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Evelyn Ruut - 20 Nov 2007 14:33 GMT
Just to weigh in on this;  My mother in law was always depressed.   As long
as I ever knew her she had some degree of depression.   When she began to
develop alzheimers disease, she got more depressed than ever, seeing herself
lose more and more of her independence, her autonomy.   She threatened
suicide every single day, telling us, telling her neighbors, telling her
friends, she was going to jump off the roof of her house.

Before we finally took her to live with us, she had a prescription from her
doctor for Zoloft, but she would forget when to take it or how much or how
often.   She would live in the same filthy clothing for weeks.  She never
ever walked her dog and the house reeked of urine.   She wasn't eating
properly at all, and when people gave her food, she would give it to the
dog.

We regularized her life.  She got good food, bathed regularly, and had clean
clothing to wear.   We also saw to it that she took her medication
regularly.   She was a lot happier.   She still threatened suicide and cried
a lot, but not as much as before.   The doctor increased the dosage of her
antidepressant medication.   Finally she stopped feeling so bad.   She began
to feel happier and there were even a few times I walked in on her and found
her singing happily to herself.

It was a blessing to have pharmaceutical assistance at a horrible time in
her life.   It made her last few years bearable for her and for us.   As her
illness progressed there were changes and anti-delusional medication was
added.   I have no idea how any of us, or she herself, would have coped with
the great suffering of alzheimers disease without medication.   I feel
deeply sorry for those who had this illness in the past when these drugs
were not in existence.

They are not for everybody.   They are not needed for everybody.  But for
those who do need them, they are a blessing.

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Evelyn

sweetpickleNO@SPAMknology.net - 20 Nov 2007 14:45 GMT
Amen, Evelyn.
Gwen

> Just to weigh in on this;  My mother in law was always depressed.   As
> long as I ever knew her she had some degree of depression.   When she
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> They are not for everybody.   They are not needed for everybody.  But for
> those who do need them, they are a blessing.
June - 20 Nov 2007 19:10 GMT
> Just to weigh in on this;  My mother in law was always depressed.   As
> long as I ever knew her she had some degree of depression.   When she
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> They are not for everybody.   They are not needed for everybody.  But for
> those who do need them, they are a blessing.

When my mother was first diagnosed with dementia back in '93 she was
extremely depressed.   She had never had a problem with depression before
but as we all know this can be part of the early stages of dementia.  She
took Paxil for the depression.   As time went on she didn't need it anymore.
Now she's as happy as can be---all things considered.  She very rarely
realizes that she has memory  problems these days.  Once in a great while
when she can't remember something that she knows she should remember there's
a flash of what's wrong with me.  As with any drug the dosage and the
affects of the medication on the patient needs to be constantly monitored by
a physician.  This is too often a hit and miss proposition in a nursing
home......June
Evelyn Ruut - 20 Nov 2007 21:44 GMT
>> Just to weigh in on this;  My mother in law was always depressed.   As
>> long as I ever knew her she had some degree of depression.   When she
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> monitored by a physician.  This is too often a hit and miss proposition in
> a nursing home......June

There are nursing homes and there are nursing homes.   The one where I put
my mother in law had a rule with new patients.  They took them off ALL
medications and only added back very sparingly depending on re-evaluated and
re-established need.   I was worried about it, but it turned out to be OK.
It is a good practice.   They didn't want the people overmedicated there,
and you didn't see people sleeping all over the place.   They were all alert
and awake.

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Best Regards,

Evelyn

news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 21 Nov 2007 16:32 GMT
That is a nice story and I believe it.   As I said, they do have a big
advantage,    But the consequences to others are the side effects not
noticed.   Probably you did not have any consequences from your MIL's use of
anti-depressants, but your husband may have been more vulnerable (although
some are not depending on circustances)  and they absolutely go unnoticed.
Why in the world would I object to their use if they are so beneficial)
Only because I know their side effects.
Gail
I myself cannot understand why there is such a peculiarity attached.   Who
can I blame, in my frustration,   There is no answer.
Gail

> Just to weigh in on this;  My mother in law was always depressed.   As
> long as I ever knew her she had some degree of depression.   When she
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> They are not for everybody.   They are not needed for everybody.  But for
> those who do need them, they are a blessing.
MikeHi - 23 Nov 2007 22:46 GMT
Hi Tumbleweed

I lurk about here on behalf of my wife, in nursing home.  But you just
made my day with one of the best scientific analyses on all the
evidence presented on this site -and the other I mainly attend, pros
cancer support.

I've just Messengered the following quote from your post to my son and
granddaughter and they've posted back all sots of smileys!

TAMPA (2007-11-14) Who knew that drinking five cups of coffee a day
> could improve your memory? Researchers at the Byrd Alzheimer's Institute
> say their study on genetically-altered mice shows daily intake of
> caffeine can slow - and even reverse - the effects of the disease.

No one knows. Its a misleading headline unless you are a genetically
engineered mouse./ end your comment
...

Please understand -no disprespect to all the advice, I always find it
caring and painstaking. But at times one does sigh......exactly....'I
wish i was an engineered mouse.'
Great- and thanks for a good day Tumbleweed. And best wishes to all
MikeHi
Tumbleweed - 24 Nov 2007 10:06 GMT
> Please understand -no disprespect to all the advice, I always find it
> caring and painstaking. But at times one does sigh......exactly....'I
> wish i was an engineered mouse.'
> Great- and thanks for a good day Tumbleweed. And best wishes to all
> MikeHi

I'm OK ...eeek eeek.

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