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Tim - 01 Apr 2008 13:25 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7319393.stm

Medication 'worsens Alzheimer's'

Anti-psychotic drugs commonly given to Alzheimer's patients often make
their condition worse, a UK study suggests.

Neuroleptics provided no benefit for patients with mild behavioural
problems, but were associated with a marked deterioration in verbal skills.

The research focused on 165 people with advanced Alzheimer's who were
living in nursing homes in four British cities.

Up to 60% of Alzheimer's patients in nursing homes are given the drugs
to control behaviour such as aggression.

The study appears in the journal Public Libary of Science Medicine.

   
CASE STUDY
Rita Clark's husband was diagnosed with Alzheimer's seven years ago.
Rita, from Cleveland, said: "My husband developed a range of side
effects while receiving anti-psychotic drugs.
"Since the drugs have been withdrawn, the side effects have gone and he
generally seems much better and more settled.
"I'm not saying it's the same for everyone, but in my husband's case,
withdrawing the drugs has led to a clear improvement in his quality of
life."

The researchers, from Kings College London and the Universities of
Oxford and Newcastle, found the drugs offered no long-term benefit for
most patients with mild symptoms of disturbed behaviour.

But just six months of treatment was enough for patients to show a
marked deterioration in their verbal fluency.

Further preliminary analysis already under way on the data suggests the
use of neuroleptics may also increase death rates.

The research focused on patients living in nursing homes in Oxfordshire,
Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

All patients had been taking neuroleptics for three months. They either
continued on the same medication for a further 12 months, or took a
dummy pill.

Lead researcher Professor Clive Ballard, said: "It is very clear that
even over a six-month period of treatment, there is no benefit from
neuroleptics in treating the behaviour in people with Alzheimer's
disease when the symptoms are mild.

"For people with more severe behavioural symptoms, balancing the
potential benefits against adverse effects is more difficult."

Rebecca Wood, of the Alzheimer's Research Trust, said: "These results
are deeply troubling and highlight the urgent need to develop better
treatments."

The trust says that neuroleptics should only continue to be prescribed
long-term to dementia patients with severe behavioural problems, and
then only as a last resort when non-drug methods have been tried and
have failed.

Stroke risk

Neil Hunt, of the Alzheimer's Society, said previous research had also
shown that anti-psychotic drugs raised the risk of stroke and death for
people with dementia.

"This widespread overprescription to people with dementia must stop," he
said.

"It is time we stop wasting money giving people drug treatments with no
benefit and start investing in good quality dementia care."

It is estimated that 700,000 people are affected by dementia in the UK,
a figure that will double in the next 30 years.

A report into the use of anti-psychotics in care homes is due to be
published by the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Dementia this month.

The neuroleptics which came under analysis in the study were
thioridazine (Melleril), chlorpromazine (Largactil), haloperidol
(Serenace), trifluoperazine (Stelazine) and risperidone (Risperdal).

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Evelyn Ruut - 01 Apr 2008 14:03 GMT
Tim, I am sorry to tell you this but I think this is incorrect, and could
easily scare people off from using a drug that could prove helpful.

My mother in law had very upsetting delusions and antipsychotic medication
helped her over that.   The trick is to know when and how much to give the
person, and when to realize it isn't working anymore and to stop.   There is
a right time and a wrong time for these kinds of medications.   The only way
to know is to stop for a while and see if the person experiences a bad
effect from it.

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Evelyn

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7319393.stm
>
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> (Melleril), chlorpromazine (Largactil), haloperidol (Serenace),
> trifluoperazine (Stelazine) and risperidone (Risperdal).
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 01 Apr 2008 22:08 GMT
I agree with Evelyn - you can't cast any drug option as Evil
Incarnate. The emotional and behavioral challenges many people with
Alzheimer's present - to themselves, to their caregivers, their
families and neighbors - can make life living hell. Given that it is a
fatal, incurable, progressive disease, anything that might help more
than it hurts is worth a go.

The thing to keep in mind is that the person has to be carefully
monitored by someone who knows them well - and the dose of whatever is
being tried has to be kept as low as possible (you start even lower,
and slowly titrate it up to see if there is a point where a good
effect is obtained). You also have to be willing to back off on
medications every now and then to see what happens, since their
condition is always changing, and what was needed 6 months ago, might
not be needed now.

It's all about quality of life, and in my book, if you can give them
an extra  6 months of a happier existence, that beats a year of misery
cold.

It ain't the years in your life, its the life in your years.

Mary
Tumbleweed - 01 Apr 2008 22:22 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7319393.stm
>
> Medication 'worsens Alzheimer's'
>
> Anti-psychotic drugs commonly given to Alzheimer's patients often make
> their condition worse, a UK study suggests.

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I think there are several things wrong with this, as reported in the media
anyway (maybe the actual study is different).

First of all, it seems to make no allowance for the fact that the drugs
reduce aggressions and so forth and thus there is an immeiate benefit even
if there is a longer term faster decline- eg no account is made of the trade
off. Maybe reduced aggression is worth making the alzheimers condition
worse?  - if it does, because;
Second, 165 is a pretty small sample, and;
Third, the anecdotal report by the woman in the article that 'her husband is
easier to manage now, some 7 years later' ..well, we all know the reason for
that and its almost certainly nothing to do with the drugs being withdrawn.

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Alan Meyer - 02 Apr 2008 00:53 GMT
I have no special expertise about psychoactive drugs and won't
try to comment on whether or not the conclusions of the study are
correct.  However I would like to raise a couple of points.

First of all, the posted summary does say:

> "For people with more severe behavioural symptoms, balancing
> the potential benefits against adverse effects is more
> difficult."

Clearly, the study authors are not rejecting all use of these
drugs.  They specifically only criticized their use in cases of
mild behavioral symptoms, where they believed side effects
outweigh benefits.  I guess we can argue about what is "mild" and
what is "more severe".

Secondly, the authors said that the drugs should be given:

> ... only as a last resort when non-drug methods have been tried
> and have failed.

Everyone who has spent any time in Alzheimer's care facilities
has probably noticed that the level of skill in dealing with
patients can vary enormously from person to person.  It's not
just a matter of education.  Sometimes one sees low paid,
uneducated staff assistants who have a great "touch" with
residents.

I've seen angry, aggressive, combative residents get angrier and
more aggressive when one staff member tries to deal with them,
and then calm down and relax with another one who had better
interpersonal skills.  I remember being told by one person that
my mother was psychotic, difficult,  unmanageable and in serious
need of drugs.  Later I was told by another person that my mother
was very easy to take care of and "a real lady."  I think that
second person found most of the residents very easy to take care
of and saw most of them as ladies and gentlemen.

It's hard to find fault with the authors' emphasis on trying
non-drug methods.  Good training and sensitization of caregivers,
both family and professional, is one of those non-drug methods
that needs to be tried, using much effort and some imagination.

But I'm sure I'm preaching to the converted here.  I doubt if
many people in this newsgroup would reach for a bottle of pills
before first putting great effort into non-drug methods of
managing their loved ones.

   Alan
Tim - 02 Apr 2008 14:50 GMT
> Everyone who has spent any time in Alzheimer's care facilities
> has probably noticed that the level of skill in dealing with
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>
>     Alan

When my late wife was in hospital, being assessed for what later turned
out to be vascular dementia ,it was not unusual for the ward to be
understaffed and for antipsychotics to be used  in situations where with
more staff other methids might have been more readily used.
My wife was on 10mg olanzapine(velotab)which did help to calm her down.
Prior to going in to be assessed she was quite delusional  and at times
aggressive ie bashing me with her walking frame.
Ironically i too was on 10 mg olanazapine for a mental health problem
which had a more soporofic effect on me than it did on her.
Unfortunately she died  just under 2 years after being dxed. Despite
having several physical problems it was still unexpected though not i
believe connected to the olanzapine.

With reference to the quality of staff.Some nurses had an aptitude for
the job and the right mindset whilst there was some, and one in
particular, who were temperamentally totally unsuited and indeed should
have been screened out as unsuitable.
The one in particular would have been better suited to work as a prison
guard than dealing with people with dementia.

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Alan Meyer - 03 Apr 2008 03:23 GMT
...
> The one in particular would have been better suited to work as a prison
> guard than dealing with people with dementia.

Or perhaps in a job that had nothing to do with people.

There are numerous jobs where people don't need to deal
too much with people, and never need to be in charge of
people.  I wish that people who are, by nature, combative,
would seek out those kinds of jobs.  Many do, but some
don't.

   Alan
Evelyn Ruut - 03 Apr 2008 10:53 GMT
> ...
>> The one in particular would have been better suited to work as a prison
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>
>    Alan

There are always some nasty people.... they are everywhere.   Like with our
children, we cannot keep our loved ones in a bubble.   You hope for the best
and do the best you can to make the way smooth.

I was quite fortunate in that Ida was easy to deal with, everyone liked her.
I couldn't be there all the time, but when I was I kept my eyes open.

My only real complaint was that her clothing would often disappear from her
closet.   That is a very minor matter.

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 03 Apr 2008 17:02 GMT
Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from
her closet in the nursing home).

Mary responds: I think this is a universal issue with care facilities.
We had the same problem with my mother in law's clothing. There were a
couple of factors at work - for starters, the laundry at the facility
was very institutional in nature - i.e. they must have done big loads
in BOILING hot water and harsh detergents - which I can understand due
to the nasty nature of the stains and soil on many residents clothing.
However, it made short work of a lot of her clothing - garments that
would have easily withstood dozens of domestic washes would end up as
rags within a very short time. I wondered if some of the vanishing
wardrobe were items lost in the wash (i.e.the iron on nametags just
boiled off), or returned in such a mess that staff threw them out.

I do know if they'd come around to ask residents to identify their own
clothing, my mother in law wouldn't have been able to help.

The other thing we really noticed is that residents wandered from room
to room, and many of them would randomly pick up and drop off items as
they went (not even realizing they were in someone else's room, or
that the item they were carrying around belonged to someone else).
And of course, unless the item was very clearly marked, well meaning
staff would probably assume the red sweater Rita was lugging around
belonged to her, and put it away in her closet or drawers.

I'm willing to be money many of her missing items were actually in
other resident's drawers. I've told the story here about my visiting
routine - I'd always make a careful search of her closet and drawers
and pull out all the item I didn't recognize and drop them at the
nursing station. There was always a stack of items that weren't hers,
including her endless stash of cloth napkins, filched from the dining
rooms.

Mary G.
Evelyn Ruut - 03 Apr 2008 18:28 GMT
> Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from
> her closet in the nursing home).
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>
> Mary G.

At first I said I would do all her wash for her, taking home the soiled and
bringing it back clean.   That didn't work.    Finally I just gave up and
gave in because they put her stuff in the general wash anyway.

She was always dressed in clean clothes, they just were mostly not hers.
I searched the laundry at the nursing home to see if any of her things were
in the unidentifiable rack, but no luck.   Her clothing simply disappeared.

You mentioned you MIL filching napkins..... my mother in law had a "thing"
for filching rubber gloves from the daycare center.   Every evening there
was a huge stash of rubber gloves in her handbag.   I asked her what she
wanted them for?   She replied that she would use them to dye her hair.   I
reminded her that she hadn't dyed her hair in years (It was totally white,
by then).   She just gave me a blank look, and of course she kept filching
rubber gloves.

Apparently the daycare center people were used to it, and she wasn't the
only one with a thing for rubber gloves.

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MikeHi@anon.co.uk - 22 Apr 2008 17:49 GMT
>> Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from
>> her closet in the nursing home).
>>
>> Mary responds: I think this is a universal issue with care facilities.
>> We had the same problem with my mother in law's clothing.

Hi all

I'm a new poster - my wife of 56 years went into a nursing home in the
UK (so it's a 'care home' rather) last summer. I have experienced all
the reasons for clothes loss as have been mentioned in this thread.
I'm posting because nobody has written (for the USA) that they ironed
name labels into their wife/partner's clothes? I do that - can't
imagine that advanced technology hasn't come to the US of A?  I also
keep an eye on her clothes to ensure labels aren't wearing off in the
wash. That, plus a special rousting every time I go in to the guys
(generally) handling the laundry if it's gone wrong, has controlled
the problem pretty well.

Kind regards to all
MikeHi
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 22 Apr 2008 22:11 GMT
Hi Mike

I'm in Canada and yes, all of my mother in law's clothing had name
tags ironed in. It made no difference. We'd still find things that
weren't hers in her room, and her things were often missing -
sometimes never to return, sometimes they'd pop up out of the blue
(one presumes that they'd been hidden in some other resident's drawers
or closet).

You are absolutely right - those iron on labels do take a beating in
the kind of commercial laundry they have in institutions. The wash
water and the dryers are very hot, and the name tags would often start
to peel. We also found that many synthetic knits would just be
destroyed (i.e. lose their shape entirely). Anything a bit nice you
want to preserve has to be laundered at home.

Mary G.
Evelyn Ruut - 23 Apr 2008 02:21 GMT
>>> Evelyn commented on her mother in law's vanishing clothing (gone from
>>> her closet in the nursing home).
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> Kind regards to all
> MikeHi

Hi Mike,

Of course we did that too, but it didn't help a bit.   I think the help at
the home didn't work hard enough at keeping the right clothing for the right
people.    But if the other aspects of care are good, I figured what the
heck..... it was just some clothing, ......and she was always dressed nicely
every day when I came to see her, it just wasn't in her clothes!

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