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Why reply to a troll - at least once....ping Dennis

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Evelyn Ruut - 22 Aug 2007 14:24 GMT
Hi Dennis,

I might reply to a troll once, simply because I care about the gullible
people who just might be inclined to believe them.   I don't give a hoot
about the troll, I only care about the misinformation they spread which
could be harmful to others.

If it is an obvious troll, posting gibberish or abusing people (we both know
what I am speaking of) I don't bother at all and just ignore them.    It is
the ones who sound half way serious in their delusions that get my
attention.

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Best Regards,

Evelyn

Baird Stafford - 22 Aug 2007 22:10 GMT
> I might reply to a troll once, simply because I care about the gullible
> people who just might be inclined to believe them.   I don't give a hoot
> about the troll, I only care about the misinformation they spread which
> could be harmful to others.

FWIW, I apply the same standard and have for the seventeen years or so
I've been on usenet.  I dislike disinformation, no mater what its
source, and will debunk the more "rational" sounding stuff when I see it.

Blessed be,
Baird
Evelyn Ruut - 22 Aug 2007 22:55 GMT
>> I might reply to a troll once, simply because I care about the gullible
>> people who just might be inclined to believe them.   I don't give a hoot
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> Blessed be,
> Baird

Yes.  Some of these nuts seem to be drawn to newsgroups like flies to sugar.
They can't get anyone to listen to their inanities in real life, so they
spew their crap here.   I would like to feel sorry for them, but it is hard
to do that.

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Best Regards,

Evelyn

Boydette - 26 Aug 2007 20:11 GMT
I agree with Evelyn I sometimes feel the need to set the record straight
for others that might be listening to this dribble and although I think
this one as Evelyn said seems troll(ish) I really think he is more just
mislead in his intentions...and the language barrier seems to be the
real problem here...I dont know but he seems harmless to me JMO

Dennis I got labeled as a troll a few times because people didnt LIKE
ME or the disagreed with my posts..it is very heart rending to be
accused of being a troll just because youre different and the more you
try to defend yourself the more they torture you...sometimes the ones
accusing others of being trolls are the ones who flame the fires the
most...I am NOT saying that is what you are doing I am just saying
unless a poster is being nasty and hateful and trying to argue I see no
reason to ignore someone just because YOU dont like them and then tell
others to ignore them...did I say that right??
LOL..I hope you know what I mean :)
Dennis P. Harris - 27 Aug 2007 04:09 GMT
> I am NOT saying that is what you are doing I am just saying
> unless a poster is being nasty and hateful and trying to argue I see no
> reason to ignore someone just because YOU dont like them and then tell
> others to ignore them.

it has nothing to do with liking them.  it has everything to do
with the fact that trolls like mr. ironjustice and this argentine
idiot 1) insist on repeatedly posting MISinformation.  they
believe that if they repeat a lie often enough, it will be
believed, 2) it's useless to try convince them otherwise and 3)
they love to disrupt the blogs or groups where they post.

they only do this WHEN PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO THEM.  if everyone
completely ignores them and acts as if they never posted, they
will try posting their nonsense several more times to see if they
can get a rise out of someone.  once no one pays them any
attention, they will go away to a newsgroup where people like you
will continue to argue with them.

when someone's sole purpose in life is to preach constantly about
something that's either not true or doesn't matter to anyone,
ignoring them is NOT being nasty or hateful.

in your particular case, i killfiled you because you were stuck
in a loop.  in every post over several months, you complained
about problems dealing with your parents and how stressful it
was, but would not listen to repeated advice that you needed to
take a break, disconnect from your parents, and do other things
to reduce your stress and gain control of your life.  

i was blunt, not "hateful" in telling you that you needed to take
some action instead of just complaining over and over and over
and over.  it's called "tough love".

i never called you a troll.  and i am happy that you seem to be
getting back in control of your life and staying on an even keel
emotionally.  believe me, after being the caregiver of a bipolar
mother, i know that it's not easy for you.
Boydette - 31 Aug 2007 03:20 GMT
Dennis....just to clarify...if I repeated myself it was because the
events in my life were repeating themself...AND it wasnt that I was
ignoring advice...I was new at this and getting it with BOTH parents at
the same time...and as you know have my own mental health issues

I tried the advice given and it didnt work in MY case...its like I just
told my daughter who is trying to give me advice on how to handle my
aggresive sister...the dynamic of our relationship was set a LONG LONG
time ago...being 55 years old its kind of hard to start treating a
family member differently even if it is NOT the best way to handle
it...I did not have it in me to be demanding or try to tell my parents
what to do...and I am sorry if my INSISTENT cares caused you to think I
wasnt listening..

really what it all boils down it is THIS...these are just words on a
screen if you could hear my voice or if you KNEW my personality or my
history of abuse which made me non assertive (unless under the
influence) you would not be so quick to judge my responses as
repetitive...MY daily life with two demented parents was
repetitive...DUH

I can only tell you what I have told people in my REAL life...if you are
sick of hearing it think how sick I am of LIVING it...and sorry Dennis
but  I dont see how you can come to a group like this and NOT understand
that...killfiling someone just because they are not taking YOUR advice
is your perogative..thank GOD not everyone in this group felt that
way...
 
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