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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / November 2006mssg from the heart
Hi, I am a new member and I have joined this group with pure intentions. I do hope that some of you will allow this to sink in to the heart where this message is coming from and intended for. My own search of the mystery of life led me to people and places, often within. It finally led to Chi Kung and its 5,000 year old wisdom. It is based on harmony and balance within oneself and peace with nature. So no wonder it also unveils the secrets to maintaining and restoring good health. In my journeys, I have met many teachers (I am a Chinese Singaporean and educated in both English and Mandarin) and I have met one recently that was exceptional in using Chi Kung for healing a large number of persons with a wide array of difficult illness including terminal cancers. His student patients included VIPs like then Minister of Health of Malaysia and wife, wife of current Chief Minister of Penang state who had lung cancer, then deputy prime minister and a string of other VIPs.... I shan't go on but he has saved many on the brink of despair and death. I would like to share this crucial information to those that are in need but am afraid some people will object to it. There is a website to go to but I wouldn't post it here. If there is anyone who is interested to know more, I can be contacted via email. Thank you. Regards, Samuel Sam, I have just explained to you on the prostate cancer newsgroup that qigong cannot cure cancer. It cannot cure Alzheimer's disease either. What is your connection to this qigong practitioner that you are advertising on dozens of newsgroups? Is he a relative of yours? Does he pay you money to spam the newsgroups in this way? His website is ridiculous. It pops up commercial ads for all sorts of crap. It makes outrageous claims about curing every disorder that you can name. It uses absurd meaningless statements like "his cancer index was 100" This man encourages people to forego medical treatment and pay him for his mumbo jumbo instead. You say he only charges $10 for a treatment. I don't believe that for a minute. I bet he sucks every penny out of a person that he can. I believe that he is a fraud, a quack, a liar, a thief, and a murderer of any person who foregoes medical treatment for a serious condition in order to get qigong instead. You know all that but continue to spam the newsgroups anyway. To my mind, that make you a fraud, a liar, and an accomplice to murder. You will grow old like everyone else. One day you will have cancer or heart disease or alzheimer's disease. I'd like to see if you go to master YuYang then so that he can channel cosmic energy into your worthless heart. Get off the newsgroups! Stop spamming us! Alan Alan, How do you know? Have you bothered to even take a good look? It might save your life! Why are you so stubborn to resist what could be a gift? This gift might not be just for you but also for your family. You should read the heart-felt stories real people went through. So I ask you to allow your heart to feel my energy. There is not a trace of aggression or selfishness. I do not gain anything other than the simple persons to persons goodwill. Sam > Sam, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Alan > Alan, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sam I read those stories Sam. They were pure BS. I didn't believe any of them. I don't believe most of those people even exist. I think the author of the web pages made them up. Furthermore, I didn't read one single story on the website about anybody who went to the "master" and came away unhelped. He makes it sound like everybody gets cured - no matter what his disease. That is not possible. Nobody can do that. When someone says he can cure cancer, arthritis, heart disease, and a host of other serious diseases by "channeling cosmic energy", then he's either a crazy fool, or a liar. And there aren't many crazy fools who have the skills to put up websites with pop up ads. I will give you the benefit of reserving some judgment about your personal role. Maybe you honestly believe this ridiculous crap. But I don't think "Master YuYang" does. There is a famous preacher in the United States named Ted Haggard. He had a huge church with 14,000 members. He was the leader of a nationwide American church movement. He was a great speaker who could thrill huge audiences with his talk about morality and Christian values. Tens of thousands of honest, decent, Christians believed in him. It was revealed two weeks ago that he was a secret patron of homosexual prostitutes, a secret drug user, and a public liar. Don't let "Master YuYang" fool you. I think he's a fraud too. Alan >> Alan, >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Alan There are diseases with psychosomatic causes and those with real organic causes. These so called healers often get some kind of "results" because people with psychosomatic illnesses may be momentarily convinced they are 'cured' somehow. But like you Alan, I believe this Sam person is a spammer and is doing more harm than good prescribing Qigong for alzheimers disease. All one has to waste is their time and money, to discover that organic diseases don't get cured like this, from some so-called guru or other. It is my opinion that for certain people it is somehow essential to them to try and suck others into their neurotic mind-game as a means of reinforcing their own belief system. When it fails to 'cure' they can blame lack of faith as the cause. It's just another kind of snake-oil baloney, of course. As for me and mine, I will go and see the doctor if we are sick.  SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') like this, from some so-called guru or other. > It is my opinion that for certain people it is somehow essential to them > to try and suck others into their neurotic mind-game as a means of > reinforcing their own belief system. When it fails to 'cure' they can > blame lack of faith as the cause. It's just another kind of snake-oil > baloney, of course. Hey Evelyn, I'm amazed that with all these ' natural' and 'ancient' "cures" out there (must be 100 'cures' for every disease at least, I get 50 of them a day sent to me alone) , that anyone dies of anything other than car accidents or war. SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > like this, from some so-called guru or other. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 50 of them a day sent to me alone) , that anyone dies of anything other > than car accidents or war. The snake oil salesmen are always with us! :-) SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > Alan, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sam Puleeze! PLONK! SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com Hello, The claims made here are very disappointing. It is not only fraudulent to charge money for things like this but it is just plain cruel to hold out false hope that somehow one can buy their way out conditions like AD. The first sign of fraud in this arena is the monetary expectation of people like this. I have lived a spiritual life and one label that is used to describe me is "spiritual healer". Any "power" I may appear to have is not my own but comes from the divine. There is a tremendous difference between the spiritual healing I can help to effect and curing anything. If we project the notion that somebody like me or this other guy can somehow cure all our ills indefinitely then we should expect to live forever. These bodies we are in are simply not going to get us there. What I do is about the same thing ANYBODY can do when they pray for another. I have heard of some studies that indicate this kind of prayer really is helpful. It is not a substitute for medical treatment. Instead it can supplement medical treatment and may help somebody like a cancer patient more easily deal with the effects of radiation treatments. Surgical patients may recover more quickly and suffer from fewer complications. Prayers are free. Prayers are effective and sometimes they seem to effect an actual cure - a miracle if you will. They almost always improve the lives of people. Frauds like the subject of this thread upset people to the point they will reject even the benefits of spiritual 'healing' - prayers. Please do not be put off by this guy who says he will cure everything from cancer to bad hair days for a few bucks. If you are out of touch with prayer and you don't know somebody where you are I would be happy to talk with you in private email or even on the phone FREE. But please don't reject the power of the divine to help you through. Bill I hope that the following off-topic discussion will not offend anyone. It is not meant as a criticism of Bill or of anyone else. There was an interesting study performed a hundred or so years ago. A researcher compared the medical records of the British royal family to those of other people who were not royalty (but presumably got good medical care - such as it was back then.) His thesis was: If prayer helps to cure illness, the British royals should do better than other people because millions of loyal subjects prayed for them whenever they were ill. His conclusion was that prayer had no effect. The outcomes for the royal family were about the same as for everyone else. I don't personally believe that if we pray for someone's health we are benefiting that person in any way whatsoever. If God does not exist, then obviously the prayers will do no good. If God does exist, it seems likely to me that he does not intervene in the affairs of humans in that way. But even if he does intervene, it seems likely to me he would do so on the basis of his own judgments rather than on the basis of what prayers do or do not reach him. However it does seem likely to me that people who pray, and who believe in the efficacy of prayer, will benefit themselves. It may help considerably in putting their minds at ease, in accepting whatever happens to them and in fortifying their courage, their "spirit" as Bill would say. Alan > Hi, I am a new member and I have joined this group with pure > intentions. scam, scam, scam, go away! EVERYONE should just killfile this idiot and totally ignore him. PLONK. > > Hi, I am a new member and I have joined this group with pure > > intentions. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > PLONK. My ISP dropped usenet so I have just started accessing it via Google on the web. As soon as I learn how to killfile on the web I certainly will. Bill |
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