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June - 09 Mar 2007 15:07 GMT
Well I thought I had all bases covered with a Durable Power of Attorney.
Seems not quite.   Mom had invested in some mutual funds sometime back in
the eighties.  She put my brother's name on them along with hers.   She
purchased this stock thru AARP and it's  doing pretty good but at some point
I will need to cash it in to help pay expenses.   I got to thinking that if
I have to cash it in all at once, she will have to pay taxes on it.   She is
low income so if I cash in a little at a time for the next few years then
maybe not Federal taxes.  My brother is fine with this and told me it
sounded like a good idea.   He also said "You're in charge of the finances."
Well it seems that I need a Durable Power of Attorney for this stock along
with a Guarantee signature from her bank where I'm having the money
transferred to her account.   One day last week all the stars aligned:  I
did not have to care for my grandson, my brother was at my mother's assisted
living for lunch and I had the paperwork ready.   We headed for a branch of
her bank that was only a few blocks away.   My brother signed his part of
the paperwork then it was Mom's turn,  I had told her as simply as I could
before we left that what she would be doing but as we all know anything can
happen.   I held my breath as the lady at the bank asked Mom if she had read
the paperwork and knew what she was signing.   Mom hesitated then said yes
and signed the papers.  I could have done this with my POA but I would have
go through all the hassle of sending a copy each time and getting my
brother's notarized signature as well.  This way I have POA for both of them
for this stock.  It's not that much money but it will help Mom with
expenses.   I can cash in the stock over the internet.
All the trouble I've had with tracking down all of Mom's investments, her
CDs at different banks(then they merge with other banks and then they merge
again), and my husband went through the same thing with his mother.  Some
stuff didn't show up until after she died and he even found insurance money
for himself and his sisters on our state's Unclaimed Money site.   I can't
image what people did before the internet.  Anyway I told my daughter that I
would have all my money at 2 banks and 1 investment firm.  Hope I stick to
it......June
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 09 Mar 2007 16:54 GMT
June, what save us with my mother in law is that we had hired a
financial planner to help us get a handle on her "stuff".

My husband and I had hired an independent planner 16 years ago to help
us get our finances in shape after the death of my father. I'd
inherited some money, we were new parents, in our first house etc. so
we needed someone to look at the big picture for us and get us
organized, including our own retirement, tax, estate planning etc. She
was great, since she was independent, and thus not trying to push any
particular approach on us or sell us anything.

This is her
http://www.hitbyaniceberg.ca/About%20The%20Authors.htm
(she fell on her front steps a few years back and broke her neck, but
luckily recovered most of the way, and wrote a book on planning for
unexpected disability).

She's a real gem, so when my mother in law started to fail, we were
able to convince her to let Janet help her. The first thing Janet did
was wade right in and find out where all the investments were, all the
bank accounts, the insurance, you name it, and come up with a total
net worth assessment. My mother in law was also the executor of a
trust, which was totalled balled up by the time Janet came on the
scene, due to my MIL's AD. Although my MIL was confused at the time,
she was still well enough to be able to help explain a few things. It
helped that Janet wasn't a family member, so Dolli would tell her
things she might have been reluctant to discuss with her son. People
are private about their money!

Janet looked at how everything was set up and started issuing orders
to my husband that would A) better protect my MIL's capital and
produce maximal income for her and B) make it all easier to keep track
of and manage. Like many elderly people, my mother in law had all
kinds of money sitting in unproductive places, tons of different
accounts, etc. etc. She even had whacks of cash just sitting in
savings accounts. So, Janet had my husband running around with
specific instructions -  i.e. close this account, consolidate these
ones,  move this money from this to that, ditch these risky
investments in favour of this safer investment.

It made the world of difference to us to know exactly where everything
was, what it was etc. It also was a huge relief to know the entire
financial picture so we had confidence there was enough money to look
after anything Dolli might need.

My father ran his own business, so you'd think HIS finances would have
been in order, but man, oh, man. I was the executor of his estate, and
we were months figuring out what he had, and where it was (never mind
the stack of uncashed cheques I found in his closet in a shoebox).

Mary
June - 09 Mar 2007 17:52 GMT
I wish I could have done this.   If I knew then(1993 when Mom was first
diagnosed) what I know now........  I just got POA last fall. I have two
brothers that were in denial until just a few years ago.   That damn river
is not only deep, it can be very long......June

> June, what save us with my mother in law is that we had hired a
> financial planner to help us get a handle on her "stuff".
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>
> Mary
Dennis P. Harris - 12 Mar 2007 09:00 GMT
> My father ran his own business, so you'd think HIS finances would have
> been in order, but man, oh, man. I was the executor of his estate, and
> we were months figuring out what he had, and where it was (never mind
> the stack of uncashed cheques I found in his closet in a shoebox).

my sis was the executor, but i bought the house from the estate
when it was settled almost 2 years ago.  my parents bought 100
shares of at&t back in the 50s and my mother had all these odd
lots of baby bells from the at&t breakup and resulting selloffs,
mergers, etc.  she was always getting letters from them offering
to either buy back the stock or sell her enough to make at least
100 shares, along with dozens of quarterly dividend checks, most
for under $20.

the other day, i found a $2.37 stock dividend check from one of
the baby bells in a supposedly empty box in the basement.
 
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