Carlos, you should absolutely contact the doctor who prescribed it if
you think the dosage needs to be increased.   He might want to try
another drug in addition, or increase that one.   It definitely isn't
a do it yourself kind of thing.

We had to change my mother in laws meds quite a few times during her
illness.  I always checked with the doctor first.   I felt safe in
giving her less of something he'd prescribed, but not more of it,
without checking in with him.

Best Regards,

Evelyn

If you say, I am wrong I will accept it.
I thought Seroquel was an anti-depressant.   Anti-depressants are my
speciality, they are murder in the nursing homes.    I visit a dear one
every week, and my heart is full of sorrow every minute of the day.   Anyone
visible or capable of interacting is at rist of harm in the form of crohns
by a mind/body connection from the atmosphere of anti-depressants (the
golden cow of the pharms) .   Those given anti-depressants do benefit
somewhat, but those not on anti-depressants are at risk for damage to their
mind and body and suffer a death unrelated to their illness in a premature
way.   Sounds strange and is strange, that this could be so.   But I have
observed it for years and am certain of it.   Tranquillizers in small
amounts calm a person rather than the stupid high of stimulants that are a
license to kill.
<more explanation is given on website
DoctorBrains.org in comments by Kureforcrohns on crohns and ulcerative
colitis.   I am extremeley aware of the residents suffering and can think of
nothing by the poor lives they live in terms of feelings.    The physical
care is good but what is that compared to failing health from
anti-depressants.   Food and shelter and congenialiaty is fine , but again,
I have seen the despair in many residents also.   They do not realize they
are in mortal danger.  Bribery seems to the factor, the pharms pay for the
nursisng homes to RX anti-depressants.
Sorry, but I am extremely sensitive to this issue.     ANTI-DEPRESSANTS NEED
TO BE BANNED IN NURSING HOMES.    Then I will say they are a safe haven.
They are only a product of the last fifty years.    Sadly, this is the worst
of the worst the pharms have come up with.    Everybody is at risk.   They
are the equal of marijuana and cocaine, etc.for a high, and the side effects
are the same.\
They will kill an innocent person.
Kureforcrohns

Carlos,
mi nombre es Luis Mar?a S?nchez, soy profesor universitario,
neurobi?logo y Director del Proyecto Alzheimer Argentina. En este
mismo foro podr?s encontrar un texto de divulgaci?n de la teor?a
alternativa sobre el alzheimer que sustentamos, pero si no la
encuentras me la pides y te la env?o inmediatamente.

Como el comportamiento de tu madre me hace dudar y mucho de que sea un
alzheimer, aunque te parezca extra?o o paradojal, si tu aceptaras me
gustar?a que me cuentes c?mo es su somportamiento respecto de los
sentidos, que son nueve. Quiero saber si reconoce a los que deber?a
reconocer, si percibe los olores suaves y que eran satisfactorios para
ella, si gusta de aquellas cosas que gustaba comer, si ha perdido la
noci?n del espacio o la disposici?n de las cosas y por la tanto se
pierde, si reconoce como conocidas (aunque no pueda enunciar su
nombre) aquellas cosas que  lo fueron para ella (la torre Eiffel, la
Quinta Avenida, el puente de Broklyn, etc), si siente una caricia, o
el calor suave o el fr?o d?bil, si se tropieza o se cae con
frecuencia, si retira el pie cuando ve que alguien va a tropezar con
?l o la mano cuando alguien ir?a a apoyar algo donde ella la tiene, si
reconoce las canciones que ella gustaba desde siempre.

Quiero saber si tiene olvidos menores, si olvida donde dej? tal o cual
cosa, si hay que repetirle muchas veces lo mismo o hace la misma
pregunta varias veces, y si se queda ensimismada, como mirando hacia
el horizonte y uno pasa por delante y no reacciona.

En general nosotros frente a la conducta de tu madre suponemos que, si
bien por otros comportamientos, podr?a estar entrando en un alzheimer,
eso es indicador de que se encuentra en franca lucha contra la
realidad, y que lo por tanto es una manera de reconocerla, cosa que en
un alzheimer instalado francamente eso no ocurre ni remotamente. Un
alzheimer termina en una par?lisis psicol?gica frente a la realidad y
ha fijado su atenci?n en el deseo de morir. Y punto. Ya no quiere
saber m?s nada, ya se ha rendido, su reactividad es muy baja, y s?lo
responde frente a un aluvi?n de est?mulos que activan aquello que ya
tiene cargado en su cerebro.

espero tu respuesta, Luis Mar?a

PD: el Seroquel (Quetiapina) es un medicamento extremo para psicosis
que la ?nica raz?n de su uso es para casos de crisis extrema en que el
da?o que podr?a hacerse a s? misma o a otras es muy superior al da?o
que le habr? de producir ese "medicamento". S?lo se da por 4 d?as y
puede llegarse a 400 mg en el cuarto d?a. No hay estudios de
prolongaci?n de la dosis porque no est?n permitidos por la autoridad
sanitaria. No obstante, parece que no hay dos organismos que respondan
de la misma manera frente a la quetiapina. Por aqu? se usa mucho en
los hospicios p?blicos para transformar a las personas en plantas.

Carlos,
agression it isn?t a sign of alz.
I?m adjoint now the protocols to diagnose alz from normal aging.
Take care: around 50% of the diagosed as alz...aren?t alz but simple
normal or special normal aging

Prof Luis Maria Sanchez
Alzheimer Project Argentine, stopalz@gmail.com

ALZHEIMER PROJECT ARGENTINA - BELGRANO 707 (3260) - Concepcion del
Uruguay   43 1442 (0054 3442) stopalz@gmail.com     www.stopalz.org
V 8.07

First step: GENERAL PREVIOUS INFORMATION REQUIRED TO RELATIVES

(Marks with an O in the correct option, or blak-letter if it uses a
text processor. All the information is anonymous, not shared and not
transferable)

1. Name or nickname with which they habitually named

2. Origin of the own last name: Spanish, Italian, French, German,
English, American, Polish, Catalan, Russian,
etc.)...............................

3. Age:... .., Genre:         , Married:  YES NO, WIDOW/WIDOWER :
YES  NO,
SINGLE:   YES   NO, IN PAIR :  YES   NO.

4. Color of the eyes................, of the skin................, of
the hair when young................. If it were dyed, which was the
favorite color...................
If it pleased to fix his aspect: (MUCH / / SOMETIMES/ LITTLE /
NOTHING),
Was centered in:  HAIR / BEATIFYNG / CLOTHES / EVERYTHING
CONTINUOUS PLEASING TO FIX ITSELF:   YES / Sometimes / NOT
If it uses eyeglasses TO SEE OF DISTANT SPOT/TO READ/BOTH
VISUAL SHARPNESS:   GOOD/ SO SO / BAD
(Note: the answers from 1 to 4 are necessary in the recovery stage, if
outside a case)

5, If widow or widower, death date of its pair.........

CAUSE: Natural / Disease / Accident / Another

6, If retired, approximated date in which let work in dependency
relation....................... Or date in which it let work by own
account...............

RETIRED:  NORMAL /  ANTICIPATED /  DISCAPACITY  / DISEASE / OTHER

7. a. If they noticed unexpected behaviors, such as forgetfulness of
recent acts (YES    NOT),
b. Which there is to repeat the things to him (YES   NO ),
c. That formulate time and time again same question (YES   NOT),
d. That it is lost in the street (YES    NOT),  or in house   (YES
NOT)
e. That remains quite and looking as far away (YES    NOT),
f. That takes shelter when it is warm (YES   NOT),
g. That speaks already with nonexistent people (YES   NOT).
h. That it sees things that are not such (YES   NOT)
i. That it thinks that things happen that do not happen (YES   NOT)

8, If those behaviors appear back from time (YES    NOT    SOME ).

9. If it can need since when, at least some of these
behaviors.........................................................

________________________________________
10. (Mark with a cross) The physician diagnosed it like:
arteriosclerosis    , senile dementia    , Alzheimer    , early
Alzheimer      , delayed Alzheimer       , probable Alzheimer     ,
probable genetic Alzheimer      .
Or nothing of that, but let it glimpse, or it gave it to understand or
simply indicated medicine as for it              .

11, People with whom she was living before the diagnosis or of which
the problems began: (it specifies) .................................

12. When moved away the preferred daughter or son of the home? (Or the
grandsons, or........................ )

13. Very significant painful losses that it had in his life, although
have been remote: (relatives, or word, of financial state, or
physical, or mental or social position, or.................................

14, Valuate coping capacity of significant painful losses: GOOD     SO
SO       BAD
And of smaller events ?: ................................

15, Diseases that have
suffered: ....................................................................................................

Chronic diseases that suffer at the
moment: .........................................................................

Last chirurgical
interventions?:.................................................................................

Local or general anesthesia in the last intervention? .When
happened?....................................

16.medicines that take and its doses.

17. Physical incapacities at present, if it is that there was. When
and why settled down?.

18, The clearer and intense loves have been or are: ...................................

19. Their activities that required body movements and mental activity
were: .............................................................................................................
If last time it physical and mental activity had a marked diminution
of its traditional level ....................................................................................................................of
physical and mental activity. Respect to which was in most of its
life.

20 What itself it appreciated more of
itself ?..............................................................................
(Can be several aptitudes)

21.. To which episode or series of them the relatives relate, they
associate or they tie with which it happens
now ?...............................................................................................................................

22. At some moment, directly or indirectly, it got to expressed that
it wanted to die? .............

23. If now been aggressive:   YES    SOMETIMES  NO  , ironic:  YES
SOMETIMES   NO , sarcastic: YES    SOMETIMES   NO, with fantasies:
YES   SOMETIMES    NO,
saying  falsehoods:   YES  SOMETIMES   NO,  capricious   YES
SOMETIMES    NO,
acting as in a theatre:    YES   SOMETIMES    NO,  or acting:  YES
SOMETIMES    NO.

THE ALTERNATIVE ALZHEIMER?S THEORY
DIFFUSION TEXT
ALZHEIMER PROJECT ARGENTINE,
AUGUST 2007

The Chronic Progressive Dementization, (CPD), the scientific name of
that vulgarly called alzheimer, is a quite different question than
depression, different types of psychosis and obviously of sometimes
surprising behaviors of the normal aging, and in the long run much
more serious.
Although the final phase of cerebral disintegration is similar, there
are two types of processes: the one that occurs in young adults or
greater adults, and another different one that it happens in very
greater adults, around 80 years or more. In these, at the final phase
the problem it is "simply" the loss of the vital motivation, the
exhaustion of desire to continue living. Abandonment of dreams, as
Miguel de Unamuno would say on the cession of such dreams that Don
Quixote in favor of Sancho did, and then, obviously, dying.
Persons with risk for a CPD (alzheimer) are those that generally have
an introverted personality, few and restricted social relations, with
and isolation tendency, coping deficit for difficulties and losses,
tendency to depend on others, to had constructed their personal
identity in the shade of another one (the woman of the doctor, the
husband of...) or some other equivalent transference, tendency to be
obstinate to proper painful events or of the other's life, which is
diagnosed in general like depression.
THEN, IN ANY WAY IT TOUCHES TO ANYONE.
There is nothing of chance's dependence, neither suddenly nor no
magician in it. Logically with advance into years the probability that
these people suffer a painful loss increases, obviously, like
everybody. With its coping deficit the risk increases enormously when
they have a painful loss, for example her husband who gave or lent the
personal identity, or a son or daughter who gave sense to their life,
of their work that justified the existence to him, of their corporal
and mental capacity to which he had bet or concentrated, and when not
counting on a familiar network and a social network that stopped its
fall after the duel impossible to elaborate and to go on, the person
collapses.
It is the beginning of the aim. It can have 40 years old (the younger
case than we have was a woman of 38 years), or 80 yo. It does not
related to aging, but only that when they advance the years is more
probable that we suffer painful losses. Until this moment its brain is
totally normal, does not show absolutely anything abnormal and is
totally useless to want to see something in images or less even in
electroencephalograms, that it is something so coarse and inadequate
as a toad arrives of a luxurious piano of tail.
The landslide of the person, its "delivery" as much in the dictionary
of the Real Spanish Academy like in the original dictionaries of all
the languages, is expressed in the idea to wish to die, in the
fixation of the attention in its own one and wished death. Then the
abnormal thing begins, the unnatural thing, the destructive thing,
because in fact we are programmed biologically, ancestrally, for all
the opposite, as it is to explore, to fight, to defend to us, to hunt
(in the literal sense and the symbolic sense), to attack, to ask to
us, to inquire to us, and our attention concentrated in each objective
part of a basic alert status that we never lose, except for when we
slept very well. We are not programmed to give to us tamely, as it is
not it in any animal.

How takes place then the cerebral damage that leads to the death?
To understand this we need to explain some very basic things, although
surprising little known. In the first place that we have nine senses:
vision, hearing, equilibrium, tact, space perception/orientation,
taste, sense of smell, sense of strange it (or familiarity sense) and
of the corporal perception. All these senses, and perhaps others more,
are active in the basic alert status and they have two components: an
automatic one of immediate reaction (one falls in love a light and
blinking, it smells sulphydric vapors, the substance that is put to
the gas tubes to detect a loss immediately, and I separate, etc.), and
another component of recognition, in which the stimuli are sent to the
brain and there it is collated if that information has been loaded.
They are the sensorial recognition systems we have.
Then, EVERYTHING WHAT WE DO, EVERYTHING WHAT WE THOUGHT, BY MORE BANAL
OR INSIGNIFICANT THAN IS, IS RECORDED IN THE BRAIN IN FORM OF NEURONAL
NETWORK IN WHICH  PARTICIPATE  NEURONS OF THIS SENSORIAL RECOGNITION
?S  SYSTEMS OF THE NINE CHANNELS, INEXORABLY.
And those networks that are armed in our brain also were reinforced
when we return to make the same act or the same thought.
But in addition BECAUSE IN FACT ALL IS CONCECTED WITH ALL, WHICH WE
ARE GOING TO DO WAS CONNECTED IN MORE OR LESS STRAIGHT FORWARD FORM
WITH WHICH ALREADY WE HAVE DONE AND LOADED LIKE NEURONAL NETWORKS IN
OUR BRAIN.
Some of those connections have a great importance in the every day
actions and others very remotely: although the door seems to be very
heavy, already we know that the force that we must make to open it
isn't so high. Or for example the natural attraction by rhythm that
are multiple or sub multiple of the heart rate (that we listened for
the first time in our mother's uterus), seems like related with this
indeed. That is to say, to live means to be stimulating everything
somehow what we have done, lived and thought. It seems exhausting, but
it is a fascinating question.
However, when a person fix attention to death, that is something
abstract that does not required any motor or cognitive reply, AND
RESORTING TO THE NATURAL AND AVAILABLE MECHANISM DISPOSED IN ALL
PERSONS THEY TO BLOCK THE RECEPTION OF OTHER STIMULI WHEN WE
CONCENTRATED THE ATTENTION IN SOMETHING INTENSIVELY ATTRRACTED, THESE
PEOPLE HAPPEN TO BLOCK, at the outset in oscillating form, with
variations throughout a day or of days, THE SENSORIAL STIMULI OF THE
DIFFERENT CHANNELS. It is a biological basic mechanism since we must
be concentrated in the tiger that attacks to us and we cannot disperse
with the colored birds that are jumping back: it's a survival
principle. Who know more the utility of this principle are the
pickpockets of the human agglomerates: one of them produces a smaller
but clear aggression on the victim. In reaction the victim is put in
guard and concentrates its attention on the aggressor, while his
companion removes the wallet or cuts the portfolio's strap, because we
have blocked the tact and the corporal perception when putting to us
in guard in front of the aggressor and concentrating the attention in
him.
The displacement of the attention towards different objectives is a
normal and a routinely task, but in the people who enter CPD process
they are persistently blocking the reception of stimuli by the
different sensorial channels and the consequent arrived to the brain,
so that the neurons of the sensorial recognition systems that comprise
of the sensorial networks doesn't receive stimuli, with which in the
long run lose the synaptic connections and the networks are disarmed.
Something equivalent to the atrophy of a muscle we never use. This
avoid progressively all the recognition tasks. No longer they
recognize, no longer have capacity of recovery of recent events (weak
neuronal networks, with low sensorial stimulation), and however still
can recover events of the past. But not anyone, but THOSE IN WHICH THE
LIVED EVENTS (SENSORIAL NETWORKS ARMED IN THE PAST) WERE POSSIBLE WITH
A GREAT STIMULATION (EMOTIONAL), PROLONGED REINFORCED AND CONNECTED
WITH MULTIPLE OTHER SENSORIAL NETWORKS, LIKE THE DOOR OF OUR HOME AT
OUR CHILDHOOD, by where we did not shelter, by where we shook to
arrive all smeared, by where we arrived to eat, etc.
Thus, those faults of the sensorial recognition systems  were the more
consistent biological indicators to detect that a person is in a
dementia of this type.Chemicals or physical parameters aren?t the
unique biological indicators
THE PROGRESSIVE DISINTEGRATION OF THE NEURONAL NETWORKS IN OUR BRAIN
BY STIMULATION DEFICIT OF THE RECOGNITION SENSORIAL SYSTEMS IS THE
ESSENCE OF THE DEMENTIZATION PROCESS, AND LEADS TO THE DEATH BECAUSE
AN AUTOMATIC ESSENTIAL SYSTEM HAS CONNECTIONS WITH SENSORIAL NETWORKS,
THAT WHEN ALSO THEY GET TO BE AFFECTED, CAUSES THE DEATH.
Then isn't properly a disease ("signs and symptoms that responds to a
well-known cause"), isn't genetic, it doesn't have relation with aging
(frequent confusion comes from that to greater age is the probability
of suffering painful losses, that are a very frequent trigger one,
since we have already said), does not begin with any damage in the
brain but that concludes in the long run in this, isn't a problem of
the memory but of the attention, and before this one of the desire,
and before this one of the satisfaction search, and before this one of
the biological and psychological impulsions arranged by the will, and
even before the basal state of alert that characterizes to us. One of
the last forms of the expression of the process is the problem with
the memory, but in fact the difficulty to recover events is the last
link of a very long chain, and to have concentrated in it and not in
the attention's deficit of can be the reason of the delayed to
understand the process, and the habitual confusion with several
behaviors proper of aging.
And finally, isn't irreversible, since it is possible and it gives
clear and forceful result, to elevate to those people the self-esteem
and the attention to him, and to permute the abstract idea of wished
death by the one of a real life that surrounds it, the shade by the
light that surrounds us to all to little that we lend a little
attention, taken care of and love, and inserting it in a new extolling
routine for the dairy life. It is not easy, is an abyss of difference
with giving a tablet, but it is tremendously positive as much for the
affected ones as for which we worked with the protocols derived from
the psycho-social neuro sensorial disintegrative theory of the chronic
progressive dementization.

Prof.Lic.Luis Mar?a S?nchez de Machado,
Neurobiologist, Director,
Alzheimer?s  Project Argentina
TE 0054 3442 431442   stopalz@gmail.com    www.stopalz.org

Few references:

Sanchez de Machado LM et al., Rev Neurol 2007; 44(4): 198-202.
Sanchez de Machado LM, I J World Health and  Societal Politics 2005,
Vol. 2 (1)
Sanchez de Machado LM, Rev Esp Geriatr Gerontol 2004; 39(6):371-80.
Sanchez de Machado LM, Geriatrianet 2004, Vol. 6(1)

Finally I obtained good guidelines from the neurologist specialist in
dementia.

Seroquel can be increased each week by .5 tablet (12.5 mg) up to a
maximum of 75 mg./day. Watch for side effects as it is increased:
muscle stiffness (loss of flexibility in the joints), loss of balance.
Stop and reduce if there are side effects.

Carlos