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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / February 2008

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pattyc4303 - 24 Feb 2008 02:38 GMT
Hi again,

I posted a couple months back about how to get my mom to undergo the
geriatric center eval.  The replies were very helpful (not so much in
getting her to the eval, but in helping me to DEAL with her....).

Anyway, there's been a lot that's happened since then.  (Which was
maybe September.)  Around December, we got to the point where it was
clear she could NOT take care of her own meds.   We have a compantion
coming for 3 hours per day to make sure she takes her meds and eats
something.  She HATES the lovely companion lady.

As of today, we may be 'firing' the companion Monday, mostly due to
her paranoia about how the person is not doing things in her best
interest.

So, you might see, my mom has become increasingly delusional.

She has been being treated with the geriatric ctr.  They gave her
Zoloft for lots of depression, and are maybe going to give Aricept
on2/29.

IN all honesty, she has rapidly gotten more and more "off the wall".
The last couple months, she seems to be more and more talking
nonsense.

The thing is... for years now, I have been worrying she's 'losing it,'
but... she's been really mostly together and on the ball.  I think now
that just demonstrates, because she is so damn intelligent, ... how
well she could cover up losing her mind.

I can't even know if the Zoloft helped any.  Her PCP encouraged me to
cut back the dose of Zolort, to at least determine if that's what made
her even  more off the wall lately.  (The geriatric ctr CRNP told me
to do what I wanted, could be the Zoloft making her more confused,
maybe could be we are catching her in the decline...)

So anyway, she is back down to 25mg Zoloft per day, but is EVERY day
very delusional..   But... on the other hand, talking totally
rationally about other things...

In the mean time.  And why I am here.  My sisters and I have been
visiting all the personal care homes, assisted living places and
SNFs....   The $ is a factor... big time..   I found a Catholic place
near me, but fear they will not take her, maybe she is already too
bad...  they won't take anyone who wanders or stays up all night.
She is definately up in the way early morning hours.

I am so nervous and uptight about her being able to adjust to the
group atmosphere in assisted living.  IF they even accept her...

I found a place that is reasonably priced that used to be for retired
nuns.  As a result, the population is half old demented nuns.  With
the general quiet atmosphere abd proximity to where I live, it feels
semi RIGHT.

Talk to me,  How does an adult child figure out what the rifght
answers are??

Thanks

PattyC
William Stacy, O.D. - 24 Feb 2008 07:23 GMT
Not sure if this will help, but it sounds kindof like what I've been
through.  My mom could barely walk with a walker when we took over. As
it turns out, getting her into a senior residence that provides 3
squares a day in an open seating,  restaurant style dining room really
helped.  I think she was really malnourished eating at home on her own
and was very chancy about meds. That and a sodium imbalance really was
killing her.  Too much dietary salt reduction combined with a lot of
coffee is a dangerous combination.

Now, after about 6 months there, she can walk unassisted (no cane or
walker) and seems far less delusional and more aware of what's going on.
  At the worst, she had been diagnosed with alz and dementia, but now
those diagnoses have been recently contradicted and replaced with just
more or less "normal" senility due to small vessel arteriosclerosis.

Still feels like she wants to go "home", which is out of the question,
as home has been sold and she would deteriorate again.  The proceeds are
helping pay her way. She is gradually beginning to actually like her
surroundings.

On the meds, we got a dandy automatic pill dispenser that works very
well. I only need to go over there every 2 weeks to load it up since she
takes meds 2xs per day. Click on http://www.epill.com/medtime.html

You have to be firm with these old folks. They don't like it, but they
really have no choice.  I just hope my kids do for me what I've done for
mom, assuming I may need it some day, and that I won't fight too hard.

good luck.

Bill

> Hi again,
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Dennis P. Harris - 25 Feb 2008 09:23 GMT
> In the mean time.  And why I am here.  My sisters and I have been
> visiting all the personal care homes, assisted living places and
> SNFs....   The $ is a factor... big time..

You don't have to worry about that, but you DO need to talk to an
attorney experienced with elder law in your jurisdiction!

You need to find the best place for her that will take Medicaid
when her assets are all spent down, and move her.  If she owns a
home, you may have to sell it to pay for her care until the money
is gone, but once her money is gone, Medicaid will pay.  There
may be ways to protect part of her assets, but you need to be
careful and consult with an attorney regarding the Medicaid law &
rules in your state before you dispose of any assets.
Chuck Whealton - 27 Feb 2008 02:31 GMT
> Hi again,
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> PattyC

Patty:

When my own Mother began to suffer from dementia, probably brought on
by mini-strokes, a social worker suggested a geriatric psychiatrist
near where we live and though I was skeptical that he could help, it
turned out he was an absolute God send.  If I understood, you're
dealing with a Nurse Practitioner who specializes in geriatric care?

Anyway, my Mother's geriatric psychiatrist worked with us to get her
medications correct, which is very important, and he was available
even off hours via phone.  The first medication doesn't always get
it.  We found out my Mother was horrible on Depakote, but much better
on Zyprexe.  Depakote would practically have her collapsing from
exhaustion after a couple days on it.  Zyprexe by itself was a big
help.

If you're able to find the correct medications, you might be able to
get your Mother to a state where she could become a part of one of
those homes you looked at.

It's very hard and very stressful to deal with a parent who's
suffering from dementia.  Even more difficult when they're acting as
your Mother appears to be - smart enough to evade detection for a long
time.  My Uncle did the same thing and made it very difficult for his
children.

I certainly wish you the best of luck with this - but really work with
the specialist you're using for your Mother to try and get the correct
combination of pharmaceuticals.  It's shocking what a positive
difference the correct combination can make.

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
 
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