7319393.stm > > Medication 'worsens Alzheimer's' > > Anti-psychotic drugs commonly given to Alzheimer's patients often make > their condition worse, a UK study suggests. <snip>
I think there are several things wrong with this, as reported in the media anyway (maybe the actual study is different).
First of all, it seems to make no allowance for the fact that the drugs reduce aggressions and so forth and thus there is an immeiate benefit even if there is a longer term faster decline- eg no account is made of the trade off. Maybe reduced aggression is worth making the alzheimers condition worse? - if it does, because; Second, 165 is a pretty small sample, and; Third, the anecdotal report by the woman in the article that 'her husband is easier to manage now, some 7 years later' ..well, we all know the reason for that and its almost certainly nothing to do with the drugs being withdrawn.
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Alan Meyer - 02 Apr 2008 00:53 GMT I have no special expertise about psychoactive drugs and won't try to comment on whether or not the conclusions of the study are correct. However I would like to raise a couple of points.
First of all, the posted summary does say:
> "For people with more severe behavioural symptoms, balancing > the potential benefits against adverse effects is more > difficult." Clearly, the study authors are not rejecting all use of these drugs. They specifically only criticized their use in cases of mild behavioral symptoms, where they believed side effects outweigh benefits. I guess we can argue about what is "mild" and what is "more severe".
Secondly, the authors said that the drugs should be given:
> ... only as a last resort when non-drug methods have been tried > and have failed. Everyone who has spent any time in Alzheimer's care facilities has probably noticed that the level of skill in dealing with patients can vary enormously from person to person. It's not just a matter of education. Sometimes one sees low paid, uneducated staff assistants who have a great "touch" with residents.
I've seen angry, aggressive, combative residents get angrier and more aggressive when one staff member tries to deal with them, and then calm down and relax with another one who had better interpersonal skills. I remember being told by one person that my mother was psychotic, difficult, unmanageable and in serious need of drugs. Later I was told by another person that my mother was very easy to take care of and "a real lady." I think that second person found most of the residents very easy to take care of and saw most of them as ladies and gentlemen.
It's hard to find fault with the authors' emphasis on trying non-drug methods. Good training and sensitization of caregivers, both family and professional, is one of those non-drug methods that needs to be tried, using much effort and some imagination.
But I'm sure I'm preaching to the converted here. I doubt if many people in this newsgroup would reach for a bottle of pills before first putting great effort into non-drug methods of managing their loved ones.
Alan
Tim - 02 Apr 2008 14:50 GMT > Everyone who has spent any time in Alzheimer's care facilities > has probably noticed that the level of skill in dealing with [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Alan When my late wife was in hospital, being assessed for what later turned out to be vascular dementia ,it was not unusual for the ward to be understaffed and for antipsychotics to be used in situations where with more staff other methids might have been more readily used. My wife was on 10mg olanzapine(velotab)which did help to calm her down. Prior to going in to be assessed she was quite delusional and at times aggressive ie bashing me with her walking frame. Ironically i too was on 10 mg olanazapine for a mental health problem which had a more soporofic effect on me than it did on her. Unfortunately she died just under 2 years after being dxed. Despite having several physical problems it was still unexpected though not i believe connected to the olanzapine.
With reference to the quality of staff.Some nurses had an aptitude for the job and the right mindset whilst there was some, and one in particular, who were temperamentally totally unsuited and indeed should have been screened out as unsuitable. The one in particular would have been better suited to work as a prison guard than dealing with people with dementia.
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Alan Meyer - 03 Apr 2008 03:23 GMT ...
> The one in particular would have been better suited to work as a prison > guard than dealing with people with dementia. Or perhaps in a job that had nothing to do with people.
There are numerous jobs where people don't need to deal too much with people, and never need to be in charge of people. I wish that people who are, by nature, combative, would seek out those kinds of jobs. Many do, but some don't.
Alan
Evelyn Ruut - 03 Apr 2008 10:53 GMT > ... >> The one in particular would have been better suited to work as a prison [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Alan There are always some nasty people.... they are everywhere. Like with our children, we cannot keep our loved ones in a bubble. You hope for the best and do the best you can to make the way smooth.
I was quite fortunate in that Ida was easy to deal with, everyone liked her. I couldn't be there all the time, but when I was I kept my eyes open.
My only real complaint was that her clothing would often disappear from her closet. That is a very minor matter.
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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 03 Apr 2008 17:02 GMT Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from her closet in the nursing home).
Mary responds: I think this is a universal issue with care facilities. We had the same problem with my mother in law's clothing. There were a couple of factors at work - for starters, the laundry at the facility was very institutional in nature - i.e. they must have done big loads in BOILING hot water and harsh detergents - which I can understand due to the nasty nature of the stains and soil on many residents clothing. However, it made short work of a lot of her clothing - garments that would have easily withstood dozens of domestic washes would end up as rags within a very short time. I wondered if some of the vanishing wardrobe were items lost in the wash (i.e.the iron on nametags just boiled off), or returned in such a mess that staff threw them out.
I do know if they'd come around to ask residents to identify their own clothing, my mother in law wouldn't have been able to help.
The other thing we really noticed is that residents wandered from room to room, and many of them would randomly pick up and drop off items as they went (not even realizing they were in someone else's room, or that the item they were carrying around belonged to someone else). And of course, unless the item was very clearly marked, well meaning staff would probably assume the red sweater Rita was lugging around belonged to her, and put it away in her closet or drawers.
I'm willing to be money many of her missing items were actually in other resident's drawers. I've told the story here about my visiting routine - I'd always make a careful search of her closet and drawers and pull out all the item I didn't recognize and drop them at the nursing station. There was always a stack of items that weren't hers, including her endless stash of cloth napkins, filched from the dining rooms.
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Evelyn Ruut - 03 Apr 2008 18:28 GMT > Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from > her closet in the nursing home). [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Mary G. At first I said I would do all her wash for her, taking home the soiled and bringing it back clean. That didn't work. Finally I just gave up and gave in because they put her stuff in the general wash anyway.
She was always dressed in clean clothes, they just were mostly not hers. I searched the laundry at the nursing home to see if any of her things were in the unidentifiable rack, but no luck. Her clothing simply disappeared.
You mentioned you MIL filching napkins..... my mother in law had a "thing" for filching rubber gloves from the daycare center. Every evening there was a huge stash of rubber gloves in her handbag. I asked her what she wanted them for? She replied that she would use them to dye her hair. I reminded her that she hadn't dyed her hair in years (It was totally white, by then). She just gave me a blank look, and of course she kept filching rubber gloves.
Apparently the daycare center people were used to it, and she wasn't the only one with a thing for rubber gloves.
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MikeHi@anon.co.uk - 22 Apr 2008 17:49 GMT >> Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from >> her closet in the nursing home). >> >> Mary responds: I think this is a universal issue with care facilities. >> We had the same problem with my mother in law's clothing. Hi all
I'm a new poster - my wife of 56 years went into a nursing home in the UK (so it's a 'care home' rather) last summer. I have experienced all the reasons for clothes loss as have been mentioned in this thread. I'm posting because nobody has written (for the USA) that they ironed name labels into their wife/partner's clothes? I do that - can't imagine that advanced technology hasn't come to the US of A? I also keep an eye on her clothes to ensure labels aren't wearing off in the wash. That, plus a special rousting every time I go in to the guys (generally) handling the laundry if it's gone wrong, has controlled the problem pretty well.
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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 22 Apr 2008 22:11 GMT Hi Mike
I'm in Canada and yes, all of my mother in law's clothing had name tags ironed in. It made no difference. We'd still find things that weren't hers in her room, and her things were often missing - sometimes never to return, sometimes they'd pop up out of the blue (one presumes that they'd been hidden in some other resident's drawers or closet).
You are absolutely right - those iron on labels do take a beating in the kind of commercial laundry they have in institutions. The wash water and the dryers are very hot, and the name tags would often start to peel. We also found that many synthetic knits would just be destroyed (i.e. lose their shape entirely). Anything a bit nice you want to preserve has to be laundered at home.
Mary G.
Evelyn Ruut - 23 Apr 2008 02:21 GMT >>> Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from >>> her closet in the nursing home). [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Kind regards to all > MikeHi Hi Mike,
Of course we did that too, but it didn't help a bit. I think the help at the home didn't work hard enough at keeping the right clothing for the right people. But if the other aspects of care are good, I figured what the heck..... it was just some clothing, ......and she was always dressed nicely every day when I came to see her, it just wasn't in her clothes!
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