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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / February 2007False memories and deja-vu
My mother is awaiting diagnosis for her dementia which we think will turn out to be vascular dementia. Apart from the general confusion and forgetfulness where she links up unrelated occurrences and believes them to be one event she also completely fabricates events and believes them to be utterly true. This can lead to some amusing consequences but sometimes I find them very distressing and have to spend a great deal of my time unraveling the truth from fiction and sorting out misunderstandings between her and other people. Does anyone have any advice on how to cope with this? She also gets false deja-vu where she will tell me that all the TV programmes even the news are repeats. She even rings up broadcasting companies to complain and thinks that they have run out of money and all their staff are on strike!! Whenever I take her out in the car she tells me every pedestrian is always in the same place and the same sequence of traffic passes. This makes her slightly paranoid and I sympathize because it must appear to her as if she's on The Truman Show. There are days when her reply to most things I tell her is replied to with 'I knew you were going to say that' Are these symptoms common? What's the best way of dealing with and if anyone has been through a similar situation what was the next stage of deterioration if any? > My mother is awaiting diagnosis for her dementia which we think will > turn out to be vascular dementia. Apart from the general confusion and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > misunderstandings between her and other people. Does anyone have any > advice on how to cope with this? <snip> There is no easy answer. Divert attention to something else if possible. Dont waste your breath trying to correct her. Dont ague, move on to something else All a lot easier said than done, I admit.  SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > My mother is awaiting diagnosis for her dementia which we think will > turn out to be vascular dementia. Apart from the general confusion and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > anyone has been through a similar situation what was the next stage of > deterioration if any? Hi majian, They always say not to bother correcting them, because their perception is telling them one thing and you will be trying to tell them another. I admit that sometimes it is very hard, but it is wiser not to do it. The human brain is a strange thing, especially when it is deteriorating with an illness, and all sorts of illusions can come up. My mother in law had so many and so disturbing delusions that our doctor put her on Risperdol to control them. It sounds to me as though what your mom is going through is not quite that bad, but I am sure it is unnerving to you to deal with them. If I were you I would just try not answering at all, and immediately change the subject such as "Oh look at that cute dog over there" or just anything you can point out to draw her attention away from the delusion. Sorry I don't have any better tricks for you, and I do know how frustrating it can be, but her reality is going to be different. It is because of the deterioration of her brain, not something that can be explained away to her. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn Ruut > Are these symptoms common? What's the best way of dealing with and if > anyone has been through a similar situation what was the next stage of > deterioration if any? My mother symptoms weren't quite as severe but she always knew people that she couldn't have known and generally would say she had been places that she probably hadn't been and yes everything was a rerun on TV. Also she would lie about things. It's better to accept that your mother as a mental illness than to try to correct her. It takes a bit of detaching yourself from her illness. Not easy but you'll feel better and get along easier with her. Just nod your head, bite your tongue and say to yourself it's the illness not her. If you really need to know the truth as to her interactions with other people ask them, you will never get a straight answer from her. As my mother's illness has progressed this stopped. I have to start most conversations and she talks mainly about her childhood. If I ask a question about something back in her past she will say "Now how did that go?" If she really concentrates on something she might remember but it generally has to be from the 1920's, 30's and maybe early 40's. Hope this helps.......June > My mother is awaiting diagnosis for her dementia which we think will > turn out to be vascular dementia. Apart from the general confusion and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > anyone has been through a similar situation what was the next stage of > deterioration if any? I don't know how common these symptoms are, but I can tell you that my mother had similar symptoms for a few years. Indeed, one of the big, screaming signs that there was something wrong with Mom other than a little age-related memory loss was that she started hallucinating stuff that never happened, and being convinced those hallucinations were real, no matter how little sense they made. As for the false deja vu, that's familiar, too. Last March when she stayed with me for ten days, whenever we went out she'd point to this or that building and say, "I've been in there." If I'd say "Um, Mom, that's a radiologist's office. Why would you have been in there?" she'd get defensive. I learned to let it go. But the hallucination thing can cause genuine trouble. At one point Mom hallucinated that some evil man had called her and told her that he was going to steal all her money. She went out that day and closed all of her bank accounts; it took my brother a week to get it straightened out. I'm afraid my best advice for how to cope is to get your mother into competent care if she can possibly afford it. Unless you (or you and whatever other family members can be counted on) can keep an eye on her 24/7, she really needs to be in care at this point. And personally, I wouldn't try to do it yourselves unless you have at least three or four of you who can trade off duty. It's just too big a burden. I realized that the symptoms of alzheimers is constant bluffing and she aggrevates on them. Something in her knows, but she doesn't let go. She needs to have her side of the story told. She is not aware of reality. I don't know, but I can only speculate. Ronald Reagan was an actor, he had alzheimers. Being in a mood of an actor, alsways speaking. In the past days I was thinking about alzheimers, just in general. I knew only one person, and I only met him once who had alzheimers. Would you believe that alzheimers is only a spell? Like the never-ending-story, speaking to one's delusions, and not to people or to reality, delusions take over. I figured that dementia is very related to madness, where madness is constant rational thinking, dementia is constant irrational feeling, both demented, and that dementia is feeding those thoughts. Since they are related, I figured that though experts recommend an active life for people with dementia, and they found it helps, it's the underlieing stress that is there, and that can be cured with anti-depressants. If madness can be cured, why not alzheimers? One important point is that new memory does correspond with memory braincell growth, and that means that memory that fades away can be caused by hormones that cause white matter loss. If the interest is only on annoying things, people forget. That happens to everybody. Print this out, take this theory from me, speak to a doctor, I think I found the cure perhaps. Let me know if my theory turns out to be true. George gb6724@yahoo.com On Jan 29, 6:57 pm, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > I realized that the symptoms of alzheimers is constant bluffing > and she aggrevates on them. Something in her knows, but [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > George > gb6...@yahoo.com It may seem paradoxical, as the first symptom of antidepressants would be an even weaker memory function. Like a complete memory loss. But I think that should be ok, ask the doctor. Because I think a recovery begins. She is using her memory in the right part of the brain. Paradoxical because doctors see activities as a good option to treat alzheimers, when it is the calm that should be a treatment, even reversing the brain damage and sparking memory growth. But according to my understanding, using antidepressants could start a long recovery. I am almost sure that this should work. But, that's me. George I'm not sure about the rational of your theory, or what your trying to imply. I think that these early stages of dementa are like filing deficits. The brains capacity for effective storage is going haywire, like a bad filing clerk accepts in coming documents from different sources, cuts them up and puts them into different files, then when the files are accessed and the information is put together again you end up with documents that appear to be from one source, something tells you that the pieces dont quite fit but that's the information you have so you make the best of it and use it. Everyone else knows that this is not right and then the filing clerk (i.e the brain) gets the blame. I agree that the awareness of something not quite right is stressful. I do bite my tounge and try not to show that things are not what they ought to be. But I do see her looking at me disapprovingly and she often chastises me for not beliving her. This stage I find emotionally difficult. My mother was always a dominant character there has only ever been her way of doing things, she was always right. For a quiet life, my sisters and I never openly rebelled, for the most part just quietly got on with our lives in our own way keeping as much of what she might disapprove of away from her. Now that that pattern of behaviour is ingrained she still mantains that aura of dominance and any slight inconcurrance with what she belives to be true is deemed rebellious behaviour!! So the brief period of my adult life is on hold, where I had just got to the point where I stood up for my beliefs, not hitting my kids, not ever believing in a god, divorcing the man who was unfaithful etc etc. Dealing with this disease is a lot more complicated than simply treating symptoms. jan Sorry the last post was in reply to gb6 jan > I'm not sure about the rational of your theory, or what your trying to > imply. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > jan Dominant character. Reagan had a dominant character. My theory is that as an American actor and politician he was bluffing. Like the never ending story, with each bluff made, a memory from where one comes from fades, like a spell. I am not a real doctor as you may have guessed. I believe in spells, I believe that anybody can have alzheimers if constant annoying thoughts cause memory loss (it does). The annoying thoughts you descrive become like witchcraft. Reagan was highly into astrology. He only agreed to political meetings worldwide if the stars were right according to his family astrologist. I merely realized that there is a relation between madness and alzheimers, only that the two occur in different parts of the brain, but both represent dementia. Madness can be cured with antidepressants or mood controllers. I believe that antidepressants could work for alzheimers. George George wrote in part - > Madness can be cured with antidepressants or mood controllers. > I believe that antidepressants could work for alzheimers. From my experience, and from reading about other's experiences in this newsgroup, I doubt it very very much indeed SignatureA R Pickett aka Woodstock "Sometimes the facts threaten the truth" Amos Oz, prize winning Israeli author Read my book reviews at: http://www.booksnbytes.com/reviews/_idx_ws_all_byauth.html Now blogging! http://www.journalscape.com/woodstock/ Remove lower case "e" to respond > George wrote in part - > Madness can be cured with antidepressants or mood > controllers. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > From my experience, and from reading about other's experiences in this > newsgroup, I doubt it very very much indeed The onset of alzheimers is a mild brain damage. That damage has an effect on a person like witchcraft. A person is demonized, and the endless annoying thoughts release a hormone that deletes memory, white matter. It was thought in the past that people are born with a number of braincells. It is now known that new memories form white matter in the brain, and based on that finding, we can conclude that given a certain mood found in senile people, in a state of mood when people are constantly annoyed about something, the natural tendency of a person is to become forgetful when being like that. I think we have a nature that hormones are released that cause memory loss. But being stuck with demenia, new memories are not formed. But the underlieing problem is the hormone in the brain that is produced during a demented state of mind. Since memory is lost over time, the demenia grows as a person gets ever more disoriented. But I also found that madness is a state of dementia, but in a personality change way. A person can become the algorithms in math, so the brain does not lose a personality and memories gradually, but acquires a new one instead, but it is demented. The cause is demenia, and in madness the brain works differently than in alzheimers. The point is that in madness, demenia is cured, the same thing that causes alzheimers in ordinary people. Demenia or dementia, I am not of English descent. >>George wrote in part - > Madness can be cured with antidepressants or mood >>controllers. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The onset of alzheimers is a mild brain damage. That damage has an > effect on a person like witchcraft. A person is demonized, What crap. By the way, I have a bunch of friends who practice witchcraft; there's no demons involved, nor any belief in Satan. Dana > gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>George wrote in part - > Madness can be cured with antidepressants or mood [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Dana That's the biggest bluff. Alzheimers has a demented side, as madness. http://www.ndrtv.de/doku/images/blair_tony_bush_160x120.jpg On Jan 30, 6:45 pm, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > > gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>George wrote in part - > Madness can be cured with antidepressants or mood [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > http://www.ndrtv.de/doku/images/blair_tony_bush_160x120.jpg And its like telling children that George Bush does not like to make wars. That a bluff did not start the Iraq war (and now the Iran war is breaking out based on the same claims that Iran harbors terrorists). Do you see that it is a bluff? What is a bluff? Do senile old people tend to bluff all the time, speak to themselves, seem angry? Those who are constantly annoyed tend to become forgetful, that is true for everybody. On Jan 30, 6:48 pm, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 30, 6:45 pm, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > speak to themselves, seem angry? Those who are constantly annoyed tend > to become forgetful, that is true for everybody. What is a bluff? http://www.wwwk.co.uk/images/people/politics/tony-blair.jpg > The onset of alzheimers is a mild brain damage. That damage has an > effect on a person like witchcraft. A person is demonized, and the > endless annoying thoughts release a hormone that deletes memory, white > matter. what a total waste of bandwidth, and what total nonsense. PLONK. everybody else should killfile this idiot, too. he's as bad as mr. "ironjustice". >> I'm not sure about the rational of your theory, or what your trying to >> imply. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > George My mother in law was on antidepressants all through out her illness, and the dosage was increased all through it too. Didn't stop it. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn Ruut >>I'm not sure about the rational of your theory, or what your trying to >>imply. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Madness can be cured with antidepressants or mood controllers. > I believe that antidepressants could work for alzheimers. My mother got worse when she went on antidepressants. She was more cheerful, but her memory was no better, her hallucinations didn't go away, and she rapidly became paranoid and resentful of those who were trying to care for her. Try again. Dana > I believe that antidepressants could work for alzheimers. which displays your complete, utter, and total IGNORANCE of the facts regarding this disease. it's already been proven many times that antidepressants do not "work for alzheimers". PLEASE go bother some other goofy alternate health newsgroup, but stop posting this ignorant nonsense in alt.support.alzheimers. On Jan 30, 7:30 pm, NO_SPAM_TO_dphar...@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris) wrote: > On 30 Jan 2007 07:41:11 -0800 in alt.support.alzheimers, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > PLEASE go bother some other goofy alternate health newsgroup, but > stop posting this ignorant nonsense in alt.support.alzheimers. Always bothered like a Republican faggot. > > > I believe that antidepressants could work for alzheimers. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Always bothered like a Republican faggot. Meat eaters. PLEASE. World wrestler federation in the house. Look at dye thick arms of War Brain Bluffington. Hahahahahahahaha. He thinks he can beat me. Hahahahahahahaha. I am a cannibal. I eat people. I rip a piece of skin off him in front of the cameras. On Jan 31, 9:39 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > I believe that antidepressants could work for alzheimers. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > of the > cameras. That skin of course is a piece of rubber with red ink underneeth. Common guys. On Jan 31, 9:42 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 9:39 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Common guys. Dressed as a Washington politician. And a Cannibal. > Dealing with this disease is a lot more complicated than simply > treating symptoms. that's true with any mental illness. and dementia *is* a mental illness, just an irreversible one. > On Jan 29, 6:57 pm, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> interest is only on annoying things, people forget. That >> happens to everybody. I suppose too that you believe in the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. We have to deal with realities here. A. There is no cure. Wish it were so, but no. B. Who said that all madness can be cured? C. Yes everybody forgets but comparing that to dementia is like saying pneumonia is nothing more than a cough. Your post sounds like scientific essay on denial.....June > <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Your post sounds like scientific essay on denial.....June Not on denial. On Reagan's "bluffing" as actor, as Washington politician. Bush is demented. Blair is born demented (see pictures). Witchcraft. http://re3.mm-a8.yimg.com/image/4142934277 http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/07/bush_and_blair.jpg A mesmerizing character of a devil. He doesn't see. He sees only power, money and fame. He sold his soul to the devil and became an evil culprit, a bastard. http://re3.mm-a3.yimg.com/image/2569714344 Demented: http://www.tv-celebrity.co.uk/images/politics/tony-blair-biography.jpg Its how I came to realization of demenia, alzheimers and madness just by hating Bush. I don't know if you're serious or just a bored college kid but a troll is a troll....Plunk!! > I don't know if you're serious or just a bored college kid but a troll is a > troll....Plunk!! You must be ugly looking. >> I don't know if you're serious or just a bored college kid but a troll is >> a >> troll....Plunk!! > > You must be ugly looking. You are in the wrong newsgroup. Go instead to alt.quacks.trolls Plonk. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn Ruut > <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Evelyn Ruut Demented, arrogant. The fat evil nurse in the schizophrenic house. Not even sexy. Ugly. Marshing people around in the 21st century. On Jan 30, 2:54 pm, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > > <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Demented, arrogant. The fat evil nurse in the schizophrenic house. > Not even sexy. Ugly. Marshing people around in the 21st century. By the way I am not a human rights activist. I am a cannibal. I eat people. The only reason I can eat people, is because there is a level. I am a lifetime dissident and peace activist on the other hand. I take pride of my accomplishments, be it food, or be it an idea on curing alzheimers. A breakfast special made of a pig. (Lunch and dinner is referred to a monster, we as cannibals eat what we call monsters.) > I don't know if you're serious or just a bored college kid but a troll is a > troll....Plunk!! it's obvious he's a mentally ill person who's off his meds. but i agree, it's time to killfile this thread and stop feeding this troll. >>I don't know if you're serious or just a bored college kid but a troll is a >>troll....Plunk!! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but i agree, it's time to killfile this thread and stop feeding > this troll. He's plonked. First KF for this group for me. Dana > >>I don't know if you're serious or just a bored college kid but a troll is a > >>troll....Plunk!! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dana Without a delay, fascist psychosis is a tremendous illness. Go home supremacist terrorist freak, a pig sour for Cannibals, as you incline torture. An animal that does not kill its food any more, and if it would, it would torture it for hours before it dies, and as that she is supreme. Its horrible, a criminal act of suicidal stalking by using words of terrorism and supremacy, a hate crime, a murderer by inclination. f.ck YOU PSYCHOPATH, pursuit is what fascists did as racists. You are low. A terrorist. A pig. On Jan 31, 10:27 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>I don't know if you're serious or just a bored college kid but a troll is a > > >>troll....Plunk!! [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > a murderer by inclination. f.ck YOU PSYCHOPATH, pursuit > is what fascists did as racists. You are low. A terrorist. A pig. OH PLEASE. Rights will solve health care... and fascists will always be supremacists, cowards, and deadly arrogant. On Jan 31, 10:31 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 10:27 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > OH PLEASE. Rights will solve health care... and fascists will always > be supremacists, cowards, and deadly arrogant. As a human caught in the second world war through my grandmother's stories and now almost in the third of terror, I feel like moving a sword slowly through your fascist lower abdomen and moving it up. On Jan 31, 10:38 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 10:31 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > sword > slowly through your fascist lower abdomen and moving it up. My grandmother's father was taken away in a truck and never seen again, for the racist coldness. The coldness that does not see, that assimilates all for the struggle of a local power, by means of you, your parents, your tiny life on the net where you are inclined to make a statement of supremacy, superstition, force, image, an image of supremacy. Like your father Bush. OH PLEASE. HE IS A JEW. unprecedented. republican. On Jan 31, 10:52 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 10:38 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > an image of supremacy. Like your father Bush. OH PLEASE. HE > IS A JEW. unprecedented. republican. That's what humanity offers. On Jan 31, 11:04 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 10:52 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > That's what humanity offers. It is called a shishkebob barbicue special, Australian style, barbie with punk rock music. On Jan 31, 11:08 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:04 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > with > punk rock music. That's what humanity offers. Food. I am not a human rights activist. I am a cannibal. I eat people. The only reason I can eat people is because there is a level. On Jan 31, 11:15 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:08 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I am a cannibal. I eat people. The only reason I can eat people is > because there is a level. In fact I think you numb people's minds like a nurse who is marshing around in a schizophrenic house, but ended up on an outdoor table, plates, swords for eating. A happy time. The Devil is growing up. He sits and laughs, but now more like a big King. His beast is happy, and has a slave. The beast has skin as black as coal, black, beams red light, black, beams red light, when he is happy. Blood squirts, some like the meat red. The Devil and the coal beast, and the beast's slave are a special guest for this feast. On Jan 31, 11:46 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:15 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > guest > for this feast. So the Coal Beast asks: "So what do we call this food, fascist?" Cannibal: "What matters is the level and age. Fascists from World War II are more valuable, more original. This one is new, a neo, from the 21st century Google mind control department, a cheap one, and a female, it's not the hard meat version extremist fighter. Just the daily big government secretary with a running nose as she loves to type dictations for the feurer, her shoulders have mucus wiped, typing so passionately, doesn't even dare to stop to blow her nose in a napkin. Her feurer was everything for her. She is special, worth a quality label. Let's make a photo, I'll hold the label, 3 stars." On Jan 31, 11:46 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:15 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > guest > for this feast. So the Coal Beast asks: "So what do we call this food, fascist?" Cannibal: "What matters is the level and age. Fascists from World War II are more valuable, more original. This one is new, a neo, from the 21st century Google mind control department, a cheap one, and a female, it's not the hard meat version extremist fighter. Just the daily big government secretary with a running nose as she loves to type dictations for the feurer, her shoulders have mucus wiped, typing so passionately, doesn't even dare to stop to blow her nose in a napkin. Her feurer was everything for her. She is special, worth a quality label. Let's make a photo, I'll hold the label, 3 stars." On Jan 31, 12:22 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:46 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > for her. She is special, worth a quality label. Let's make a photo, > I'll hold the label, 3 stars." "Mrs. OH PLEASE, Neo Nazi, 3 stars Shishkebob" Everybody put your heads in the picture. On Jan 31, 12:32 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 12:22 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > "Mrs. OH PLEASE, Neo Nazi, 3 stars Shishkebob" Everybody > put your heads in the picture. Devil: "So who is she?" Cannibal: "Acts of supremacy, using mind control and terrorism and hate campaigning, stalking that is. Psychosis is schizophrenia, a schizophrenic barbaric supremacy. We are the smartest humans alive, we are cannibals, we know what we eat, you should know. We can only eat them because there is a level. She is not human, we refer to our food as 'monsters'. Perhaps you would like to stay for the barbicue?" Devil: "Perhaps, I do. I am hungry. My beast and his slave are hungry as well. What is it that made her be a supremacist fanatic?" Cannibal: "Class. It is the poor who are sanctioned by Americans. A million Iraqi died, America thinks they are important. They do not think." Devil: "Very well, let's all grab our swords, and chop in! Hahahahahaha. Ooh hahahahahahahahahahahaha." On Jan 31, 12:22 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:46 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Jan 31, 12:22 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:46 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > for her. She is special, worth a quality label. Let's make a photo, > I'll hold the label, 3 stars." Devil: "I just came to take her soul. What was her crime?" A cannibal: "Fascist authority, relentless supremacy, mind control, fascism, terroristic supremacy over other people, relentless arrogance and crimes against humanity, torture, ku klux klan." Devil: "Torture, biggotry, authoritarianism, sadism, that's all I need to hear. Hahahahahahahahaha, Hoo hahahahahahahahahaha, she is mine. A schizophrenic maniac." On Jan 31, 11:15 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:08 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > I am a cannibal. I eat people. The only reason I can eat people is > because there is a level. Terrorist schizophrenic society, by the way. My saliva is running. On Jan 31, 11:08 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:04 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > with > punk rock music. You think it is slick Google mind control, but it is terrorism. On Jan 31, 11:33 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 11:08 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > You think it is slick Google mind control, but it is terrorism. Mind control is a horrible illness. On Jan 30, 7:35 pm, NO_SPAM_TO_dphar...@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris) wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:49:48 -0500 in alt.support.alzheimers, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > but i agree, it's time to killfile this thread and stop feeding > this troll. Crimes against humanity, without a delay for cyberterrorism. Pursuit, stalking, terrorism, endless hate campaigns, supremacy, terror by mind control. www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index2.htm On Jan 31, 10:18 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > Crimes against humanity, without a delay for cyberterrorism. Pursuit, > stalking, terrorism, endless hate campaigns, supremacy, terror > by mind control. > > www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index2.htm Cyber ku klux klan, the pursuit of terror. On Jan 31, 10:21 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 31, 10:18 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cyber ku klux klan, the pursuit of terror. Schizophrenic. On Jan 31, 12:04 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 10:21 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Schizophrenic. Schizophrenic. On Jan 31, 12:07 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 12:04 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Schizophrenic. Schizophrenic. On Jan 31, 12:08 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 12:07 pm, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Schizophrenic. Schizophrenic. Can you explain why you are posting so many messages which don't seem to be part of a conversation? I estimate one message every three minutes or so for three hours. A protest, but its probably what they say cowboy. Or French, speaking to myself, maybe I am demented. Maybe I have alzheimers. Maybe I am here to cure my own. Like a cowboy I have to do everything myself. You should understand what a demenia is. You guys are all alike, you speak to yourselves. Its just seeing is believing. Ever seen a god damn cannibal? It doesn't matter what he say, it won't make a god damn difference. In days of slavery, the situation was the same. There was the all-wise slave owner. But so did Kings knew best what's best for the people. The situation is simple. Derranged psychopaths always wanted to rule the world and establish Bush's Universal for all to fight 4. This is the 21st century freak. Now you know. I am not a human rights activist. I am a cannibal. I eat people. The only reason I eat people, is because there is a level. I found that in the United States, I am a lifetime dissindent and peace activist, and there is a level, in fact, one day I found a craving for eating people, whom I now refer to as 'monsters'. For breakfast it is ok to refer to a meal as one made of a pig. Never mind, you won't understand. Just eat, vote, and live. What I am talking about is the world. You don't see any more. It is never-ending story. A level grew between us and you. A hint: 80-90 percent of Arabs now think negatively of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of Americans. Bush is erecting a model Roman Democracy in the mid-East, erecting Iraq as a model that will be better than Arabs. Does this make any sense any more? Bush said Saddam was harboring terrorists. Two days ago Bush said Iran is harboring terrorists, and Bush is planning for a war. There is a level, man. Huns were cannibals. They kicked the romans' ars. Attila the Hun in the 5th century ate two of his kids. He killed his brother for half the empire. His cotere of wives killed two of his sons and prepared them as Attila's gulash. Cannibals were by far more advanced than the Romans. The model Democracy of the world was destroyed. Attila had an army of 700 thousand in the fifth century. The style of the Huns was too advanced for the sluggish Romans. The Huns are coming. This is what the cannibals see: While there was not one Iraqi killing an American in history, Bush claimed Iraq harbors terrorists. Now Bush claimed Iran harbors terrorists. According to a jewish study, 80-90 percent of Arabs now think negatively of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of Americans. By a million percent, the biggest terrorist is Bush. Normally one would stop this madness and crimes against humanity. Racism is all else, Iraq today is being erected as a model country for the whole Arab world, a model Roman Democracy, a country that would be better than Arabs. A supremacy, in all regards an illegal invasion, illegal politics and crimes against humanity that went out of control. Demented people control the world. And then see Blair, he is demented, like Bush. http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/07/bush_and_blair.jpg How does one cure dementia? How does one make Bush see all the problems, in that way, he wouldn't do what he does, and he would not be demented. The dementia is insanity that an empire does, and forgot that the USA is not just a regime and empire, but a country. In fact most see, but are disturbed from what Americans should see, but do not, and what remained in the USA is dementia, as humanity. It is a question, what is dementia. One thinks of knights. One sees the things that are not our time, but ancient, brutal, Bush's America lost track of the current times, of the 90's. And having lost track, one is peceived as demented. It is not the discrimination what these people did as I came. It is dementia. It is also yours. It is ok to become a Cannibal. But you have to throw away your past. Your determination is a great humanitarian loss, your sadistic tendencies are immense, not to mention a great loss for any form of life and peace dissidentry. What remains, is a monster that ever loses its, its, its, a human degradation into rot and dementia. It was barbarianism that ended the Romans. They were eaten. The Romans tried to build a model Democracy, the USA tried it again. But everybody can see that Americans are stupid. Stubborn. Powerful. Swinging a huge Roman arm around. The whole world is now barbaric and Americans are stubborn. I am eating Americans. f.ck it. I am a Hun. There is a level. Erecting Iraq as a model Roman Democracy, an example for the whole Arab world, one that is better than Arabs. You are stupid. Your mother is stupid. Bush speaks of the USA as a model Democracy. Eaten, don't go out. Stay in fear. You are low. How low? Osama did not attack with the whole Arab world, just as Timothy McVeigh did not attack with the whole American world. Can't be that low. Iraqis never killed an American before when Bush framed Saddam of harboring terrorists. Two days ago he said the same of Iran, that Iran harbors terrorists. Both the USA and Iran have been preparing for a war in the past days. A schizophrenic mafia, blackmails Democracy if they are with Saddam and the terrorists or with the president. Of course Democrats voted for the president. The president has been reminding Democrats if they are flip floppers like Saddam or with the country. A schizophrenic mafia that seeks to take the course to the end as Hitler did, a racist war as Iraq is being erected by Bush as a model Democracy that is better than Arabs. A racist leadership that blackmails Democracy. A racist America that only knows sentiment to jail, to rule, to death sentence, to do anything, so called lawlessly, as an empire, but in ways that are the lowest, and shockingly primitive and empty. Uneducated. 80-90 percent of Arabs now think negatively of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of Americans. The only terrorist by a million percent is Bush. Go home, Lime before I spit in your face. Erecting Iraq as a model Roman Democracy, an example for the whole Arab world, one that is better than Arabs. You are stupid. Your mother is stupid. Bush speaks of the USA as a model Democracy. Eaten, don't go out. Stay in fear. You are low. How low? Osama did not attack with the whole Arab world, just as Timothy McVeigh did not attack with the whole American world. Can't be that low. Iraqis never killed an American before when Bush framed Saddam of harboring terrorists. Two days ago he said the same of Iran, that Iran harbors terrorists. Both the USA and Iran have been preparing for a war in the past days. A schizophrenic mafia, blackmails Democracy if they are with Saddam and the terrorists or with the president. Of course Democrats voted for the president. The president has been reminding Democrats if they are flip floppers like Saddam or with the country. A schizophrenic mafia that seeks to take the course to the end as Hitler did, a racist war as Iraq is being erected by Bush as a model Democracy that is better than Arabs. A racist leadership that blackmails Democracy. A racist America that only knows sentiment to jail, to rule, to death sentence, to do anything, so called lawlessly, as an empire, but in ways that are the lowest, and shockingly primitive and empty. Uneducated. 80-90 percent of Arabs now think negatively of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of Americans. The only terrorist by a million percent is Bush. Go home, Lime before I spit in your face. You are the lowest. Erecting Iraq as a model Roman Democracy, an example for the whole Arab world, one that is better than Arabs. You are stupid. Your mother is stupid. Bush speaks of the USA as a model Democracy. Eaten, don't go out. Stay in fear. You are low. How low? Osama did not attack with the whole Arab world, just as Timothy McVeigh did not attack with the whole American world. Can't be that low. Iraqis never killed an American before when Bush framed Saddam of harboring terrorists. Two days ago he said the same of Iran, that Iran harbors terrorists. Both the USA and Iran have been preparing for a war in the past days. A schizophrenic mafia, blackmails Democracy if they are with Saddam and the terrorists or with the president. Of course Democrats voted for the president. The president has been reminding Democrats if they are flip floppers like Saddam or with the country. A schizophrenic mafia that seeks to take the course to the end as Hitler did, a racist war as Iraq is being erected by Bush as a model Democracy that is better than Arabs. A racist leadership that blackmails Democracy. A racist America that only knows sentiment to jail, to rule, to death sentence, to do anything, so called lawlessly, as an empire, but in ways that are the lowest, and shockingly primitive and empty. Uneducated. 80-90 percent of Arabs now think negatively of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of Americans. The only terrorist by a million percent is Bush. Go home, Lime before I spit in your face. Your crime as American has no world spit left. It all starts on a day in the late 90's when I want to buy a satellite dish. But the community does not allow it. In fact not one community in Colorado allows it, because it spoils the view. Saddam's Iraq and North Korea did not allow satellite dishes because of the information, but in the USA it was because satellite dishes spoil the view of the community. Around 2001, the supreme court slammed down bans on satellite dishes as people had the right to information. But retards are still retards of super-power and conservative community fascist inclinations that have no sense at all to the rest of the world. They believe in things that are weird. They do things to ordinary freedom that only dictators do. And they hate people, and hate the world and send their kids to military school so they become super- Americans like their parents. Bush doesn't have a TV. Its the Republican fashion. Do all the things dictators do to people, and feel rich. They are crazy people, and racists, and supremacists, fanatics. No words can describe. I don't want to lie to you, it is fascist and retarded. I was going to say mind control as well, but it is primarily a dementia of a brainwash. Supremacy is derranged. A model Democracy is barbaric. Mind controlling others for a rule of law of Capitalism, in other words, for the undemocratic rules of an empire that religiously and pathetically tries to rule the world brings cannibals of the highest level, lifetime dissidents and peace activist who know show their balls at America and shake their cock and tell Americans that they will piss in their mouths. These are far past Nobel dissidents. And in this barbaric world George Soros, known in Europe as the most Noble man alive who dedicated billions of dollars for Democratic education, particularly during communism, was called a drug lord by a Republican leader. Americans, their country diseased with the deepest crimes of conspiracies and fascism have only terrorism in their heads, and only torment, Abu Graib style sadist, and ku klux klan on the net. And still denying and taking a 'ruling' stance of barbarism over all the West, over all of history, denying and primitively seeking a fascist rule over the world, with military in 110 countries, listening to all phone calls in the world and calling itself free. Monsters, loosers in all regards of descency. Fight criminal. Fight as American for your demented empire, where 1st Lt. Ehren Watada was arrested for speaking of the President and of Iraq by making contempt toward other officials. The President and the Iraq War are general concerns, while those making Republican concerns are not jailed. Like under Pinochet, all political opponents are hurt and discriminated. Sink fascist. In all regards demented. http://www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/Blair.JPG http://www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/index8.htm Toast. Mental level of a racist 5 year old. Tartar sandwitch (raw grinded meat). > Can you explain why you are posting so many messages which don't seem to > be part of a conversation? I estimate one message every three minutes or > so for three hours. It's a troll, cowboy. And what's worse, with a new identity so we have the joy of killfiling him twice! SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn Ruut > And what's worse, with a new identity so we have the joy of killfiling him > twice! At least. ;-) > > And what's worse, with a new identity so we have the joy of killfiling him > > twice! > > At least. ;-) f.cking shoot him cowboy! Comedian by profession. On Feb 1, 10:52 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > And what's worse, with a new identity so we have the joy of killfiling him > > > twice! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Comedian by profession. Comedians are the most serious people, but are never taken seriously. A comedian is supposed to bare all discrimination. Shoot'n me. On Feb 1, 10:57 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 1, 10:52 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Shoot'n me. Sick people are here. See my father always told me that he with a Ph.D would never post in usenet. Its the price of being a King. On Feb 1, 10:59 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 1, 10:57 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Its the price of being a King. You know, here I am a cannibal, and a King of that, talking about a lifetime dissidentry and peace activism. But people react to intelligence, and they don't like it, they call it a troll. So I try to be like them, a cannibal like them, vicious, patriotic about world peace, and threatening back, calling the world police on them, reporting them to the UN and to the Interpol (International Police Organization). Because being smart is being a rude patron. Sure one might say troll, but that is a human rights violation, really. They only see their side, and that is sad. Lack of any human dignity is horrible, but it is the world on the net, like that, they want authority. History always causes harm based on cruelty and envy. I am not just a cannibal. I eat people obsessively. Psychopathic madness filling the world, causing relentless hate everywhere. I am not going to cure anybody, and if I try, they viciously attack, in ways that make a level maximum. The loss of human consciousness is why I came here. This is the place of dementia. I am aware of that. On Feb 1, 11:10 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Feb 1, 10:59 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > is why I came here. This is the place of dementia. I am aware of > that. Do not submit to the empire or become demented. Why would a cannibal want to submit to an empire where all the barbaric monstrocities yell from old women's mouths as curses. No. A cannibal is quiet and eats people and is not interested in the King. A cannibal lives in roots underground and makes up stories. > it's obvious he's a mentally ill person who's off his meds. > > but i agree, it's time to killfile this thread and stop feeding > this troll. Fascists lost decades ago. Stop hoping in a Bush racist supremacy. Google mind control is not working. On Jan 31, 10:09 am, gb6...@yahoo.com wrote: > > it's obvious he's a mentally ill person who's off his meds. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Fascists lost decades ago. Stop hoping in a Bush racist supremacy. > Google mind control is not working. She sits and treats all newcomers with Bush style unprecedented psychosis. Extreme discrimination, extreme supremacy, extreme ku klux klan inbreded in the cyber instincts, a supremacy disorder, one of a fascist inclined supremacist who wants blood, who blackmails all political opponents, who declares a capitalist rule of law above all, who looks above the crowd, who wants to see the people cheering, an authoritarian (territorial like Saddam aims to eliminate all political opponents with greed and framing) then he slowly raises his arm, and the authority speaks for the first time in public. A protest would mean nothing to them. The success of an empire takes all precedence. Repression, empire, and OH PLEASE evil laughter and humiliation, a supremacy disorder personality goes extreme and makes fame as invincible, and all words are one of being invincible. The American in mind, Capitalism embraced as Capitalist law of order above all, the fascist authority prevails as power from now on for them. It is as Soros said, us and them, a ruler claims all to pay dues, a ruler decides, a ruler becomes an executioner, and the job is taken to the end as that, though the world suffers. Mind control takes no chance. One asks why. He looks around and finds 1st Lt. Ehren Watada who spoke of the President and of the Iraq war and was arrested for making contempt toward other officials. Say there are things going on that are not normal. Things changing, and people who were not there when it all broke out after 9/11 notice things that are changing and are wrong. 80-90 percent of Arabs now think negatively of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of Americans. What's going on, this is racism. A lot of people when the Iraq war broke out protested against a racist war. How can America be so alienated, so brutal like an Empire trying to rule above Arabs. Iraq is being erected TODAY as a model for the whole Arab world, a roman model Democracy so to speak. This is not intelligent to fight for an Iraq that is a model for the whole Arab world, a country better than Arabs. A racist dictatorship of an empire that went hard core and demands barbarically disregarding all for HIS interests. Why? 1st Lt. Ehren Watada was arrested for making contempt toward other officials for speaking of a problem that effects all people. A general concern, while those making Republican concerns are not arrested. Months after his arrested in court he was declared a desertes. It is all about us or them. An extreme that fights for a Democracy, but neglects it for his power as ruler, as he claims, and demands dues to be paid to King, and tells all to shut up. He becomes barbaric. In a barbaric country, reality has nothing to do with anything, all becomes sentiment of power, an identity with power. Prisoners are jailed and sentimentally expected to suffer, as was the case in any ancient empires. Schwarzenegger refused to refute the death sentence of a man whose writings in prison were nominated for the Nobel Prize. Schwarzenegger claimed the man did not show enough remorse for his crimes to the families of the victims. In reality, she who is raped, the last she wants is for the rapist to come and make up. But Schwarzenegger and the racist society wants prisoners to suffer for their crimes. And this is in reality a crimes against humanity discrimination. In Europe, a person is not free when in jail and free when out of jail. In the USA one lives with records, one is expected to report to the government, and the government is expected to protect the people. It is called authoritarianism. Austrians after Schwarzenegger's refusal to refute the death sentence of that man said: authoritarianism is not necessary and it is barbaric, and Schwarzenegger's home town renamed a stadium they named after Schwarzenegger once. (This event held Schwarzenegger from visiting his home last year.) Bush like a mafia used 9/11 for his interests, and like a mafia blackmails people if they are with Saddam and the terrorists or with the President, if Democrats are flip floppers like Saddam or with the country, of course Democrats voted for the Iraq war, but it was blackmail. Bush wanted a puppet government, and signed an agreement with Nancy Pelosi that she wouldn't stop the Iraq war, and that she wouldn't impeach him. This was when the Democrats won the control of the house in the mid-term elections. What was born was an extreme relationship between Democrats and Republicans and between the world. An extreme power that seeks to win no matter what, and take the course to the end, and an extreme sociological condition made fanaticism. To radicalize George Bush, the Republicans raged sociological wars as means to use power rather than diplomacy in all regards. Now there is war on everything. George Bush speaks of world enemies and the Capitalist rule of law (as Communism would be a rule of law), now it is the Capitalist Power that takes it's rulership over the world and politics. Of course, Hitler may have called it a liberation using racist means and visions to take control of the world as a super-power, but he was a dictator and the world saw an invasion, as Arabs and the world sees an invasion by the erection of an Iraq as a model Democracy. A barbarism that went extreme, Republicans intend to rule the world by all means of mind control, framing, and taking. A mental illness. Everything is discarded and whored. The American weakness is like Google, thinking little of people, and filling everything with warnings while raping human rights. The Google warning above when I post: "The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet." Don't people know that is message is posted, people will see it? It is a mentality that lives on repressing all political opponents, as Capitalist extremists, as organizations that invest in illegal mind control and fascism and illegal human rights violations driven by the bloodiest sentiment of an empire. On top of it crimes against humanity. Psychotic terrorizing forms of stalking, terrorizing, hate campaigning, humilating, discriminating as sick idiots of merciless dictatorial, territorial monsters. Ku klux klan. The lowest. The lowest. With all the power invested in me, humanity declares a crimes against humanity, and you are labeled 'food'. You will see that humanity is hungry, and that humanity is hungry for you and for your demented megalomania of bluffing, to serve the bloody mafia, to discriminate in a relentless mode living for fear, keeping fear, and superstitiously framing and taking and living the American dream that is now suffering a crime of a megalomaniacal stalker and criminal mafia brain, aka Brain Buffington Power that now framed Iran as well for harboring terrorists. In all regards, a level. To end the Brain Bluffington Power, is to understand. Not one Iraqi in history killing Americans, but it was Iraq harboring terrorists. Now it is Iraq harboring terrorists. Bush turned the Arab world, and now 80-90 percent of Arabs think negatively of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of Americans. The only terrorist is Bush, by a billion percent. But you live in the dark. I eat monsters. But that's good. |
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