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Robin Nemeth - 25 Nov 2007 12:46 GMT

Perhaps you might be interested in my experiences when I decided it
might be a good idea to find out some things about the safety of the
flu shot clinics that are being conducted at area retail stores.

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemeth/clinic_timeline.htm

Although the Department of Health and Human Services vowed, eight
years ago, to remove the mercury based preservative thimerosal from
vaccines, our government and vaccine manufacturers continue to poison
Americans thru toxic flu shots.

Robin Nemeth
http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemeth/vaccine_flyer.htm

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 25 Nov 2007 13:44 GMT

I'm a Canadian, over 50, and both hubby and I had flu shots this year.
He's a diabetic, we're both asthmatics, we've got three kids (16, and
soon to be 14 and 10). We find the kids tend to bring home all kinds
of winter flu like stuff - and we used to get flattened at least once
a season. Since we've been having shots, we've noticed we don't tend
to get big whammy flu - if we do get sick, its much milder.

I'm much more worried about getting laid out by flu or worse..
pneumonia (a common complication) than I am about trace levels of
thimerisol. Routine flu kills a lot of older people every year.

Besides which, preservative free flu shots ARE available. See this
link from the US CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm

M.

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Evelyn Ruut - 25 Nov 2007 14:39 GMT

> I'm a Canadian, over 50, and both hubby and I had flu shots this year.
> He's a diabetic, we're both asthmatics, we've got three kids (16, and
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>
> M.

I get a flu shot every year and haven't had the flu once, since I started
getting the shots about 4 years ago. Whatever the risk, it is worthwhile
for me. There are many areas where we are exposed to mercury, and teeth
fillings are one of the biggest instances. I no longer have any mercury
laden fillings. Eating fish is another risk, yet fish has also been
associated with better health in many areas. Some things it just doesn't
pay to make yourself sick with worry about.

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Evelyn

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sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 25 Nov 2007 21:08 GMT

I haven't missed a flu shot in several years, and have never had the flu!
My cardiologist said to be sure to get one this year. I already had.
Gwen

>> I'm a Canadian, over 50, and both hubby and I had flu shots this year.
>> He's a diabetic, we're both asthmatics, we've got three kids (16, and
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> associated with better health in many areas. Some things it just
> doesn't pay to make yourself sick with worry about.

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Evelyn Ruut - 25 Nov 2007 23:25 GMT

Me too Gwen. I hear all the nonsense reasons why people don't want to get
the shot. The most ridiculous one is thinking they will get the flu from
the shot. My husband used that argument, and it was debunked on TV, and he
finally acquiesced. That said, his arm was very tender this year after
getting the flu shot. I told him that if it made his arm that sore, then
the actual flu itself might have been a very virulent strain that could have
made him VERY sick if he didn't get that shot. If a flu shot makes you
feel ill, you can bet that the real illness itself would have been a killer
strain.

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Evelyn

>I haven't missed a flu shot in several years, and have never had the flu!
>My cardiologist said to be sure to get one this year. I already had.
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>> yet fish has also been associated with better health in many areas.
>> Some things it just doesn't pay to make yourself sick with worry about.

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EddyJean - 26 Nov 2007 05:11 GMT

Re: flu shots

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 9:39am (PST+3)
From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com (Evelyn Ruut)
<Mary_Gordon@tvo.org> wrote in message
news:31c81f90-cf89-46a1-81fb-261a2c4d4a6d@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
I'm a Canadian, over 50, and both hubby and I had flu shots this year.
He's a diabetic, we're both asthmatics, we've got three kids (16, and
soon to be 14 and 10). We find the kids tend to bring home all kinds of
winter flu like stuff - and we used to get flattened at least once a
season. Since we've been having shots, we've noticed we don't tend to
get big whammy flu - if we do get sick, its much milder.
I'm much more worried about getting laid out by flu or worse.. pneumonia
(a common complication) than I am about trace levels of thimerisol.
Routine flu kills a lot of older people every year.
Besides which, preservative free flu shots ARE available. See this link
from the US CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm
M.
I get a flu shot every year and haven't had the flu once, since I
started getting the shots about 4 years ago. Whatever the risk, it
is worthwhile for me. There are many areas where we are exposed to
mercury, and teeth fillings are one of the biggest instances. I no
longer have any mercury laden fillings. Eating fish is another risk,
yet fish has also been associated with better health in many areas.
Some things it just doesn't pay to make yourself sick with worry about.

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Best Regards,
Evelyn

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I haven't had a flu shot for four years and didn't get the flu. If
mercury is nothing to be concerned about, why are the fish dying?

EddyJean

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 26 Nov 2007 12:36 GMT

EddyJean, the fish in the ocean are not dying of mercury poisoning,
and there is considerable evidence to suggest that the mercury in
ocean fish is natural.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/12/031205053316.htm

No one is saying that mercury is not a concern to human health.
However, you CAN get mercury free flu shots.

I'd also suggest in the bigger picture of risk management, for the
frail elderly, flu represents a real danger i.e. if you look at the
stats on who dies from flu, its heavily weghted in the direction of
people who are older and who have a constellation of health problems.
They are like an egg balanced on end, and it doesn't take much to push
them over the edge. Flu is a killer for them, and the faint risk from
trace mercury in the flu shot is much less of a risk to them than
flu.

Everything is a trade off.

M.

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EddyJean - 28 Nov 2007 05:39 GMT

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Nov 26, 2007, 4:36am From:
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org
EddyJean, the fish in the ocean are not dying of mercury poisoning, and
there is considerable evidence to suggest that the mercury in ocean fish
is natural.

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Mary, --many species of fish are dying. Ask the fishermen. There are
harmful ingredients mixed in with petroleum products dumped, or
accidently spilled, into the ocean by freightors, cruise ships and other
fishing vessels. Fish is a fish. Mercury is a liquid metal taken from
the ground, therefore, its very unlikely mercury is natural to a fish.

EddyJean

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EddyJean - 28 Nov 2007 05:47 GMT

No one is saying that mercury is not a concern to human health. However,
you CAN get mercury free flu shots.
Mary
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I asked for mercury-free flu shots last year. No one knew where to get
them, including the doctors.

EddyJean

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RArmant - 26 Nov 2007 22:13 GMT

>I'm much more worried about getting laid out by flu or worse..
>pneumonia (a common complication) than I am about trace levels of
>thimerisol. Routine flu kills a lot of older people every year.

Here in the US there is a pneumonia vaccine that you can get too. You
only need to get it once but some are taking it every 5 years.

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