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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / September 2006Brain Degeneration / sleep disorders
I suppose since .. **hyperviscosity** is present in sleep apnea .. and since hyperviscosity is ALSO present in Multiple Sclerosis and .. since .. DECREASING viscosity RESTORES cognition in Alzheimers .. 'might' make an .. intelligent person .. rule IN .. hyperviscosity .. ----------------------------------- 19 Jun 2006 Sleep Disorders Are A Precursor To Brain Degeneration Researchers at the Mayo Clinic have found that people with sleep disorders develop degenerative brain diseases around 11 years after their disorder is diagnosed . The findings of the study are to be presented June 19 at the Associated Professional Sleep Societies' SLEEP 2006 meeting in Salt Lake City. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > I suppose since .. **hyperviscosity** is present in sleep apnea .. and > since hyperviscosity is ALSO present in Multiple Sclerosis and .. since > .. DECREASING viscosity RESTORES cognition in Alzheimers .. 'might' > make an .. intelligent person .. rule IN .. hyperviscosity .. > ----------------------------------- If one were bored. . .while waiting. . .for a party to start, and one wondered. . .what the hell **hypervixcosity** had to DO with multiple sclerosis. . .and one were to look up. . .such subject Online. . .one would find. . .ABSOLUTELY nothing. . .nada. . .nil. . .zilch. So an intelligent person. . .just might. . .rule IN. . .the fact that the poster. . .is the one. . .suffering from brain degeneration. . . Friends have just arrived. . .have a slice! Sylvia >>Sylv wrote: one wondered. . .what the hell **hypervixcosity** had to DO with multiple sclerosis. . .and one were to look up. . .such subject Online. . .one would find. . .ABSOLUTELY nothing. . .nada. . .nil. . .zilch. So an intelligent person. . .<< YOU 'somehow' .. lump YOURSELF .. in .. WITH .. intelligent .. people .. ? Explain that .. When you cannot even .. spell .. ? <<snip>> 26.2% of patients demonstrated an appreciable increase of blood viscosity <<snip>> [Changes in rheological properties of blood in multiple sclerosis and their correction] Karlov VA, Savin AA, Smertina LP, Redchits EG, Seleznev AN, Svetailo LIu, Margosiuk NV, Stulin ID Zh Nevropatol Psikhiatr Im S S Korsakova. 1990; 90(11): 47-50 As many as 45 patients with multiple sclerosis were examined for rheological blood properties. As compared to controls, the group under examination manifested the rise of plasma viscosity, acceleration of red blood cell aggregation. 26.2% of patients demonstrated an appreciable increase of blood viscosity. It is assumed that these changes contribute to the deterioration of microcirculation and aggravate the demyelinating process. Correction of the rheological properties of the blood by plasmapheresis coupled with other methods of pathogenetic therapy turned out effective. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk >>> Sylv wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > When you cannot even .. spell .. ? Oooh, you really, really zinged her with that one. I'm impressed! Isn't that from rule 77 of "The Guidebook to Trolling": "When you can't come up with anything better, attack their spelling." Just curious. > <<snip>> > 26.2% of patients demonstrated an [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > pathogenetic therapy turned out effective. Effective at what? Lowering blood viscosity? Curing MS? Saving mankind? Creating peace on earth? What? Please explain, in your own words of course, & without those damn ... ... ... ... ...'s. Morse code is typically used in the radio field, not in written communications. Alex >>Alex wrote: Effective at what?<< http://www.hubmed.org/search.cgi?q=16908731&kind=rel I suppose since they mention viscosity .. they might mean .. viscosity .. but that would mean one might already .. know .. they are targeting viscosity .. but that would mean one is keeping abreast of .. treatment .. possibilities .. Plasma exchange in neuroimmunological disorders: Part 1: Rationale and treatment of inflammatory central nervous system disorders. Lehmann HC, Hartung HP, Hetzel GR, Stüve O, Kieseier BC Arch Neurol. 2006 Jul ; 63(7): 930-5 Plasma exchange is a well-established therapeutic procedure commonly used in many neurological disorders of autoimmune etiology. It is thought that the beneficial effects of plasma exchange occur through the elimination of pathognomonic inflammatory mediators, including autoantibodies, complement components, and cytokines. In various neurological disorders, randomized controlled studies have demonstrated the efficacy of plasma exchange (eg, in Guillain-Barré syndrome and other forms of immune neuropathies). Although widely used, the potential benefit of plasma exchange in the treatment of multiple sclerosis, myasthenia gravis, and Lambert-Eaton syndrome is less clear. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk >>> Alex wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > viscosity .. but that would mean one is keeping abreast of .. treatment > .. possibilities .. OK, but let's look at what you quoted again: >> As many as 45 patients with multiple sclerosis were examined for >> rheological blood properties. As compared to controls, the group under [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> properties of the blood by plasmapheresis coupled with other methods of >> pathogenetic therapy turned out effective. Lets try something you seem incapable of, analysis. First it says that the MS patients showed a rise in blood viscosity. Then it assumes that the increased viscosity aggravates demyelination. Then it concludes by saying that plasmapheresis, combined with other, unnamed therapies, was effective. I ask again. Effective at what? Correcting blood viscosity or slowing demyelination? If it corrected blood viscosity, then what was the effect on demylination? What was the benefit to the patients? Did their symptoms improve? Was there a change in their EDSS scores? Do you even know what the EDSS is? > Plasma exchange in neuroimmunological disorders: Part 1: Rationale and > treatment of inflammatory central nervous system disorders. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > potential benefit of plasma exchange in the treatment of multiple > sclerosis, myasthenia gravis, and Lambert-Eaton syndrome is less clear. Here let me emphasize the last sentence for you: "Although widely used, the potential benefit of plasma exchange in the treatment of ***MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS***, myasthenia gravis, and Lambert-Eaton syndrome ***IS LESS CLEAR***." "IS LESS CLEAR": Sounds like they came up short on evidence, doesn't it? But how can that be? The first study said that plasmapheresis was "effective" in MS patients. This one says the benefits are "less clear". So, which is it? Please explain, if you are capable. BTW, how's your Nobel Prize nomination coming along? [Yes, I know I shouldn't encourage him. Sometimes, though, I just have to give in to temptation. You know, you get in one of those moods and decide, "What the hell, why not?".] Alex Alex; <snip> > Lets try something you seem incapable of, analysis. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > What was the benefit to the patients? Did their symptoms improve? Was > there a change in their EDSS scores? Do you even know what the EDSS is? <snip> > Here let me emphasize the last sentence for you: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "effective" in MS patients. This one says the benefits are "less > clear". So, which is it? Please explain, if you are capable. Don't confuse him with the evidence! <snicker> > BTW, how's your Nobel Prize nomination coming along? > > [Yes, I know I shouldn't encourage him. Sometimes, though, I just have > to give in to temptation. You know, you get in one of those moods and > decide, "What the hell, why not?".] I know, I know; we shouldn't be picking on the mentally challenged. But making him go off on one of his rants has the effect of letting everyone see him for what he is: an Internet looney. Sylvia > Alex; > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Don't confuse him with the evidence! <snicker> Hehehe, no chance of that! >> BTW, how's your Nobel Prize nomination coming along? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > But making him go off on one of his rants has the effect of letting > everyone see him for what he is: an Internet looney. Yeah, and as I told Joan, it is kinda fun to watch him sputter. Alex But how can that be? The first study said that plasmapheresis was "effective" in MS patients. This one says the benefits are "less clear". So, which is it? Please explain, if you are capable.<< The viscosity was .. changed .. for the better .. Was it .. not .. ? >> BTW, how's your Nobel Prize nomination coming along?<< It seems you have a smart .. mouth .. Don't .. it .. Let me propose something to you .. Since you are so intent on finding the wheres' .. withouts .. withins and whereevers .. why don't you purchase or find and place the full medical study .. then you can sit around and say that you .. **personally** have .. **done** .. something .. OTHER than .. run .. your .. fkg .. mouth .. Dig ..? Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > But how can that be? The first study said that plasmapheresis was > "effective" in MS patients. This one says the benefits are "less [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Dig ..? So, your so-called research or analysis consists of nothing more than looking at summaries of studies? Without analyzing the underlying data? Heh, I didn't think you could explain any of it. Alex Alex; > So, your so-called research or analysis consists of nothing more than > looking at summaries of studies? Without analyzing the underlying data? > > Heh, I didn't think you could explain any of it. I don't think he even knows what the Really Big Words in those summaries of studies mean, let alone understand half of what is being written about. Sylvia Heh, I didn't think you could explain any of it. Alex<< I guess the whole thing .. here .. is .. this FACT .. It doesn't really matter if .. I .. understand .. something .. It matters if YOU .. do .. How's the wheelchair holding .. up .. Now .... run your mouth .. some .... fkg .... more .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > Heh, I didn't think you could explain any of it. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It doesn't really matter if .. I .. understand .. something .. That's good, because you don't understand much of what you post! > It matters if YOU .. do .. We understand a LOT sbout you and your tactics. > How's the wheelchair holding .. up .. Mine's doing fine. I'd rather be physically messed up than totally messed up mentally, like you are. > Now .... run your mouth .. some .... fkg .... more .. Sure. . .glad to.. . .run my mouth. . .fkg. . .more. . . Sylvia >> Heh, I didn't think you could explain any of it. >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Sure. . .glad to.. . .run my mouth. . .fkg. . .more. . . Rather be .. fkg. . .more .. mouth .... than running .. > Heh, I didn't think you could explain any of it. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It doesn't really matter if .. I .. understand .. something .. So, you are admitting that you *don't* understand any of it. > It matters if YOU .. do .. As I have an education, it just so happens that I can understand the limited amount of information that you post regarding these studies. I would suggest that you get an education, too. > How's the wheelchair holding .. up .. Just fine, thank you. But why do you ask? Are going to hang out your shingle: "Tin-Pot Tommy's Groundbreaking Research & Wheelchair Repair Service" > Now .... run your mouth .. some .... fkg .... more .. Thanks. I will. Alex Alex; > Oooh, you really, really zinged her with that one. I'm impressed! He didn't even recognize a parody of his writing style (I use the word "style" loosely!) > Isn't that from rule 77 of "The Guidebook to Trolling": > > "When you can't come up with anything better, attack their spelling." LOL! What he thinks are spelling errors are really typos; this keyboard sucks. Sylvia > Alex; > >> Oooh, you really, really zinged her with that one. I'm impressed! > > He didn't even recognize a parody of his writing style (I use the word > "style" loosely!) Thats ok. I don't think he'd recognize his a.s, even with a mirror, flashlight, maps, compass, *and* a GPS unit! >> Isn't that from rule 77 of "The Guidebook to Trolling": >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sylvia Yeah, I glanced at the keyboard when I read his post about your spelling & immediately saw that it would be very easy to make that typo. His attack on your spelling is a classic troll technique. My little fictitious rule has a lot of truth to it, along with rule 1: "Never directly answer a question, always distract from it." Hence his answering questions by posting yet another study. I've never seen him answer anything in his own words or dots. Alex > So an intelligent person. . .<< > > YOU 'somehow' .. lump YOURSELF .. in .. WITH .. intelligent .. people > .. ? > > Explain that .. LOL! You have to be one of the dumbest clunks on the Internet, and you question anyone else's intelligence? The only comprehensive, complete sentences you have ever posted were copied from somewhere else. > When you cannot even .. spell .. ? Your spelling and grammar screw-ups are known far and wide. At least you have stopped mangling the Spanish language; well, we'll take what we can get. > <<snip>> > 26.2% of patients demonstrated an [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > LIu, Margosiuk NV, Stulin ID > Zh Nevropatol Psikhiatr Im S S Korsakova. 1990; 90(11): 47-50 Old, old stuff; 1990 was over 16 years ago, just in case they don't let you have a calendar where they've locked you up. So stuff it. Sylvia Old, old stuff; 1990 was over 16 years ago, just in case they don't let you have a calendar where they've locked you up. So stuff it. Sylvia<< >what the hell **hypervixcosity** had to DO with multiple sclerosis< You see the above statement .. ? YOU .. made .. the above statement .. ? Did you .. not .. ? That means .. evidence based .. you admit to not .. know .. about .. hyperviscosity .. That means .. you have **no reason** .. to BE .. on this particular .. thread .. But you already know that .. don't ya .. And NOW you .. attempt .. to COVER your stupidity .. By .. ? "Oh I know about that already .. I just forgot because the studies were very long ago .. " Instead of .. just admitting outright .. that the ONLY reason you follow up to .. MY .. posts in .. particular .. is that you are attempting to post .. SPECIFICALLY .. abusive .. followups .. to MY .. posts .. Isn't that right .. ya stupid .. cow .. Know .. thyself .. ya useless fk .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > That means .. evidence based .. you admit to not .. know .. about .. > hyperviscosity .. > > That means .. you have **no reason** .. to BE .. on this particular .. > thread .. I do know about hyperviscosity; I did what you do for your so-called "research." I looked it up on the Internet. You have no reason to be on an MS support group, but that has never stopped you. > But you already know that .. don't ya .. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > attempting to post .. SPECIFICALLY .. abusive .. followups .. to MY .. > posts .. Yep. I'm trying to let you reveal yourself for what you are. Give you enough rope, and you'll hang yourself everytime. > Isn't that right .. ya stupid .. cow .. > > Know .. thyself .. ya useless fk .. LOL! Now I got you stuttering and sputtering again. Sure doesn't take much to make you showl yourself for what you are: an abusive troll with delusions of grandeur. You're no fun anymore. . . Sylvia Sure doesn't take much to make you showl yourself for what you are<< Yep .. Someone who doesn't take bullsht from the likes of yourself .. What were you .. ? A stupid .. cow .. ? And a .. useless .. fk .. ? Yep .. A useless stupid fkg cow .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk >> That means .. evidence based .. you admit to not .. know .. about .. >> hyperviscosity .. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >Sylvia Ironjustice's red cell blood count has always blocked the flow of blood to his common sense. It's just something that happens, He can neither prevent nor solve that problem. Donn >>> That means .. evidence based .. you admit to not .. know .. about .. >>> hyperviscosity .. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Donn I think he got carried away with the blood-letting & his brain suffered hypoxia. Heh, too bad he didn't complete the job. Or it could be as the comedian (who I can't remember right now) says: "You can't fix stupid" Alex Alex; > I think he got carried away with the blood-letting & his brain suffered > hypoxia. Heh, too bad he didn't complete the job. <snicker> > Or it could be as the comedian (who I can't remember right now) says: > "You can't fix stupid" Or as my friend's nine-year-old kid asked her: "Do stupid people know they're stupid?" LOL! In the case of Ironhead, I think we already know the answer! Sylvia i thought every 1 knew.... He is here because if his great love for ME! Come on Sylvia. everyone know that....kiss kiss dough boy  SignatureLaura > You have no reason to be on an MS support group, but that has never > stopped you. |
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