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A R Pickett - 09 Jan 2007 08:01 GMT
My father died this evening.  I have been suspecting something would happen
very soon, my sister, who lives nearby had a fantasy that when things were
close the hospital staff would move him to ICU.  As many times as I tried to
express my feeling that ICU would only be indicated if there was a true hope
of recovery, she only gave that idea lip service, and as recently as
yesterday refused my offer to come immediately, and told other family
members that the next few months he would mostly be resting in bed in the
nursing home.

He fell about a week before Christmas (still living in his independent
apartment) and we discovered that he had been bleeding into his stomach for
weeks, perhaps longer.  From events we were aware of for the last several
months, in fact, the bleeding had almost been certainly going on for a few
months, at least.  Hindsight is always 20/20, as they say.  He had said
nothing about any gastric distress, suspicious looking stools, nothing.

The hospital gastro staff cauterized two bleeding ulcers, he had perked up
quite a bit, as late as Friday evening he was sitting up, fully dressed in
his wheelchair, trading jokes with my sister and signing some forms for
Medicare, Medigap coverage, etc.  But close to bedtime on Friday he was
extremely short of breath, and the NH staff sent him back to the hospital
where pneumonia was diagnosed.  He just sort of drifted in and out after
that, and began to refuse medication and also his meals.

He and my mother had a very acrimonious relationship for about the last 35
years of their 64 year marriage, and while he never denigrated her in my
hearing (and the reverse was far from true, believe me) he still acted kind
of chipper with all that vitriol over and done with.  Began to correspond
with old girl friends, drove around Southern Iowa with a friend visiting the
graves of other former sweethearts, and displayed the picture of at least
one old flame rather prominently in his apartment.

But 3-4 days ago, he told his pastor that he really missed my mother. Since
I miss her, too, I am somehow as I write this, thinking of that as a
precious gift to me from him, even second hand.

The next week or so will be pretty busy - there's a lot to plan, as you all
well know.

Thanks for your friendship during the months I've been posting here.  I'll
check in again when things calm down.

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Nina Pretty Ballerina - 09 Jan 2007 08:07 GMT
> My father died this evening.  I have been suspecting something would
> happen
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> Thanks for your friendship during the months I've been posting here.  I'll
> check in again when things calm down.

sorry for your loss, woodstock.  That is a lovely thought about his missing
your mother being a gift.

I hope the next few weeks can be a time of peace as you share your cherished
memories of your father

chris in oz
violetvache@yahoo.com - 09 Jan 2007 11:02 GMT
So very sorry to hear about your loss.  I should have posted the Emily
Dickinson poem today instead of yesterday ("After Great Pain").  You
have been so kind and temperate in your responses to my posts, and many
people mistakenly assume that kind of spirit is a blessing someone is
born with, when more often it's forged by fire.

There will be a certain peace now, perhaps.  The death of someone very
close always rips another hole in our spiritual garments no matter what
the nature of the relationship during life.  If you were content with
your relationship with you father in the months preceding his death, I
suppose that's something to be coveted.  In any event, my sincere
condolences to *you*.  You deserve peace.
Evelyn - 09 Jan 2007 11:36 GMT
> My father died this evening.  I have been suspecting something would happen
> very soon, my sister, who lives nearby had a fantasy that when things were
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Dear Woodstock,

So sorry to hear of your Dad's passing.    He came to the end of his
journey with loving chidren who cared much about him.   May your grief
be short and your memories of your dear father, long.

Below is a famous story, well known in buddhist teachings.

*******

When the Buddha was alive, a young mother named Kisa Gotami lost her
only child.  We all can understand how terrifying it would be for any
mother to see her child die.  Because of her intense love and affection
for the child, she lost her mind.  In that state, she believed that the
child was just ill, and she was determined to find a cure.  She carried
the body on her shoulder and roamed the city, asking each person she
met to heal her child.  A wise man who understood her distorted
emotions sent her to the Buddha.

Holding the corpse in her arms, she arrived at a beautiful park where
the Buddha was teaching.  The moment she saw the Buddha, she appealed
to Him to heal the child.  The Buddha compassionately understood her
emotional state.  Without mentioning anything about a cure, the Buddha
said, "Your child has died, but before I do anything about it, please
go and collect some mustard seeds from a house where no one has ever
died."

Happily she thanked the Buddha and took off on her mission.  Her mind
now filled with hope, she went from house to house asking for mustard
seeds.  Every house she went to had mustard seeds, but she could not
find a single house where there had been no death.  Eventually the
truth dawned on her.  The grief and the pain of losing her beloved
child faded away.

She understood her own insanity.   That deep awareness of death brought
her not only emotional healing of her personal trauma but also an
understanding of the true nature of life.   The awareness of death gave
her a sense of peace and harmony.  She properly disposed of the corpse
of her child and came back to the Buddha.

The Buddha knew of her transformation.  He counseled her and delivered
a dharma discourse on the nature of things.  Inspired by the wisdom of
the teachings, she asked the Buddha to ordain her as a nun.   After
becoming a nun, she meditated on death and, realizing the impermanent
nature of all existence, she attained enlightenment.

For twenty-five hundred years, Kisa Gotami has been one of the most
famous enlightened nuns in Buddhist history.  All the Buddhist children
in Sri Lanka learn her life story.  When I learned it, I was about
eight years old.   It is a story that I have heard many times.  Each
time I hear it and contemplate its message of impermanence, death, and
the implications that follow, it adds another layer of profoundness to
the meaning of life.  For this woman, the move from ignorance to
complete awareness of the truth of her child's death brought liberation
and enlightenment.

We too must train ourselves to awaken to the profound lessons about the
realities of life that are hidden within the experience of death.
These lessons are waiting to lift us from the grief that is sapping our
energy; they are there to nurture us and to make our continuing
journey, and that of those around us, joyous and meaningful.  To
realize this, we need to go beyond the pain of our emotions and let a
spark of truth touch our
hearts, as it did Kisa Gotami's.  After all, wouldn't that also be a
beautiful gift to give to our departed ones?

This quote was taken from: LESSONS OF THE LOTUS Practical Spiritual
Teachings of a Traveling Buddhist Monk -By Bhante Y. Wimala- Published
by Bantam Books Copyright 1997 by Bhante Y. Wimala

*******

(end quoted material)

Regards,
Evelyn
ladylove77 - 09 Jan 2007 13:56 GMT
My sympathy to all of you.  It is a very upsetting, confusing time I know.
Gwen

> My father died this evening.  I have been suspecting something would
> happen
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Thanks for your friendship during the months I've been posting here.  I'll
> check in again when things calm down.
Adelle - 09 Jan 2007 15:01 GMT
Dear Woodstock;

May you be comforted at this difficult time.

In Judaism, when someone passes, we say, "blessed is the true judge." In the
Almighty's judgment, it was time. Seems perhaps your dad felt that way, too,
in his comment about missing your mom. What a lovely gift to know your dad
in many of his dimensions as a human being.

Adelle

> My father died this evening.  I have been suspecting something would
> happen
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Thanks for your friendship during the months I've been posting here.  I'll
> check in again when things calm down.
June - 09 Jan 2007 16:45 GMT
I'm so sorry for your loss.   It's hard to give them up even when we know
the way of life and death.....June

> My father died this evening.  I have been suspecting something would
> happen
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Thanks for your friendship during the months I've been posting here.  I'll
> check in again when things calm down.
Dana Carpender - 09 Jan 2007 22:06 GMT
((((((((((AR)))))))))))

So sorry.

Dana
deerwoodflower@hotmail.com - 10 Jan 2007 04:43 GMT
So very sorry,Barb
> ((((((((((AR)))))))))))
>
> So sorry.
>
> Dana
Dennis P. Harris - 10 Jan 2007 11:43 GMT
> As many times as I tried to
> express my feeling that ICU would only be indicated if there was a true hope
> of recovery, she only gave that idea lip service, and as recently as
> yesterday refused my offer to come immediately, and told other family
> members that the next few months he would mostly be resting in bed in the
> nursing home.

as you now know, denial is not a river in egypt.

sorry about your father, but he's at peace now.  no more
confusion or anger, just memories of the good times you had
together.
august - 10 Jan 2007 20:53 GMT
> My father died this evening.  I have been suspecting something would
> happen
> very soon,

Very sorry to hear of your loss.

My father is in the same condition and could go at any time.   AW
Alan Meyer - 11 Jan 2007 01:43 GMT
I'm sorry for your loss Woodstock.  My condolences to you
and your family.

    Alan
Chuck Whealton - 13 Jan 2007 02:11 GMT
Woodstock:

I'm sorry to hear this, man.  One thing is for certain, even if you
know what's coming, it never seems to make it any easier once it
happens.

Don't hold it against your Sister.  Without going into detail, I
certainly remember fooling myself when my Mother was going.  Boy, did I
full myself.

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Chuck Whealton - 13 Jan 2007 02:12 GMT
Woodstock:

I'm sorry to hear this, man.  One thing is for certain, even if you
know what's coming, it never seems to make it any easier once it
happens.

Don't hold it against your Sister.  Without going into detail, I
certainly remember fooling myself when my Mother was going.  Boy, did I
fool myself.

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Limestone-Cowboy - 24 Jan 2007 09:58 GMT
My father died at the age of 89 on Monday (22nd January 2007). After
suffering from Vascular Dementia for several years he died of heart
failure, a fairly quick release from this world.  I have been trying to
find out if there is a specific charity in the UK dealing with research
into Vascular Dementia, all I find is references to Alzheimers.

I would be grateful if anyone could advise with regard to this, as it
seems that Vascular Dementia seems to be a poor cousin when it comes to
publicising the problem.  Many of the outward symptoms are the same yet
the causes seem fairly obvious, a method of limiting the development
would be useful to many people who may be mis-diagnosed.

Regards

Nick Latheron
www.latheron.free-online.co.uk
Dana Carpender - 24 Jan 2007 18:18 GMT
> My father died at the age of 89 on Monday (22nd January 2007).

I'm sorry. :-(

Dana
Dennis P. Harris - 25 Jan 2007 09:42 GMT
> I have been trying to
> find out if there is a specific charity in the UK dealing with research
> into Vascular Dementia, all I find is references to Alzheimers.

me too, and i did several different searches.  if there is an
organization dealing only with vascular dementias, you may be
able to find out from whichever government agency registers
charities in the UK.

if not, you might consider charities that deal with strokes and
high blood pressure, the causes of vascular dementias.

that's what finally got my mother --- she was hypoxic, got
confused about her meds, stopped taking her blood pressure med
and had some mini-strokes that resulted in a very quick decline.

sorry about your father.  i hope that you always remember all the
good times with him.
Limestone-Cowboy - 25 Jan 2007 12:25 GMT
>>I have been trying to
>>find out if there is a specific charity in the UK dealing with research
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> sorry about your father.  i hope that you always remember all the
> good times with him.

I have been informed by The Alzheimers Society that they will on request
pass on all or part of a donation to Vascular Dementia research if the
person making the donation wants them to.
 
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