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Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting
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EddyJean - 04 Nov 2007 06:31 GMT Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out?
EddyJean
Nina Pretty Ballerina - 06 Nov 2007 08:21 GMT > Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a > viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? > > EddyJean in a group that is supporting those that have, or largely care for someone that has Alz, there is little point working out what caused it....
why dont you go hang out in a medical consipiracy group instead?
Gwenhyffar Milgi - 06 Nov 2007 08:39 GMT >> Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a >> viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > why dont you go hang out in a medical consipiracy group instead? Hmmm, I'm very interested in what caused it, as is my mother. Sure, it won't help my father now, because medical developments go slow, but that doesn't mean we're not interested.
I find the link between HSV-1 and Alzheimer's very interesting and I and my mother have read about a ton of books now on Alzheimer's, its causes, its consequences, you name it. We keep up to date on the latest news in Alzheimer's detection and treatment developments.
Neither of us is interested in conspiracy theories, so we stick to the mainstream accredited sources (such as the link to the BBC article I posted the other day), but we _are_ interested.
EddyJean - 08 Nov 2007 08:49 GMT Nina Pretty Ballerina wrote: "EddyJean" <eddyjean@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5202-472D673B-294@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net... Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? EddyJean in a group that is supporting those that have, or largely care for someone that has Alz, there is little point working out what caused it.... why dont you go hang out in a medical consipiracy group instead? Hm==================================
If you have no desire to find the cause of Alzheimers, why are you here? Mother, family, relatives and me have dementia , isn't this who this site is for?
EddyJean
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 08 Nov 2007 15:08 GMT > If you have no desire to find the cause of Alzheimers, why are you here? > Mother, family, relatives and me have dementia , isn't this who this > site is for? Mary responds: Its not that we don't care about the research. We all do. However, the science is still at the point where they don't know what combination of genetic and environmental factors bring it on, let alone how to stop it in its tracks. Its obviously not a simple thing, nor is the fix going to be simple. It is pointless for lay people to argue causation when the best experts really aren't sure.
I absolutely believe that the day will come when Alzheimer's will be well understood, and there may be very effective treatments that turn it from a death sentence to a manageable chronic condition like diabetes. However, I also know that that day will not come fast enough to save people who are in the throes of it now. Its 10-20-50 years out. Its not imminent.
I also know that there are zillions of people who have had the Alzheimer's label slapped on them (or worse "senile dementia" ) whose dementia is actually from some other cause entirely.
So, as a caregiver, and volunteer, like Evelyn, my primary concerns have to be with adequate assessment and diagnosis, so whatever the root cause, the person gets the best available treatment for their particular underlying cause, AND the practical every day issues around daily living, caregiving, coping, handling finances, legal stuff etc.
Thats the stuff we can help each other with.
Mary G.
Evelyn Ruut - 08 Nov 2007 15:52 GMT >> If you have no desire to find the cause of Alzheimers, why are you here? >> Mother, family, relatives and me have dementia , isn't this who this [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Mary G. Bravo! Well said, and very true.....
:-)  Signature Best Regards,
Evelyn
EddyJean - 10 Nov 2007 08:40 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2007, 7:08am From: Mary_Gordon@tvo.org EddyJean wrote: If you have no desire to find the cause of Alzheimers, why are you here? Mother, family, relatives and me have dementia , isn't this who this site is for? Mary responds: Its not that we don't care about the research. We all do. However, the science is still at the point where they don't know what combination of genetic and environmental factors bring it on, let alone how to stop it in its tracks. Its obviously not a simple thing, nor is the fix going to be simple. It is pointless for lay people to argue causation when the best experts really aren't sure. I absolutely believe that the day will come when Alzheimer's will be well understood, and there may be very effective treatments that turn it from a death sentence to a manageable chronic condition like diabetes. However, I also know that that day will not come fast enough to save people who are in the throes of it now. Its 10-20-50 years out. Its not imminent. I also know that there are zillions of people who have had the Alzheimer's label slapped on them (or worse "senile dementia" ) whose dementia is actually from some other cause entirely. So, as a caregiver, and volunteer, like Evelyn, my primary concerns have to be with adequate assessment and diagnosis, so whatever the root cause, the person gets the best available treatment for their particular underlying cause, AND the practical every day issues around daily living, caregiving, coping, handling finances, legal stuff etc. Thats the stuff we can help each other with. Mary G. ====================================
Mary, we're no closer to a cure for AD then when it was first discovered. We're no closer to a cure for Lou Gehrig's Disease discovered in the early 1900s. No cures on the horizon for MS, AlS, Chronic Fatigue, on and on the list grows, just live with it doctors say. Yes, science is still at a point where they don't know what combination of genetic and environmental factors bring it on but this will never change without serious research. I visited the nation's top research center and there's no research on AD or other cranial diseases. It's anyone's guess who's getting the funds from government grants and private donations directed towards a specific study. If no one knows the cause of AD, and no serious studies, where are those "best experts" your referring to? If you know, please provide me with names and contact information.
Most know a cold is caused from a virus. Many complications stem from a cold: The pharmaceutical companies would lose millions/billions if a cure were found. Same scenario for AD. AD is a complex study but can be done with a dedicated researcher at the helm. When it comes to war and outerspace, money's no object; however, when it comes to the needs of the people, "Sorry folks, there's no money.
EddyJean
EddyJean - 10 Nov 2007 09:58 GMT in a group that is supporting those that have, or largely care for someone that has Alz, there is little point working out what caused it.... why dont you go hang out in a medical consipiracy group instead?
Nina, Pretty Ballerina =====================================
Don't want to, I like it here.
EddyJean
Evelyn Ruut - 06 Nov 2007 13:29 GMT >> Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a >> viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > why dont you go hang out in a medical consipiracy group instead? Exactly.
I have read all the theories, and heard all the sensible possibilities as well as the total and complete crazies, in the ten or so years I have been posting here and looking into it. You don't want to know how many nutters there are out there!
No matter what the CAUSE was,.... in caring for my mother in law;
I wanted to know HOW to get her to take a bath without it being a federal case.
I needed to know HOW to answer her with her repetitive questions, that would soothe her troubled mind.
I needed to know HOW to get her to eat healthily, and sensibly.
I needed to know HOW to get her to keep her fluid intake up to prevent UTI's.
I needed to know HOW to keep her busy and find activities she still COULD do.
I needed to know WHAT were the legal ramifications involved in caring for her.
I needed to know HOW to help her to get a decent nights sleep without maybe wandering out of the house looking for delusional things that weren't there.
I needed to know HOW to get her to stop crying and threatening to kill herself because she was "so confused" (her words).
I needed to know HOW to get her to recognize her new clothing that she kept insisting was mine.
I needed to know HOW to get her to consent to going to daycare, or to stay in peace with a sitter when I needed to go to the store or leave her at home for a moment.
I needed to know HOW to care for her without completely exhausting myself, emotionally, physically, and mentally.
THAT is what this newsgroup does best. Supports caregivers, and that's what I got here, and others can still get here. All the rest was pie in the sky baloney...... AND IT STILL IS.
 Signature Best Regards,
Evelyn
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 06 Nov 2007 13:53 GMT > >> Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a > >> viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Evelyn Evelyn, Amen to you.
EddyJean - 10 Nov 2007 09:36 GMT WHAT this newsgroup is for..... (was Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting) Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Tue, Nov 6, 2007, 8:29am (PST+3) From: evelyn.ruut@gmail.com (Evelyn Ruut) "Nina Pretty Ballerina" <abba@arrival.com> wrote in message news:47302415$0$8738$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... "EddyJean" <eddyjean@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5202-472D673B-294@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net... Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? EddyJean in a group that is supporting those that have, or largely care for someone that has Alz, there is little point working out what caused it.... why dont you go hang out in a medical consipiracy group instead? Exactly. I have read all the theories, and heard all the sensible possibilities as well as the total and complete crazies, in the ten or so years I have been posting here and looking into it. You don't want to know how many nutters there are out there! No matter what the CAUSE was,.... in caring for my mother in law; I wanted to know HOW to get her to take a bath without it being a federal case. I needed to know HOW to answer her with her repetitive questions, that would soothe her troubled mind. I needed to know HOW to get her to eat healthily, and sensibly. I needed to know HOW to get her to keep her fluid intake up to prevent UTI's. I needed to know HOW to keep her busy and find activities she still COULD do. I needed to know WHAT were the legal ramifications involved in caring for her. I needed to know HOW to help her to get a decent nights sleep without maybe wandering out of the house looking for delusional things that weren't there. I needed to know HOW to get her to stop crying and threatening to kill herself because she was "so confused" (her words). I needed to know HOW to get her to recognize her new clothing that she kept insisting was mine. I needed to know HOW to get her to consent to going to daycare, or to stay in peace with a sitter when I needed to go to the store or leave her at home for a moment. I needed to know HOW to care for her without completely exhausting myself, emotionally, physically, and mentally. THAT is what this newsgroup does best. Supports caregivers, and that's what I got here, and others can still get here. All the rest was pie in the sky baloney...... AND IT STILL IS.
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Well, Evelyn, if there was more effort made to push for a cure, and stop researchers from drinking coffee all day, there wouldn't be much need for AD caregivers, wouldn't that be a happy day?
EddyJean
P.S. Oh, everything is pie in the sky baloney but still haven't given a scientific answer why a viral infection is not the cause of AD?
Tumbleweed - 09 Nov 2007 01:28 GMT > Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a > viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? > > EddyJean Anyone who expects 'scientific evidence' to prove a negative doesn't know what 'scientific evidence' is.
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Dennis P. Harris - 09 Nov 2007 07:27 GMT > Anyone who expects 'scientific evidence' to prove a negative doesn't know > what 'scientific evidence' is. if you don't feed this troll she/he will go away.
hint: loonies like this are why killfiles were invented.
EddyJean - 10 Nov 2007 07:04 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2007, 10:27pm (PST-1) From: NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris) On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:28:57 -0000 in alt.support.alzheimers, "Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote: Anyone who expects 'scientific evidence' to prove a negative doesn't know what 'scientific evidence' is. if you don't feed this troll she/he will go away. hint: loonies like this are why killfiles were invented.
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Since you still haven't answered with scientific evidence that Alzheimers is not caused from a viral infection, but used a "filter" as an excuse to keep from answering, I doubt many put much credence in anything you said. Dennis is a troll. Dennis is a troll.
EddyJean
EddyJean - 09 Nov 2007 07:29 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Nov 9, 2007, 1:28am (PST+8) From: thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com (Tumbleweed) "EddyJean" <eddyjean@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5202-472D673B-294@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net... Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? EddyJean Anyone who expects 'scientific evidence' to prove a negative doesn't know what 'scientific evidence' is.
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Heard of Galileo, Tumbleweed? He was ridiculed and jailed for believing the earth was round as everyone else said it was flat.
EddyJean
June - 10 Nov 2007 13:47 GMT > Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Anyone who expects 'scientific evidence' to prove a negative doesn't > know what 'scientific evidence' is. Sorry Dennis and TW, you fed the troll first so I'll give my two cents. Just common sense here. I don't think a viral infection would be so picky as to only chose old people. Children would die. Granted more money, time and energy could be given for research into the causes and cures for AD but deciding that all AD is caused by a viral infection and saying that fact needs to be disproved is irresponsible. AD is rotten, cancer is rotten, Parkinson's is rotten. I could go on, but trying lay blame in the wrong place and not listening to reason can be part of a mental illness. Now EddyJean, please get the help you need. ........June
EddyJean - 12 Nov 2007 06:03 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 8:47am (PST+3) From: NoSpam@yahoo.com (June) "EddyJean" <eddyjean@webtv.net> wrote in message news:16461-47340C67-115@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net... Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Nov 9, 2007, 1:28am (PST+8) From: thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com (Tumbleweed) "EddyJean" <eddyjean@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5202-472D673B-294@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net... Where's the scientific evidence Alzheimer's Disease is NOT caused from a viral infection or still using the filters as an excuse to cop out? EddyJean Anyone who expects 'scientific evidence' to prove a negative doesn't know what 'scientific evidence' is.
 Signature Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com ================================ Heard of Galileo, Tumbleweed? He was ridiculed and jailed for believing the earth was round as everyone else said it was flat. EddyJean Sorry Dennis and TW, you fed the troll first so I'll give my two cents. Just common sense here. I don't think a viral infection would be so picky as to only chose old people. Children would die. Granted more money, time and energy could be given for research into the causes and cures for AD but deciding that all AD is caused by a viral infection and saying that fact needs to be disproved is irresponsible. AD is rotten, cancer is rotten, Parkinson's is rotten. I could go on, but trying lay blame in the wrong place and not listening to reason can be part of a mental illness. Now EddyJean, please get the help you need. ........June
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Your barking up the wrong tree, June. How many Ph.D's do you have to evaluate mental illness, who do you recommend I see?
EddyJean
June - 12 Nov 2007 13:23 GMT > Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > EddyJean Your family physician can you give a referral. BTW You don't have to be a squirrel to recognize a nut. I'm afraid I too will have to block you. This newsgroup is for support for caregivers. I find nothing productive in your posts......June
EddyJean - 13 Nov 2007 05:24 GMT Your barking up the wrong tree, June. How many Ph.D's do you have to evaluate mental illness, who do you recommend I see? EddyJean Your family physician can you give a referral. BTW You don't have to be a squirrel to recognize a nut. I'm afraid I too will have to block you. This newsgroup is for support for caregivers. I find nothing productive in your posts......June
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This newsgroup is for caregivers, dementia and AD. You, and the others previously mentioned, act as if you own this group, is there something your hiding from this group? You have a right to block anyone you want. Bye Bye!
EddyJean
Baird Stafford - 13 Nov 2007 10:57 GMT > This newsgroup is for caregivers, dementia and AD. You, and the others > previously mentioned, act as if you own this group, is there something > your hiding from this group? You have a right to block anyone you want. > Bye Bye! Plonk!
Baird
Bud - 13 Nov 2007 17:14 GMT >> This newsgroup is for caregivers, dementia and AD. You, and the others >> previously mentioned, act as if you own this group, is there something >> your hiding from this group? You have a right to block anyone you want. >> Bye Bye!
> Plonk! > > Baird Yeah, she (?) sounds more like wanting to start an argument or just trolling, so I will also...
Plonk!
Bud
EddyJean - 15 Nov 2007 07:26 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 12:14pm (PST+3) From: bud@romance.org (Bud) eddyjean@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote: This newsgroup is for caregivers, dementia and AD. You, and the others previously mentioned, act as if you own this group, is there something your hiding from this group? You have a right to block anyone you want. Bye Bye! Plonk! Baird Yeah, she (?) sounds more like wanting to start an argument or just trolling, so I will also... Plonk! Bud ===================================== Bud--
Your have a short memory. It was Dennis who started the name calling.
EddyJean - 28 Nov 2007 06:25 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 11:26pm From: eddyjean@webtv.net (EddyJean) Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 12:14pm (PST+3) From: bud@romance.org (Bud) eddyjean@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote: This newsgroup is for caregivers, dementia and AD. You, and the others previously mentioned, act as if you own this group, is there something your hiding from this group? You have a right to block anyone you want. Bye Bye! Plonk! Baird Yeah, she (?) sounds more like wanting to start an argument or just trolling, so I will also... Plonk! Bud ===================================== Bud-- Your have a short memory. It was Dennis who started the name calling.
====================================== Did I say otherwise, Budsy? There was name calling besides Dennis in Yr-2003. EddyJean
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 10 Nov 2007 17:17 GMT EddyJean, I just looked at your history and you were arguing the exact same stuff in 2003 in this same forum. No one wants to hash this same thing out again. It doesn't really matter to the caregiver what the cause of AD is, unless there is a cure or treatment that will help their loved one NOW or in the very imminent future.
Can we not agree that the state of the science is still uncertain? It might be a virus. It might be genetics. It might be immune system. It might be a metabolic error. It might be diet. It might be lots of things. None of us can say with any certainty, so there is no nothing concrete to fight for or against in terms of an opinion that matters. I might be convinced its from wearing white shoes after Labor Day, and it would be hard to prove me wrong.
The cause doesn't make an iota's bit of difference in terms of looking after the afflicted person, so can we move back to caregiving concerns?
Thanks
M.
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 12 Nov 2007 04:19 GMT On Nov 10, 11:17 am, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
> EddyJean, I just looked at your history and you were arguing the exact > same stuff in 2003 in this same forum. No one wants to hash this same [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > M. Mary wrote, . It doesn't really matter to the caregiver what the cause of AD is, unless there is a cure or treatment that will help their loved one NOW or in the very imminent future.
Mary ,i have to disagree here.I do care because i need to think of the possibility of it happening to me.I am NOT agreeing with Eddy Jean but i would love to find a way to stop this disease before my family is taking care of me,Barb
EddyJean - 12 Nov 2007 07:34 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 9:17am From: Mary_Gordon@tvo.org EddyJean, I just looked at your history and you were arguing the exact same stuff in 2003 in this same forum. No one wants to hash this same thing out again. It doesn't really matter to the caregiver what the cause of AD is, unless there is a cure or treatment that will help their loved one NOW or in the very imminent future. Can we not agree that the state of the science is still uncertain? It might be a virus. It might be genetics. It might be immune system. It might be a metabolic error. It might be diet. It might be lots of things. None of us can say with any certainty, so there is no nothing concrete to fight for or against in terms of an opinion that matters. I might be convinced its from wearing white shoes after Labor Day, and it would be hard to prove me wrong. The cause doesn't make an iota's bit of difference in terms of looking after the afflicted person, so can we move back to caregiving concerns? Thanks M.
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Why, Mary, I never objected to reading posts on caregiving so why object reading my views on a cure for AD? If you want to return to caregiving news, go ahead. I'm not trying to stop you.. Since I wrote the same thing in 2003 as I do now, it must be true. AD is caused by a viral infection. Goodness sakes, Is this a conspiracy of sorts?. Dennis, the troll, Tumbleweed, another troll, Evelyn, the know it all, and you, want to squash my right to freedom of speech, so what are you all afraid of, --the truth? Oh, by the way, since Dennis, the controlling troll, (as if viewers don't have the intelligence to make up their own minds} first alerted the viewers from his ivory tower to killfile the insane troll and is interested only in scientific facts, I've asked Dennis three times for scientific facts on why AD is not caused by a viral infection but doesn't respond. I've asked you, Mary, for the names and contact information of those "smart experts" you were referring to, but avoid the question too. Dennis called me names first without provocation, opposes my views, but has no facts to back it up. Now, that's what I call a "Loonie." I don't know how many Ph.D's you have in psychiatry, Mary, but who do you suggest I go to? Don't forget the names of those "smart experts."
EddyJean
Sarah Kanary - 12 Nov 2007 19:47 GMT > Why, Mary, I never objected to reading posts on caregiving so why object > reading my views on a cure for AD? If you want to return to caregiving > news, go ahead. I'm not trying to stop you.. Since I wrote the same > thing in 2003 as I do now, it must be true. AD is caused by a viral > infection. Goodness sakes, Is this a conspiracy of sorts?. Have you ever cared for an Alzheimer's patient?
The ultimate cure for all disease will not be brought about by man, but by God. http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020501/article_02.htm
Meantime, we have to strengthen ourselves to deal as best we can. And one of the ways is by sharing support with others who have the same caregiving issues we do. After all, this IS an Alzheimer's SUPPORT group.
Peace to you and yours.
EddyJean - 14 Nov 2007 06:58 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 2:47pm (PST+3) From: skanary@yahoo.com (Sarah Kanary) "EddyJean" <eddyjean@webtv.net> wrote in message news:27486-473801EE-416@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net... Why, Mary, I never objected to reading posts on caregiving so why object reading my views on a cure for AD? If you want to return to caregiving news, go ahead. I'm not trying to stop you.. Since I wrote the same thing in 2003 as I do now, it must be true. AD is caused by a viral infection. Goodness sakes, Is this a conspiracy of sorts?. Have you ever cared for an Alzheimer's patient? The ultimate cure for all disease will not be brought about by man, but by God. http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020501/article_02.htm Meantime, we have to strengthen ourselves to deal as best we can. And one of the ways is by sharing support with others who have the same caregiving issues we do. After all, this IS an Alzheimer's SUPPORT group. Peace to you and yours.
==================================== Yes, God can cure all diseases but do you know when that time will come? In the meantime, shall the sick continue to needlessly suffer and die, or should we use the brain God gave us to find a solution? I do not object reading other viewpoints on caregiving, and never did. Some of it quite good I might say; however, why do you oppose any suggestion on an AD cure? If you don't know, a cure has already been discovered but the work covered up, Does it give you pleasure to discuss only caregiving as people suffer and die for eons to come when it could have been prevented because of a cure?
EddyJean
EddyJean - 13 Nov 2007 06:34 GMT Re: Dennis & Evelyn, I'm still waiting Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 9:17am From: Mary_Gordon@tvo.org EddyJean, I just looked at your history and you were arguing the exact same stuff in 2003 in this same forum. No one wants to hash this same thing out again. It doesn't really matter to the caregiver what the cause of AD is, unless there is a cure or treatment that will help their loved one NOW or in the very imminent future. Can we not agree that the state of the science is still uncertain? It might be a virus. It might be genetics. It might be immune system. It might be a metabolic error. It might be diet. It might be lots of things. None of us can say with any certainty, so there is no nothing concrete to fight for or against in terms of an opinion that matters. I might be convinced its from wearing white shoes after Labor Day, and it would be hard to prove me wrong. The cause doesn't make an iota's bit of difference in terms of looking after the afflicted person, so can we move back to caregiving concerns? Thanks M.
====================================== Mary, Why all the emphasis on "Caregiving?" Apparently, we should all be sick and have no interest in finding cures? Perhaps your not aware of what this terrible disease can do to a person? When there's no research, except lies, how can there be anything concrete? Since there are no "neutral" oversight committees at most medical schools, it's anyone's guess who's pocketing funds from government grants and private donations directed towards specific diseases. The only so-called "research' I'm aware of is surveys posted on newsgroups or innformation stolen from the patients' medical records. Dennis, Tumbleweed and Evelyn have gone into hiding once again. Dennis, the scientific factual guy, just can't seem to produce evidence that AD is not caused from a viral infection. I also requested names and contact information on the "smart experts" but can't get that either, A cure for AD was discovered by a brilliant physician in the early 1900s, treated patients with it, but his "masterful" work was covered up. Chew on that for a while, folks.
EddyJean
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