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Anybody heard from Jules?

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Chuck Whealton - 25 Mar 2007 15:03 GMT
Hey everybody...

Anybody know how Jules and his Grandfather are doing?

Charles R. Whealton
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Evelyn Ruut - 25 Mar 2007 18:19 GMT
> Hey everybody...
>
> Anybody know how Jules and his Grandfather are doing?
>
> Charles R. Whealton
> Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com

I don't know why, but I haven't heard from him in a bit.  He'll call or
write soon, I hope.  Hey JULES!   check in and say 'hi' once in a while
okay?   Haven't seen him on Skype either.

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Evelyn

Chuck Whealton - 25 Mar 2007 19:34 GMT
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> Evelyn

Wow, well hopefully things are going well for he and his Grandfather
(and Arthur).  Maybe we'll hear from him soon.

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Evelyn Ruut - 25 Mar 2007 19:50 GMT
>> > Hey everybody...
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> Charles R. Whealton
> Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com

He checks in here now and again, and I am hopeful.

Usually we speak on Skype, but my new computer needed a sound driver to run
Vista.   It was a couple of weeks till my stepson got over here to do it, so
I haven't logged onto Skype in a while.

He did say something about taking a trip to Germany again.
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Evelyn

Jules - 25 Mar 2007 22:43 GMT
> > Hey everybody...
> >
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> write soon, I hope.  Hey JULES!   check in and say 'hi' once in a while
> okay?   Haven't seen him on Skype either.

Hi Evelyn.

I cant use skype, as it wont let me login, it cancelled my acc cos i didnt
use it often, and my house fone is out of action as the workman cut throug
the wires and wont pay the tv company and i cant afford it, so trying to
fight it, no doubt they will pay up to fix it the day i leave in the summer.
Had internet probs on and off too....

Been spending ages moving the house, was due to have the last of the work
done 2 months ago, but kept being put off (new kitchen, bathroom) but they
wanted to rewire the upstairs rooms, so had to move EVERYTHING, so for other
a month, had no bed, only a tiny space on the lving room floor between
everything that was moved...Little A jumps on the sofa first..so i usually
look up at him from the floor, and see his wide smiling face grinning at
me...but i cant chuck him off....

And Evelyn...guess who im off to spend a week with in Cottbus????????????
Evelyn Ruut - 26 Mar 2007 00:11 GMT
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> And Evelyn...guess who im off to spend a week with in Cottbus????????????

Hi Jules, of course I know who!  I am so glad to hear that you are OK Jules.
Been thinking of you and wondering what had become of you lately.   We had
our 15th anniversary party today, and it was so nice.   Lots of good friends
and a good time.

Jules, both your parents are crazy not to treasure you like they should.
You are a good person and you need to believe that there are people in this
world who recognize that.

Don't bother to punch your dad.  Nothing would help, and simply being an
idiot like he is, is punishment in itself.   Move on and be the better
person, because you already are the better man.

About your mom, don't say anything to the home.   People can change and
maybe she has.   If she is not a nice person, that will become more than
evident without your help.   Don't become the instrument of her losing her
job.   Besides, for whatever it is worth, and whomever she is, I am sure she
realizes that you are her child somewhere deep down.    People can and do
change.   That is what we are here for.

Always take the high road, Jules.   You will have nothing to regret later.
You will never regret having been the better person who overlooked a wrong,
whereas you might live to regret giving people their comeuppance when it was
probably in the cards to happen all on its own without your help.

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Evelyn

Evelyn Ruut - 26 Mar 2007 00:38 GMT
Ooopsie... I meant 25th anniversary party.   Not 15th!

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Evelyn

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> when it was probably in the cards to happen all on its own without your
> help.
Chuck Whealton - 26 Mar 2007 01:56 GMT
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> Evelyn

This is incredible, Evelyn.  You periodically pluck the thoughts right
out of my mind.

Jules, I have to tell you I fully agree with Evelyn.  As good as it
would momentarily feel to punch your Father out - don't do it.  Just
don't do it.  The moment you do, you'll have stooped to his level,
then you'll realize you stooped to his level, and then you'll feel
worse than you do by NOT nailing him.

As for your Mother, again, I have to agree with Evelyn.  She said
EXACTLY what I was thinking when I read your postings.  Your Mother
may very well be a different person than she was when she gave you
up.  Of course, she may not be.  All I know is that I have to agree
with Evelyn in that people ABSOLUTELY DO change.

I didn't realize that you had planned to actually MOVE to Germany
until these last messages.

I hope you'll keep in touch.  I must admit, I always pictured you
there in England.  Close to a McVitties factory, but in England
nonetheless :-)

So you'll be bringing "sleeping bags for the car", eh?  I have to say
that hitting the road with nothing but a packed car and Arthur
actually sounds really fun.  I hope it's as fun for you as it sounds
to me!

Keep in touch...

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Jules - 26 Mar 2007 15:07 GMT
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> then you'll realize you stooped to his level, and then you'll feel
> worse than you do by NOT nailing him.

umm i keep thinking that, i even declared a truce after my nan died but that
went out of the window straight away....

> As for your Mother, again, I have to agree with Evelyn.  She said
> EXACTLY what I was thinking when I read your postings.  Your Mother
> may very well be a different person than she was when she gave you
> up.  Of course, she may not be.  All I know is that I have to agree
> with Evelyn in that people ABSOLUTELY DO change.

nope she hasnt changed, 10 years ago she drove a car straight at me, when my
lil sister ran away from her and she was legally allowed to live with me...i
didnt see her for many years until she moved into the house next to a
uncle...and after 2 visits that went down hill....no great loss, i had my
nan and granddad as a kid

> I didn't realize that you had planned to actually MOVE to Germany
> until these last messages.

yeah, been planning it for a year, thinks keep going wrong but cant get much
worse...im looking forward to it, the doggy is all vacinated and given a pet
passport, so its all done...just gonna miss my old man

> I hope you'll keep in touch.  I must admit, I always pictured you
> there in England.  Close to a McVitties factory, but in England
> nonetheless :-)

this county suck big time, no one can blame me for getting out.

> So you'll be bringing "sleeping bags for the car", eh?  I have to say
> that hitting the road with nothing but a packed car and Arthur
> actually sounds really fun.  I hope it's as fun for you as it sounds
> to me!

done it loads times....good fun, i know a loada yanks on a model making
group, who have seen pics of my trips to see old aircraft bases etc, so they
told me to write some books with fotos..so im gonna do that in the first
year when i get there

Only thing holding me back is granddad, but if i dont go this year, i will
never go...but i think my old man wouldnt want me just here to visit him
once a week, he would want me to have a good life, esp at my age and
knocking on a bit myself

> Keep in touch...

you dont get rid of me that easy ;-)

> Charles R. Whealton
> Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Evelyn Ruut - 26 Mar 2007 15:23 GMT
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> you dont get rid of me that easy ;-)

Glad to hear that Julian.  And I don't blame you a bit for pursuing your
happiness wherever it leads you.   I think if your grandad was in his full
and right mind just now, he'd say the same.

You know it is our expectations of people that are the biggest cause we
don't get along with people.   Maybe if you had no expectations that your
mom would act like one, you and her might be able to get along a little
better.   I don't think that would work for your dad, he is just too nasty
for words.

Also the old adage about absence making the heart grow fonder is truest when
it has to do with family battles.    Make your own way in the world without
them, and go where there are good people who respect and value you.

Most of all, you should value yourself.   That's more important than
anything.

By the way, I know you like planes.   A friend of mine just died and he was
the head designer of the F-14 as well as the lunar lander.   A brilliant
aeronautical engineer.

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Evelyn

Jules - 26 Mar 2007 15:14 GMT
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> Hi Jules, of course I know who!

Yes, she promises me a kiss ;-)

I am so glad to hear that you are OK Jules.
> Been thinking of you and wondering what had become of you lately.   We had
> our 15th anniversary party today, and it was so nice.   Lots of good friends
> and a good time.

cool...didnt get too drunk did you? and hows the pup going?

> Jules, both your parents are crazy not to treasure you like they should.
> You are a good person and you need to believe that there are people in this
> world who recognize that.

yeah, i have so many people saying im nice, too soft etc etc..like i always
run to my famly when they are in trouble, but i never even get a fone
call...

> Don't bother to punch your dad.  Nothing would help, and simply being an
> idiot like he is, is punishment in itself.   Move on and be the better
> person, because you already are the better man.

everyone says just ignore him, but its hard when he winds me up...he does it
on purpose, last time i hit him was when i was 15...granddad had to sit on
me to stop me, and nan was crying, him and his wife have always done
that...he told me he didnt want to see my kids, his grandkids which hurt
like hell, i wanted him to see them, no matter how much i hated him, but he
hasnt once..

> About your mom, don't say anything to the home.   People can change and
> maybe she has.   If she is not a nice person, that will become more than
> evident without your help.   Don't become the instrument of her losing her
> job.   Besides, for whatever it is worth, and whomever she is, I am sure she
> realizes that you are her child somewhere deep down.    People can and do
> change.   That is what we are here for.

i went to her some weeks ago when i found out she could be homeless cos she
couldnt afford the house but i got that offer thrown back in my face within
minutes so i just gave up

> Always take the high road, Jules.   You will have nothing to regret later.
> You will never regret having been the better person who overlooked a wrong,
> whereas you might live to regret giving people their comeuppance when it was
> probably in the cards to happen all on its own without your help.

i dont really belive in all that karma stuff....my step daughter ran up a
300$ fone bill (third time) and her mom went mad as i did, then that night
she dropped her mobile (and teenageers cant live without a mobile!!) haha
that was good..

im just looking for a new start this year....i have nothing here (apart from
granddad) and im taking little A....he will love Germany too
Evelyn Ruut - 26 Mar 2007 15:35 GMT
>> Hi Jules, of course I know who!
>
> Yes, she promises me a kiss ;-)

Great!

> I am so glad to hear that you are OK Jules.
>> Been thinking of you and wondering what had become of you lately.   We
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>
> cool...didnt get too drunk did you? and hows the pup going?

The pup is just a little over a year old now, and driving us crazy.  No, I
just had a nice draught beer with my dinner.  It was nice.

>> Jules, both your parents are crazy not to treasure you like they should.
>> You are a good person and you need to believe that there are people in
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> run to my famly when they are in trouble, but i never even get a fone
> call...

Being a good person is its own best reward, just like being a jerk (like
your dad) is its own worst punishment.

>> Don't bother to punch your dad.  Nothing would help, and simply being an
>> idiot like he is, is punishment in itself.   Move on and be the better
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> he
> hasnt once..

He is obviously a tortured and hateful person, Jules.   Better to just pity
him for all the good he misses out on.   I am familiar with the type,
believe me!

>> About your mom, don't say anything to the home.   People can change and
>> maybe she has.   If she is not a nice person, that will become more than
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>> realizes that you are her child somewhere deep down.    People can and do
>> change.   That is what we are here for.

> i went to her some weeks ago when i found out she could be homeless cos
> she
> couldnt afford the house but i got that offer thrown back in my face
> within
> minutes so i just gave up

She's probably just someone who is angry and confused.  I can imagine she
associates a lot of guilt with you, Jules, and it unnerves her.  Remember
too, that people learn what they were taught, and they act with others the
way they learned from their parents.   Some simply have no excuse.

Better just to go your way and be a good person because you DID have the
advantage of being with your grandparents as a child, and you DO know the
right thing.  In that, you were probably more fortunate than either of your
parents, because even if your father didn't learn that lesson, you did.

>> Always take the high road, Jules.   You will have nothing to regret
>> later.
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> was
>> probably in the cards to happen all on its own without your help.

> i dont really belive in all that karma stuff....my step daughter ran up a
> 300$ fone bill (third time) and her mom went mad as i did, then that night
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> from
> granddad) and im taking little A....he will love Germany too.

Bet he will.   I always say it is a good thing to reinvent your life from
time to time.  I know I have and it was always for the better.

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Evelyn

Jules - 25 Mar 2007 22:38 GMT
Hey chuck...i only got my internet back in my house a few days ago, and on
this pc yesterday...had no money to pay the bill for a couple of weeks and
this wifi on the laptop has a fault, so it needed a whole day without
electricity to get it to work again, this is also the only pc with the
groups on.

I saw granddad today, hes fine....im off to Germany in 3 days for a 3 week
drive, so i popped in and left him a big note so he knows im not here, his
first words were i was off to see a girl LOL

Things havent been good hear recently, but good things are, Little Arthur
has now got his pet passport, so he is ok to travel in the summer...

Um had to sell a load of things to keep me going, but could be worse. Just
hoping things work out ok in the summer.

I saw my real dad 2 weeks ago, i was just walking in to the home to see
granddad...as he was walking out, he asked me when i was off to live in
Germany and i said the summer, so he said 'good, f.ck off and dont come
back'  had lots of staff not been there i would have whacked him one...im
still thinking of doing it before i leave  though.

Granddad is eating well, actually that time was funny, as i was arguing with
my father, holding back, Arthur searched the nuring home for granndad
(chcked dining room and tv room) and then he walked up to his room and went
in....he knows the way quicker than me

Last weekend i was there a couple of hours, granddad was in his chair, i
laid on the bed next to that, with my head on my granddad and fell asleep
for a hour holding his hand....nice to do that with him.  Not done that
since he has been in the home.

My real mother has got a job there, as the manager, i saw someone a few
weeks ago who told me she went for the job, she told me not to tell anyone
that she was my real mother (cos i guess she would know, that the staff know
i dont like my parents, as i said my parents didnt want me since a kid and
raised by my grandparents) but it seems she opened her mouth...as they were
pushing me to tell them what shes like.....i just said i didnt get on with
her

She was working last week when i went, but just ignored me, no great loss.

Today with granddad we just watched some tv while little A was playing with
granddad, so it was a nice time.

I got my car all ready for the trip, passed its road inspection.

Granddad is eating well...always up late, he seems fine, not worried, i did
say i would miss him while im on my trip(will send him some postcards like i
did last time) and he said dont worry, he was happy there and will still be
there when i get back....

Im trying to get a digicam so when im in Germany from the summer, i can take
little movies of me and A where we are living, get him a dvd player for his
room and send him little movies. As it will be about 3-4 times a year i can
only get back to see him...actually having second thoughts about moving, cos
im gonna miss him like mad...but i know, he wouldnt want me to start a new
life, just to visit him each week...i think he would want whats best for me.

I hope to take loads of pics of my trip again, i leave England late Wed
night, head to Berlin for a week, then Cottbus for a week...then not
sure...maybe take in Poland, just hope the weather is warm at night cos at
the mo its freezing at night, so taking plenty of sleeping bags so its not
too bad in the car

> Hey everybody...
>
> Anybody know how Jules and his Grandfather are doing?
>
> Charles R. Whealton
> Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
 
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