>> Not AD related, but these are becoming popular gifts and everyone here
>> seems to have a computer.
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> I read this on Sunday. Very scary. I almost bought one of those frames
> for my mother. Very glad that I didn't now. AW
The chances you woud have bought one of the particular consignement and
exact make tht had the virus is miniscule.

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Evelyn Ruut - 18 Feb 2008 23:09 GMT
>>> Not AD related, but these are becoming popular gifts and everyone here
>>> seems to have a computer.
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> The chances you woud have bought one of the particular consignement and
> exact make tht had the virus is miniscule.
Hey T..... how can you know? With my luck I'd get the "wonky" one.

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august - 19 Feb 2008 08:04 GMT
>>> Not AD related, but these are becoming popular gifts and everyone here
>>> seems to have a computer.
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> The chances you woud have bought one of the particular consignement and
> exact make tht had the virus is miniscule.
Best Buy, Costco, Target, Sam's Club ? None of those businesses buy small
lots of any product they sell. I'd think it was much more likely that there
are large numbers of people who bought these frames who do not even realize
their computers are infected. How many digital frames do you think these
four large retailers sold during the last Christmas shopping season? If the
trojan downloaded from these various brands of frames could disable over 100
types of antivirus software plus leave no tracks on the infected computers
then this was a big project that took lots of planning and expertise. It was
not the work of some disaffected kid who just messed with a few frames in
the factory where he worked. AW
Tumbleweed - 19 Feb 2008 08:11 GMT
> Best Buy, Costco, Target, Sam's Club ? None of those businesses buy small
> lots of any product they sell. I'd think it was much more likely that
> there are large numbers of people who bought these frames who do not even
> realize their computers are infected. How many digital frames do you think
> these four large retailers sold during the last Christmas shopping season?
Huge numbers. Thats my point, because it was just one consignement of one
brand that had the problem. Hence the odds being very low.

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august - 19 Feb 2008 19:56 GMT
>> Best Buy, Costco, Target, Sam's Club ? None of those businesses buy
>> small lots of any product they sell. I'd think it was much more likely
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> Huge numbers. Thats my point, because it was just one consignement of one
> brand that had the problem. Hence the odds being very low.
Only one brand that Best Buy sold was infected. Other stores had other frame
brands and models that were infected plus some frames had multiple trojans
embedded in addition to the Mocmex trojan. The original newspaper article I
read concerning this issue was more detailed than the recent online
articles.
AW
AW wrote: I almost bought one of those frames for my mother.
Mary responds: We were just at an 80th birthday party for a family
friend. She lives in a care facility close to us in Toronto (she had a
serious stroke a couple of years back that left her with a seizure
disorder). All three of her sons live in the States. She is going
downhill mentally - probably multi-infarct. At any rate, she enjoys
pictures, so one of her sons bought her one of those frames as a
birthday gift. He loaded it up, set it up etc. It has a timer, so it
shuts itself off at night and back on during the day.
She must have called us 10 times now. She is upset by it, can't
remember that it shuts itself off, is all worried about leaving it on,
can't understand how to just unplug it or switch it off etc. etc.
A nice low tech picture frame, or album might have been a better idea.
M.
Evelyn Ruut - 18 Feb 2008 23:14 GMT
> AW wrote: I almost bought one of those frames for my mother.
>
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>
> M.
Yes, that is true. I remember when my mother in law had problems finding
her way out of her bedroom to the bathroom....(only a few feet across the
hall from her door) so we put a nightlight in her room plugged into a
receptacle under a table, where we thought it wouldn't bother her. She
went through all sorts of contortions trying to turn that thing off. Low
tech is definitely better.

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