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Adelle - 25 Jan 2008 03:45 GMT
Just some thoughts on our current source of frustration.

She is self described as having Alzheimer's and is acting paranoid. Hmm. Yet
you are still answering her accusations as if her 'reasoner' weren't broken.
We can't calm her like we might a loved one, with distractions and such. Nor
is it our obligation to be a caretaker here. So why answer?

We all choose to whom we reply. We *can* simply ignore all posts which
aren't about caretaking or otherwise supportive of the group. That goes for
people who we know are afflicted, have personal axes to grind, have medical
theories which they are propounding, or just want to sell us something.
Nothing is forcing us to finish reading their posts, take time out of our
lives to compose an answer, or hit send. So why do it?

Lastly, if you are going to reply, please delete whatever the impaired
poster has written from your reply. Don't quote them. It takes up bandwidth,
slows the downloads, and allows the person an additional shot at having
their rantings appear on the ng.

Just my two cents.
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Adelle

EddyJean - 25 Jan 2008 05:25 GMT
Annoying posts  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 10:45pm (PST+3)
From: adNOstavis@SPAMcomcast.net (Adelle)
Just some thoughts on our current source of frustration.
She is self described as having Alzheimer's and is acting paranoid. Hmm.
Yet you are still answering her accusations as if her 'reasoner' weren't
broken. We can't calm her like we might a loved one, with distractions
and such. Nor is it our obligation to be a caretaker here. So why
answer?
We all choose to whom we reply. We *can* simply ignore all posts which
aren't about caretaking or otherwise supportive of the group. That goes
for people who we know are afflicted, have personal axes to grind, have
medical theories which they are propounding, or just want to sell us
something. Nothing is forcing us to finish reading their posts, take
time out of our lives to compose an answer, or hit send. So why do it?
Lastly, if you are going to reply, please delete whatever the impaired
poster has written from your reply. Don't quote them. It takes up
bandwidth, slows the downloads, and allows the person an additional shot
at having their rantings appear on the ng.
Just my two cents.
Signature

Adelle
==========================================
Adelle--
I've never described myself as having Alzheimers. My mother had AD and I
have dementia.  The same virus that causes AD can also cause blindness,
vertigo, hearing and memory loss. This is a complex disease and one
reason why AD is not seriously studiied. It's progressive, some go
slowly, others fast.
EddyJean

June - 25 Jan 2008 16:11 GMT
> Just some thoughts on our current source of frustration.
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Just my two cents.

Finally a voice of reason.   My sentiments exactly.......June
Bud - 25 Jan 2008 17:25 GMT
> Lastly, if you are going to reply, please delete whatever the impaired
> poster has written from your reply.

Amen! I have such posters kill-filed and still have to be exposed to their
ramblings by the inclusion of their posts in the replys. PLEASE delete their
trash.. or better yet, ignore or kill-file them. Thank you very much.

Bud
Dennis P. Harris - 27 Jan 2008 04:17 GMT
> We all choose to whom we reply. We *can* simply ignore all posts which
> aren't about caretaking or otherwise supportive of the group. That goes for
> people who we know are afflicted, have personal axes to grind, have medical
> theories which they are propounding, or just want to sell us something.
> Nothing is forcing us to finish reading their posts, take time out of our
> lives to compose an answer, or hit send. So why do it?

thanks, adelle.  i'm glad i'm not the only one who urges folks to
simply "block sender" or killfile folks like this.

IF WE DON'T FEED TROLLS THEY WILL GO AWAY.  it's that simple.
EddyJean - 29 Jan 2008 04:34 GMT
Re: Annoying posts  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 7:17pm (PST-1)
From: NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:45:25 -0500 in alt.support.alzheimers, "Adelle"
<adNOstavis@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
We all choose to whom we reply. We *can* simply ignore all posts which
aren't about caretaking or otherwise supportive of the group. That goes
for people who we know are afflicted, have personal axes to grind, have
medical theories which they are propounding, or just want to sell us
something. Nothing is forcing us to finish reading their posts, take
time out of our lives to compose an answer, or hit send. So why do it?
thanks, adelle. i'm glad i'm not the only one who urges folks to simply
"block sender" or killfile folks like this.
IF WE DON'T FEED TROLLS THEY WILL GO AWAY. it's that simple.
=========================================
Ah, the mind controllers have spoken. Since day ONE, this groupie has
tried to stop my posts. Why? They don't want you to know the late Dr.
James Ramsay Hunt discovered the viruses in 1907 that cause AD and other
facial/cranial diseases. The father of Neurology in the U.S.treated
patients nearly 30 years with these diseases before his death.  His
obsession was with the facial nerves. I posted TWICE the addresses of
the American Medical Association and the Director of Neurology at
Columbia University in NYC but these posts quickly disappeared.  Why
remove my posts, insert sentences into my posts, deny me freedom of
speech in a country that boasts of "Democracy", if what I'm telling you
weren't true?
Eddyjean
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 29 Jan 2008 19:39 GMT
> Re: Annoying posts
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> weren't true?
> Eddyjean

Eddy Jean,
  My first thought was to ignore you.But,you have told us everything
now about this man and you insist we all do something none of us are
interested in.Why can't you move on?Is it because you have nothing
else to add to this group?No help for anyone who is going through hell
with a loved one?Do you actually know what we all are going through?
Our loved ones suffer deeply with this disease.The caretakers suffer
even more.You watch your loved one slowly die.Do you have even one
glimpse of what thats like????? For Gods sake Eddy Jean,give love and
support to these people,not anything else unless you come up with a
cure that helps the most deteriorated alz.patient.Because your posts
offer no help to us who are in the midst off it all.Have a
heart,please,Barb
EddyJean - 30 Jan 2008 08:06 GMT
Re: Annoying posts  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 11:39am From:
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com
On Jan 28, 10:34 pm, eddyj...@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote:
Re: Annoying posts
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 7:17pm (PST-1)
From: NO_SPAM_TO_dphar...@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:45:25 -0500 in alt.support.alzheimers,
"Adelle"<adNOsta...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
We all choose to whom we reply. We *can* simply ignore all posts which
aren't about caretaking or otherwise supportive of the group. That goes
for people who we know are afflicted, have personal axes to grind, have
medical theories which they are propounding, or just want to sell us
something. Nothing is forcing us to finish reading their posts, take
time out of our lives to compose an answer, or hit send. So why do it?
thanks, adelle. i'm glad i'm not the only one who urges folks to simply
"block sender" or killfile folks like this. IF WE DON'T FEED TROLLS THEY
WILL GO AWAY. it's that simple.
=========================================
Ah, the mind controllers have spoken. Since day ONE, this groupie has
tried to stop my posts. Why? They don't want you to know the late Dr.
James Ramsay Hunt discovered the viruses in 1907 that cause AD and other
facial/cranial diseases. The father of Neurology in the U.S.treated
patients nearly 30 years with these diseases before his death. His
obsession was with the facial nerves. I posted TWICE the addresses of
the American Medical Association and the Director of Neurology at
Columbia University in NYC but these posts quickly disappeared. Why
remove my posts, insert sentences into my posts, deny me freedom of
speech in a country that boasts of "Democracy", if what I'm telling you
weren't true?
Eddyjean
Eddy Jean,
      My first thought was to ignore you.But,you have told
us everything now about this man and you insist we all do something none
of us are interested in.Why can't you move on?Is it because you have
nothing else to add to this group?No help for anyone who is going
through hell with a loved one?Do you actually know what we all are going
through? Our loved ones suffer deeply with this disease.The caretakers
suffer even more.You watch your loved one slowly die.Do you have even
one glimpse of what thats like????? For Gods sake Eddy Jean,give love
and support to these people,not anything else unless you come up with a
cure that helps the most deteriorated alz.patient.Because your posts
offer no help to us who are in the midst off it all.Have a
heart,please,Barb  
=========================================
Barb--
Because I'm fighting back to the lousy healthcare on chronic diseases,
I've probably suffered longer from this disease  than most posting here.
My late mother had AD, other relatives died never knowing the cause of
their illness and have eight relatives now suffering from it with no
help in sight. My God, AZ was discovered in 1906, how long do you think
we should wait for a cure???  I've volunteered myself as a subject of
study for the past fifteen years, traveled coast to coast to enter
studies at the nation's most prestigious medical schools, and you know
what, I found NO ONE doing serious studies on AZ except a front to make
the public think there is.  So, the question is: who's pocketing the
grant money (paid by the taxpayer) directed towards a specific research
when there's no research???? The medical schools police themselves and
have no "neutral" oversight committees but left to do as they please. Az
research always seems to end with the tangles and plaques.  The U.S. has
the technology to go to the moon, and send robots to Mars, but can't
find a cure to AZ, leaving thousands to suffer and die needlessly and
prematurely. After Christopher Columbus, is there no one left willing to
accept new challenges? This disease has far reaching consequences. Yes,
its not an easy thing to watch a loved one suffer from this and that's
why I want answers. Why was there no followup on the late Dr. James R.
Hunt's research but covered up? Government won't do anything to protect
us, so its up to "We the People!"
Eddyjean
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 30 Jan 2008 15:32 GMT
> Re: Annoying posts
>
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
> us, so its up to "We the People!"
> Eddyjean

Eddy Jean,
 What stage are you in and what is your diagnosis? Did you take care
of your mom?
EddyJean - 31 Jan 2008 23:23 GMT
Re: Annoying posts  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 7:32am From:
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com
On Jan 30, 2:06 am, eddyj...@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote:
Re: Annoying posts
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 11:39am From:
deerwoodflo...@hotmail.com
On Jan 28, 10:34 pm, eddyj...@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote:
Re: Annoying posts
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 7:17pm (PST-1)
From: NO_SPAM_TO_dphar...@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:45:25 -0500 in
alt.support.alzheimers,"Adelle"<adNOsta...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
We all choose to whom we reply. We *can* simply ignore all posts which
aren't about caretaking or otherwise supportive of the group. That goes
for people who we know are afflicted, have personal axes to grind, have
medical theories which they are propounding, or just want to sell us
something. Nothing is forcing us to finish reading their posts, take
time out of our lives to compose an answer, or hit send. So why do it?
thanks, adelle. i'm glad i'm not the only one who urges folks to simply
"block sender" or killfile folks like this. IF WE DON'T FEED TROLLS THEY
WILL GO AWAY. it's that simple.
=========================================
Ah, the mind controllers have spoken. Since day ONE, this groupie has
tried to stop my posts. Why? They don't want you to know the late Dr.
James Ramsay Hunt discovered the viruses in 1907 that cause AD and other
facial/cranial diseases. The father of Neurology in the U.S.treated
patients nearly 30 years with these diseases before his death. His
obsession was with the facial nerves. I posted TWICE the addresses of
the American Medical Association and the Director of Neurology at
Columbia University in NYC but these posts quickly disappeared. Why
remove my posts, insert sentences into my posts, deny me freedom of
speech in a country that boasts of "Democracy", if what I'm telling you
weren't true?
Eddyjean
Eddy Jean,
            My first thought was to ignore
you.But,you have told us everything now about this man and you insist we
all do something none of us are interested in.Why can't you move on?Is
it because you have nothing else to add to this group?No help for anyone
who is going through hell with a loved one?Do you actually know what we
all are going through? Our loved ones suffer deeply with this
disease.The caretakers suffer even more.You watch your loved one slowly
die.Do you have even one glimpse of what thats like????? For Gods sake
Eddy Jean,give love and support to these people,not anything else unless
you come up with a cure that helps the most deteriorated
alz.patient.Because your posts offer no help to us who are in the midst
off it all.Have a heart,please,Barb
=========================================
Barb--
Because I'm fighting back to the lousy healthcare on chronic diseases,
I've probably suffered longer from this disease than most posting here.
My late mother had AD, other relatives died never knowing the cause of
their illness and have eight relatives now suffering from it with no
help in sight. My God, AZ was discovered in 1906, how long do you think
we should wait for a cure??? I've volunteered myself as a subject of
study for the past fifteen years, traveled coast to coast to enter
studies at the nation's most prestigious medical schools, and you know
what, I found NO ONE doing serious studies on AZ except a front to make
the public think there is. So, the question is: who's pocketing the
grant money (paid by the taxpayer) directed towards a specific research
when there's no research???? The medical schools police themselves and
have no "neutral" oversight committees but left to do as they please. Az
research always seems to end with the tangles and plaques. The U.S. has
the technology to go to the moon, and send robots to Mars, but can't
find a cure to AZ, leaving thousands to suffer and die needlessly and
prematurely. After Christopher Columbus, is there no one left willing to
accept new challenges? This disease has far reaching consequences. Yes,
its not an easy thing to watch a loved one suffer from this and that's
why I want answers. Why was there no followup on the late Dr. James R.
Hunt's research but covered up? Government won't do anything to protect
us, so its up to "We the People!"
Eddyjean
Eddy Jean,
    What stage are you in and what is your diagnosis? Did you
take care of your mom?
======================================
Barb--

Why do you want to know, can't wait for my demise? This was all
explained on previous posts. Trying to locate a doctor who studied
viruses is similar to looking for a needle in a haystack, Lacking
knowledge on viruses, doctors mix apples with oranges, Patients
misdiagnosed right and left. Why medical schools have not followed up on
the viral discoveries by the late Dr. James Ramsay Hunt in 1907 or made
an effort to do a serious study, remains a mystery. On chronic diseases,
its guesswork or bandaid medicine.  In some instances, its wise to bring
your own bandaid. I posted two addresses (but rapidly disappeared from
the screen)  to the American Medical Association and to the Director of
Neurology of Columbia University in NYC.  The AMS records all viruses,
write and ask them why the virus that causes Az was never followed up.
Also contact Columbia Universities Neurology Department and ask them
where you can find the late Dr. Hunt's books and research papers.
You'll get your answer. Viruses are a complex study but can be done as
Dr. Hunt proved.
Re: Annoying posts  

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 7:32am From:
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com
On Jan 30, 2:06 am, eddyj...@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote:
Re: Annoying posts
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 11:39am From:
deerwoodflo...@hotmail.com
On Jan 28, 10:34 pm, eddyj...@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote:
Re: Annoying posts
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 7:17pm (PST-1)
From: NO_SPAM_TO_dphar...@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:45:25 -0500 in
alt.support.alzheimers,"Adelle"<adNOsta...@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
We all choose to whom we reply. We *can* simply ignore all posts which
aren't about caretaking or otherwise supportive of the group. That goes
for people who we know are afflicted, have personal axes to grind, have
medical theories which they are propounding, or just want to sell us
something. Nothing is forcing us to finish reading their posts, take
time out of our lives to compose an answer, or hit send. So why do it?
thanks, adelle. i'm glad i'm not the only one who urges folks to simply
"block sender" or killfile folks like this. IF WE DON'T FEED TROLLS THEY
WILL GO AWAY. it's that simple.
=========================================
Ah, the mind controllers have spoken. Since day ONE, this groupie has
tried to stop my posts. Why? They don't want you to know the late Dr.
James Ramsay Hunt discovered the viruses in 1907 that cause AD and other
facial/cranial diseases. The father of Neurology in the U.S.treated
patients nearly 30 years with these diseases before his death. His
obsession was with the facial nerves. I posted TWICE the addresses of
the American Medical Association and the Director of Neurology at
Columbia University in NYC but these posts quickly disappeared. Why
remove my posts, insert sentences into my posts, deny me freedom of
speech in a country that boasts of "Democracy", if what I'm telling you
weren't true?
Eddyjean
Eddy Jean,
            My first thought was to ignore
you.But,you have told us everything now about this man and you insist we
all do something none of us are interested in.Why can't you move on?Is
it because you have nothing else to add to this group?No help for anyone
who is going through hell with a loved one?Do you actually know what we
all are going through? Our loved ones suffer deeply with this
disease.The caretakers suffer even more.You watch your loved one slowly
die.Do you have even one glimpse of what thats like????? For Gods sake
Eddy Jean,give love and support to these people,not anything else unless
you come up with a cure that helps the most deteriorated
alz.patient.Because your posts offer no help to us who are in the midst
off it all.Have a heart,please,Barb
=========================================
Barb--
Because I'm fighting back to the lousy healthcare on chronic diseases,
I've probably suffered longer from this disease than most posting here.
My late mother had AD, other relatives died never knowing the cause of
their illness and have eight relatives now suffering from it with no
help in sight. My God, AZ was discovered in 1906, how long do you think
we should wait for a cure??? I've volunteered myself as a subject of
study for the past fifteen years, traveled coast to coast to enter
studies at the nation's most prestigious medical schools, and you know
what, I found NO ONE doing serious studies on AZ except a front to make
the public think there is. So, the question is: who's pocketing the
grant money (paid by the taxpayer) directed towards a specific research
when there's no research???? The medical schools police themselves and
have no "neutral" oversight committees but left to do as they please. Az
research always seems to end with the tangles and plaques. The U.S. has
the technology to go to the moon, and send robots to Mars, but can't
find a cure to AZ, leaving thousands to suffer and die needlessly and
prematurely. After Christopher Columbus, is there no one left willing to
accept new challenges? This disease has far reaching consequences. Yes,
its not an easy thing to watch a loved one suffer from this and that's
why I want answers. Why was there no followup on the late Dr. James R.
Hunt's research but covered up? Government won't do anything to protect
us, so its up to "We the People!"
Eddyjean
Eddy Jean,
    What stage are you in and what is your diagnosis? Did you
take care of your mom?  
======================================
Barb--

Why do you want to know?
Eddyjean
 
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