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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / March 2007

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Momadook (J Cooper) - 13 Mar 2007 10:15 GMT
Is there any source on the web to determine which doctors have trained
specifically to treat Alzheimer's in the elderly?  thank you
Evelyn Ruut - 13 Mar 2007 14:29 GMT
> Is there any source on the web to determine which doctors have trained
> specifically to treat Alzheimer's in the elderly?  thank you

Doctors that specialize in elderly patients are usually called
Gerontologists.   I don't believe there is a particular sub-specialty that
only treats alzheimer patients.

Evelyn
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 13 Mar 2007 16:13 GMT
The specialist my MIL saw was actually a psychiatrist whose specialty
was dementia in the elderly. Other people here have had their loved
ones referred to neurologists with dementia specialties.

M
Anthony Shipley - 16 Mar 2007 07:17 GMT
>>"Evelyn Ruut" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> [WA] wrote:

Evelyn, I haven't posted here much for  some months. If you don't remember it
was me  (Anthony Shipley from Australia) continued driving all that time

I've only stopped driving some 3-6 months because of my wife and  my psych. So
you can yell for all your efforts. Of course, I still know that I can still
drive if necessary.

So what's this looser doing back here with you wasting your time?

So, the real reason for this message is to bring to you the news that an
Australian has/is developing a laptop computer program that can (sez he)
recognise whether or not an A.D. patient and thereby save deaths by keeping A.D.
and such patients away from the wheel of those who should not be there.

I can't find it at the moment but I'll send details as soon as I can find the
pamphlet.

Got it!!

Get it at email: hockingl@bigpond.net.au
And           http://users.bigpond.com/ghocking/

I'm very interested about comments.

anthony shipley

Run away with me; I can make you unhappy.
Evelyn Ruut - 16 Mar 2007 12:53 GMT
>>>"Evelyn Ruut" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> [WA] wrote:

Hi Anthony, of course I remember you!   Glad to see you posting....

> Evelyn, I haven't posted here much for  some months. If you don't remember
> it
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> still
> drive if necessary.

I had nothing against you personally, or your driving.  In fact for a guy
who supposedly has alzheimers, I think you do pretty well, being able to use
the computer and such.   I would guess that you have a pretty mild case, or
maybe even some other illness.   But you do know very well how I feel about
driving with any kind of a health issue that might affect judgement.   It is
absolutely nothing against you.   I hope you know that, Anthony.

> So what's this looser doing back here with you wasting your time?
>
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> keeping A.D.
> and such patients away from the wheel of those who should not be there.

That sounds really interesting.

> I can't find it at the moment but I'll send details as soon as I can find
> the
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>
> I'm very interested about comments.

I think it is a great idea.  I notice that the test has several components
visual etc.   The only complaint I would have with this would be (as any
caregiver for a person with AZ could tell you) that sometimes abilities tend
to wax and wane at times.   In other words one day they might pass the test
just fine, and another be very confused and cause a crash.

But overall, it is a very good idea since it might tend to address these
things directly, and in the right way, meaning that it is fair to all the
individuals concerned.   If one fails the test it is a clear sign that one
shouldn't be driving, no quibbling about it.

I wish they would institute something like this in the USA.

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Best Regards,

Evelyn

Anthony Shipley - 20 Mar 2007 05:28 GMT
>>>>"Evelyn Ruut" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> [WA] wrote:
>
>Hi Anthony, of course I remember you!   Glad to see you posting....

>I had nothing against you personally, or your driving.  In fact for a guy
>who supposedly has alzheimers, I think you do pretty well, being able to use
>the computer and such.   I would guess that you have a pretty mild case, or

I still seem to be in a pretty early stage but the symptoms do seem to be
accumulating more and more. Good still to be able to recognise them but I'm
having some difficulty correct them (in writing).

>maybe even some other illness.   But you do know very well how I feel about
>driving with any kind of a health issue that might affect judgement.   It is
>absolutely nothing against you.   I hope you know that, Anthony.

I don't have much details but

>> So what's this looser doing back here with you wasting your time?
>>
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>
>I wish they would institute something like this in the USA.

No doubt it will be somewhat expensiven but, once it's in common use, it'll
probably drop in price and the traffic authorities will recognise what a good
revenue tool it is.

Sadly,

anthony shipley

Run away with me; I can make you unhappy.
Evelyn Ruut - 20 Mar 2007 12:50 GMT
>>>>>"Evelyn Ruut" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> [WA] wrote:
>>
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> good
> revenue tool it is.

Here in the USA they have that down to a fine science already.   But
seriously though, I think the best benefit will be in keeping the number of
accidents down.  Anything that improves the odds would be good.

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Best Regards,

Evelyn

Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 17 Mar 2007 02:58 GMT
Anthony, I think an on-line test may be a great screen to trigger a
real world assessment (written and road test). The next question
is....how often? Things can change fast with dementia. I'm thinking
you'd have to do it quarterly - at a supervised location to avoid
cheating - and get locked out of driving immediately on failing until
the actual assessment was done and passed.

By the time people are actually diagnosed with AD, they are usually
quite impaired, and on more fronts than may be recognized by their
family and their primary care physician. I know you are distressed to
the point of belligerence about this subject, but things can change
fast on the cognitive front, and driving is not a right.

You are living inside a machine with a failing control system, so what
you can perceive can't be trusted. It speaks volumes that your wife
and doctor both insisted you stop - and I doubt they would have done
so if your perceptions and reactions and judgement were entirely
normal.

I am sincerely sorry that this is happening to you, but I disagree
entirely that you should be behind the wheel of a car. No one is
yelling at you. The whole thing is beyond sad, and I sympathise with
the frustration over your losses.

Mary
 
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