Makes sense since those drugs improve .. blood .. **flow** TO the
brain.
Anti-Hypertensive Drugs May Help Prevent and Treat Alzheimer's Disease
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ALZHEIMER'S, DISEASE, MEMORY, DEMENTIA, HYPERTENSION, HIGH, BLOOD
PRESSURE, DRUGS, ANTI-HYPERTENSION, MEDICATION, COGNITIVE, PASINETTI,
MOUNT SINAI
Newswise - A new study has identified commonly prescribed drugs for
the treatment of hypertension may be capable of preventing Alzheimer's
disease and cognitive deterioration.
The new research, published in the November 2007 issue of the The
Journal of Clinical Investigation, conducted by Dr. Giulio Maria
Pasinetti, M.D., Ph.D., Professor of Psychiatry and Neuroscience,
Geriatrics and Adult Development and Director of the Center of
Excellence for Research in Complementary and Alternative Medicine in
Alzheimer's disease at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, suggests that a
large number of geriatric patients currently under pharmacological
treatment for high-blood pressure with certain anti-hypertensive drugs
might reap the additional benefits of the drug's cognitive effects.
"If we can deliver certain anti-hypertensive drugs to patients at high
risk to develop Alzheimer's disease, at doses that do not affect blood
pressure, these drugs could be made available for all members of the
geriatric population identified as being at high risk for developing
Alzheimer's disease," said Dr. Pasinetti.
Study Results
Over the past two years, investigators directed by Dr. Pasinetti at
Mount Sinai have been screening more than 1,500 drugs that are already
commercially available for treatment of other disorders, to determine
their potential value in treating Alzheimer's disease and cognitive
impairment.
Based on the outcomes from initial drug screening, Dr. Pasinetti and
his collaborators identified 7out of 55 candidate drugs commonly
prescribed for the treatment of hypertension, which are capable of
significantly preventing beta-amyloid production, which is a major
mechanism recently identified as playing a key role in Alzheimer's
disease pathogenesis, particularly in respect to promotion of memory
loss and dementia. In this new study, Dr. Pasinetti reports that mice
genetically determined to develop Alzheimer's disease beta-amyloid
production and subsequent cognitive deterioration, significantly
benefit from the treatment with the anti-hypertensive agent Valsartan,
found to pharmacologically prevent beta-amyloid production in the
brain even when delivered to Alzheimer' disease mice at doses 3-4 fold
lower than the minimal equivalent dose prescribed for the treatment of
hypertension in humans. Other anti-hypertension drugs with beneficial
results included Propranolol HCI, Carvedilol, Losartan, Nicardipine
HCI, Amiloride HCI and Hydralazine HCI.
Showing the use of anti-hypertensive drugs with anti- beta-amyloid
production activities in the brain of Alzheimer' disease mice, will
help in the identification of future, novel disease- modifying
pharmacological treatments for the prevention of cognitive
deterioration and eventually dementia in Alzheimer's disease.
Future Research
Dr. Pasinetti recognizes the limitations of the research, noting that
studies must be immediately verified in human subjects to verify the
effect of the drugs on cognitive deterioration and memory functions
independent of their role as an anti-hypertensive agent.
"The use of these drugs for their potential anti-Alzheimer's disease
role is still highly experimental, and at this stage we have no
clinical data beyond phenomenological observation in humans" said Dr.
Pasinetti. "We need to complete preventive and therapeutic clinical
trials in the near future if we are to identify certain anti-
hypertensive drugs with anti beta-amyloid antioligomeric activities,
which will need to be prescribed at dosages that do not interfere with
blood pressure in normotensive Alzheimer's disease patients."
Dr. Pasinetti's research is part of a growing push to identify and
develop more effective treatments for Alzheimer's disease. This
devastating, degenerative illness is of particular concern for baby
boomers beginning to turn 60, at increased risk of developing
cognitive deterioration and Alzheimer's disease.
About The Mount Sinai Medical Center
The Mount Sinai Medical Center encompasses The Mount Sinai Hospital
and Mount Sinai School of Medicine. The Mount Sinai Hospital is one of
the nation's oldest, largest and most-respected voluntary hospitals.
Founded in 1852, Mount Sinai today is a 1,171-bed tertiary-care
teaching facility that is internationally acclaimed for excellence in
clinical care. Last year, nearly 50,000 people were treated at Mount
Sinai as inpatients, and there were nearly 450,000 outpatient visits
to the Medical Center.
Mount Sinai School of Medicine is internationally recognized as a
leader in groundbreaking clinical and basic-science research, as well
as having an innovative approach to medical education. With a faculty
of more than 3,400 in 38 clinical and basic science departments and
centers, Mount Sinai ranks among the top 20 medical schools in receipt
of National Institute of Health (NIH) grants.
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© 2007 Newswise. All Rights Reserved.
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ferrous@paris.com - 29 Oct 2007 14:51 GMT
"Makes sense since those drugs improve .. blood .. **flow** TO the
brain."
What we really need is a good altitude drug.
Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.
ironjustice - 29 Oct 2007 19:16 GMT
>> On Oct 29, 6:51 am, ferr...@paris.com wrote:
What we really need is a good altitude drug.<<
You are .. correct ..
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ferrous#@paris.com - 29 Oct 2007 20:36 GMT
What we really need is a good altitude drug because the cause of all
disease is altitude.
Jesus lived mostly at a low altitude.
Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.
William Stacy, O.D. - 30 Oct 2007 07:07 GMT
> Makes sense since those drugs improve .. blood .. **flow** TO the
> brain.
> "If we can deliver certain anti-hypertensive drugs to patients at high
> risk to develop Alzheimer's disease, at doses that do not affect blood
> pressure,
Sounds like quackery to me. Drugs for hypertension decrease blood
pressure, and thereby decrease blood flow to the brain. For people who
need lower BP, this is vital and lifesaving. Any such decrease must be
weighed against possible concurrent loss in brain function.
Delivering these meds at so low a dose that they don't affect blood
pressure simply means diluting them down to where they are innefective,
and probably innefective for any treatment of any disease. Not to
mention probably killing the patient.
bigvince - 30 Oct 2007 14:26 GMT
> ironjust...@aol.com wrote:
> > Makes sense since those drugs improve .. blood .. **flow** TO the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> need lower BP, this is vital and lifesaving. Any such decrease must be
> weighed against possible concurrent loss in brain function.
Some not all blood pressure drugs decrease blood flow and hence oxygen
too the brain. Beta blockers do this as do diuretics .The class of
drugs here [ ARBS] do not have that effect as they essentially
increase the diameter of the blood vessels reducing pressure but not
blood flow. Many conventional doctors suspect that at least in some
Alzheimers may be related to insulin. ARBS tend to effect insulin
resistance and that not blood flow may be the reason they may have a
role here.
Thanks Vince
RArmant - 30 Oct 2007 19:26 GMT
The full research article can be found at --
http://content.the-jci.org/articles/view/31547
>> ironjust...@aol.com wrote:
>> > Makes sense since those drugs improve .. blood .. **flow** TO the
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>role here.
>Thanks Vince
ironjustice - 30 Oct 2007 17:00 GMT
Drugs for hypertension decrease blood
pressure, and thereby decrease blood flow to the brain. <<
Did you read that somewhere .. ?
PRESSURE ..
Maybe you should go into physics .. you would be destroyed in a
second ..
Pressure .. imagine .. this ..
a funnel ..
You know a regular funnel you use to put oil in your car ..
Now the pressure at the top where you put the oil in the funnel is ..
nil .. no pressure because .. ? .. the area where the oil is is ..
great .. there is nothing holding the oil .. back.
Now at the neck or throat of the funnel the pressure gets greater ..
because .. ? .. the throat is a very small area ..
This very small area NOW creates .. resistance .. and therefore
BACKFLOW and now .. pressure ..
The further down the funnel as it gets even SMALLER the backflow
gets .. greater .. and therefore the PRESSURE gets .. greater .. and
then right at the very end of the funnel where it goes into your
engine the pressure is the greatest because that is the smallest point
of the funnel..
Soooo .. just because the pressure goes DOWN doesn't .. necessarily
mean the **flow** is decreased .. it could simply mean the PRESSURE
has gone down .. due to .. ? ..
Your scenario .. OR .. ? .. the viscosity of the fluid is NOW ..
thinner therefore leading to less .. backflow .. leading to less
pressure ..
Sooo .. is the viscosity of the blood changing at the SAME TIME .. ?
Due to many different reasons one of which can be increased red blood
cell production and / or hemolysis .. which DECREASES the size of
the .. funnel .. due to .. ? .. nitric oxide depletion.
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ironjustice - 30 Oct 2007 20:05 GMT
>> On Oct 30, 9:00 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette.com> wrote:one of which can be increased red blood
cell production <<
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> the .. funnel .. due to .. ? .. nitric oxide depletion
> Drugs for hypertension decrease blood
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>
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William Stacy, O.D. - 31 Oct 2007 05:37 GMT
> Drugs for hypertension decrease blood
> pressure, and thereby decrease blood flow to the brain. <<
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> Now at the neck or throat of the funnel the pressure gets greater ..
> because .. ? .. the throat is a very small area ..
I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I do know that hydraulic
pressure is the same at a given fluid level irregardless of aperture
size. You could invert the funnel and the pressure at the bottom (now
wide end) would be the same as that at the narrow end with the funnel in
the upright position.
it depends solely on the volume of fluid above the point of pressure
reading.
elementary physics...
ironjustice - 04 Nov 2007 20:25 GMT
>> On Oct 30, 9:37 pm, "William Stacy, O.D." <wst...@obase.net> wrote:I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I do know that hydraulic
pressure is the same at a given fluid level irregardless of aperture
size. You could invert the funnel and the pressure at the bottom (now
wide end) would be the same as that at the narrow end with the funnel
in
the upright position.
it depends solely on the volume of fluid above the point of pressure
reading. elementary physics... <<
I thought maybe you would .. assume .. the **pressure** would BE ..
constant .. therefore .. the aperture .. WOULD make a difference..
I thought since you KNEW it was governed by a .. pump / heart ..
therefore you would KNOW .. IE: assume .. the pressure .. would BE ,,
there .. IE: volume of fluid above the point of pressure reading ..
I guess I was .. wrong ..
We are speaking of a human living body .. one which the pressure is
constant / heart / pump .. the viscosity of the fluid .. is
different .. therefore .. the viscosity IN this case IS .. the
aperature ..
If you see what I mean ..
So .. the pressure can go down .. but the viscosity and blood flow ..
change.
Sooo .. the pressure can go down BUT since the blood is NOW free
flowing .. the perfusion .. is INCREASED ..
Again .. if you see what I .. mean ..
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> > Drugs for hypertension decrease blood
> > pressure, and thereby decrease blood flow to the brain. <<
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>
> - Show quoted text -
William Stacy, O.D. - 05 Nov 2007 03:11 GMT
> We are speaking of a human living body .. one which the pressure is
> constant / heart / pump .. the viscosity of the fluid .. is
> different .. therefore .. the viscosity IN this case IS .. the
> aperature ..
Excuse me? That is nonsense. And poorly written nonsense at that. Go
back to high school and learn some english, some physics, some biology...
maybe it's too late for you...
ironjustice - 05 Nov 2007 04:05 GMT
On Nov 4, 8:11 pm, "William Stacy, O.D." <wst...@obase.net> wrote:<<
Therefore since you turn tail .. I'll assume you have **agreed** blood
pressure does NOT equate to .. perfusion ..
Glad .. I could set you .. straight ..
And the rest of it ..
Your round about way of saying .. thank you .. ?
EAT .. me ..
In kind ..
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bigvince - 04 Nov 2007 23:02 GMT
> I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I do know that hydraulic
> pressure is the same at a given fluid level irregardless of aperture
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> it depends solely on the volume of fluid above the point of pressure
> reading.
But when you increase volume{ open appeture } you decrease pressure
in the appeture and increase flow . Translates to more oxygen to
brain not less.Perhaps need brush up on physics.
Thanks Vince
William Stacy, O.D. - 05 Nov 2007 03:13 GMT
> But when you increase volume{ open appeture } you decrease pressure
> in the appeture and increase flow . Translates to more oxygen to
> brain not less.Perhaps need brush up on physics.
Sorry, but you are as loony as ironjustice. My advice to you is the
same as that to him/her/it...