Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / August 2006
granddad update
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Jules - 04 Aug 2006 16:33 GMT I have just seen him for the first time since he has been in a old peoples home for a week, its outside of my city.
I took the dog, i spoke to the person in charge who says he has seemed to settle down, he wont sit still and always tries to do things.
He recognised me, we went out into the garden as i took the dog, we spent a hour talking.
He said he liked it there, but couldnt wait to go back home.......that really hurt.
He was happy to see the dog, and the other way round although arthur kept exploring and weeing on the pants (Arthur the dog, not Arthur my granddad)
I told him that i had to get someone to call the hospital to pretend to be a official to find out which old peoples home he was in, as his son refused to tell me, and he called my father a bastard for not telling him, and i said we had a fight last week when i he wouldnt tell me, and he said he hoped i beat him for that.
He seems to be more on his feet, but i have noticed a sudden reduction in his memory, he didnt know some really simple things, like his home address, but that came to him after a while, although he know he wasnt in his home city.
He had fun with the dog, and he was sat with 3 old women went i arrived and they liked the dog too.
After seeing him there, i feel better that i thought i would do, but still not good.
Dana Carpender - 04 Aug 2006 19:56 GMT > I have just seen him for the first time since he has been in a old peoples > home for a week, its outside of my city. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > He was happy to see the dog, and the other way round although arthur kept > exploring and weeing on the pants (Arthur the dog, not Arthur my granddad) Please tell me that's a misspelling of "weeing on the plants." :-)
Dana
Jules - 05 Aug 2006 07:16 GMT > > I have just seen him for the first time since he has been in a old peoples > > home for a week, its outside of my city. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Dana OOPs yes i meant plants. He could smell a fox and spent half the time leaving his mark where could. All the old women liked to stroke him and said he was cute. Of course i am talking about the dog...not my granddad.
Dana Carpender - 04 Aug 2006 19:58 GMT > After seeing him there, i feel better that i thought i would do, but still > not good. ((((((((((Jules))))))))))
You've done the right thing, you know. It's just that sometimes the options are between sucks, sucks worse, and sucks so bad you're afraid the universe will collapse.
Dana
Jules - 05 Aug 2006 07:14 GMT > > After seeing him there, i feel better that i thought i would do, but still > > not good. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dana I just hated how he thought he was there for a break and wanted to go home..that hurt.
Chuck Whealton - 05 Aug 2006 16:44 GMT > > > After seeing him there, i feel better that i thought i would do, but > still [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I just hated how he thought he was there for a break and wanted to go > home..that hurt. That is one that hurts, to say the least. It was similar when my Aunt finally had to go. She kept asking my Uncle why he was leaving her there. Then when he would visit, ask him when she was going home. It may be expected, but it's very saddening.
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Chuck Whealton - 05 Aug 2006 03:02 GMT > I have just seen him for the first time since he has been in a old peoples > home for a week, its outside of my city. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > After seeing him there, i feel better that i thought i would do, but still > not good. 'Ya know what, Jules? Your Grandfather is lucky to have a Grandson like you that cares about him. Keep up the excellent work because I'd be willing to bet that you visiting him means more than he'll ever be able to tell you.
I have to second Dana's point... I'm hoping the dog was actually weeing on the "plants", not somebody's "pants". However, even if it was pants, I'd still bring the dog!
Charles R. Whealton Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
ladylove77 - 05 Aug 2006 03:43 GMT Jules, I'm glad you did get out to see your granddad and that you took Arthur. I know he enjoyed both of you. I hope he will adjust to the home quickly and you won't have to worry about him being cared for. Just visit him when you can so he will know he is loved. Gwen
>> I have just seen him for the first time since he has been in a old >> peoples [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > Charles R. Whealton > Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com Jules - 06 Aug 2006 10:58 GMT > Jules, I'm glad you did get out to see your granddad and that you took > Arthur. I know he enjoyed both of you. I hope he will adjust to the home [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Charles R. Whealton > > Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com Well i miss my granddad more than he misses me, its like all my life has gone, he wasnt just my granddad, he taught me everything i know and was my best friend. Hes always been there since i was a kid, taught me to fish, fix a car, count, the list goes on, all i ever caused my grandparents was heartache.
When i got back from visiting him i put the radio on in my house, and a Elvis song came on, the one where the autocue is wrong, about a man with a baldhead, who wished he had hair and he cant stop laughing...i hadnt heard that for about 10 years, never ever on this radio station and my nan and granddad loved that song, always brought a smle to them, this time it made me cry, but with some happiness. amazing coincidence.
Chuck Whealton - 06 Aug 2006 22:43 GMT > Well i miss my granddad more than he misses me, its like all my life has > gone, he wasnt just my granddad, he taught me everything i know and was my > best friend. Hes always been there since i was a kid, taught me to fish, fix > a car, count, the list goes on, all i ever caused my grandparents was > heartache. Jules, let it go, man... Without going into details, I know exactly where you're coming from. The only thing you can do now is just be there for your Grandfather and be DARNED glad that you're able to do so.
The type of person you are now is probably, at least in part, a result of you reflecting on your younger, not so great, years. Just because you're not an Angel during one time period in your life doesn't mean you're forever a "bad" person. People change, and I like to think most of us usually get better.
Just keep doing what you're doing. Your Grandfather is lucky to have you and I'll bet that deep down inside, he knows it, even if he can't quite express it at this point.
Charles R. Whealton Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
adstavis@gmail.com - 08 Aug 2006 04:26 GMT Heed these wise words, Jules.
We have to move on from our mistakes. ANd yes, you can remake yourself into how you really want to be, in terms of making better choices and living a life with more sense and integrity.
And honestly, it takes patience with yourself. You don't change decades of patterns overnight. But living a life which reflects who we are inside and not who we've been in the past is very possible.
Adelle
> > Well i miss my granddad more than he misses me, its like all my life has > > gone, he wasnt just my granddad, he taught me everything i know and was my [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Charles R. Whealton > Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com Jules - 10 Aug 2006 13:25 GMT > > Well i miss my granddad more than he misses me, its like all my life has > > gone, he wasnt just my granddad, he taught me everything i know and was my [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Charles R. Whealton > Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com I caused my grandparents hell when i was a teenager, didnt mean too, a lot was due to the age differance, like me hitting 15 and sleeping with girls bring them home (sometimes married) which they didnt aprove of, but my nan always made them welcome, infact often girls would still visit her once we split up....
Im lucky i had great grandparents, some people had no one when youg
Chuck Whealton - 10 Aug 2006 22:56 GMT > > > Well i miss my granddad more than he misses me, its like all my life has > > > gone, he wasnt just my granddad, he taught me everything i know and was [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Im lucky i had great grandparents, some people had no one when youg No question, you were lucky. And let there be no doubt, your Grandparents would NOT want you stewing over what you would have, could have, or should have done.
Just keep doing what you're doing NOW and I have no doubt you'll be fine!
Charles R. Whealton Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Jules - 05 Aug 2006 07:20 GMT > > I have just seen him for the first time since he has been in a old peoples > > home for a week, its outside of my city. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Charles R. Whealton > Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com He said he was pleased to see me, kept saying that, taking the dog made him feel special, they have always been close. I do remember taking Arthur the dog to a carnaval many years ago, with a mate, and were sat down watching some band and Arthur lifted his leg and wee'd on my mate...that was funny, i have a foto somwhere of a soggy t shirt
Chuck Whealton - 05 Aug 2006 16:46 GMT > > > I have just seen him for the first time since he has been in a old > peoples [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > some band and Arthur lifted his leg and wee'd on my mate...that was funny, i > have a foto somwhere of a soggy t shirt Hehehe... Well although not in this group, I have read someplace that animals appear to be REALLY GREAT for people who are being cared for, both older and younger. So wherever Arthur is leaving his mark, it probably doesn't matter. What matters is that he helps your Grandfather and your Grandfather's new friends.
Charles R. Whealton Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Jules - 05 Aug 2006 20:09 GMT > Hehehe... Well although not in this group, I have read someplace that > animals appear to be REALLY GREAT for people who are being cared for, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Charles R. Whealton > Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com I have the ugliest dog in the world, but everyone loves him, hes so smart. He can make anyone smile.
Evelyn Ruut - 05 Aug 2006 21:04 GMT >> Hehehe... Well although not in this group, I have read someplace that >> animals appear to be REALLY GREAT for people who are being cared for, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I have the ugliest dog in the world, but everyone loves him, hes so smart. > He can make anyone smile. He's adorable!
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Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
Deborah - 06 Aug 2006 00:42 GMT >>> Hehehe... Well although not in this group, I have read someplace >>> that animals appear to be REALLY GREAT for people who are being cared [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >:-) I agree with Evelyn, Jules. Arthur is so far from the ugliest dog in the world he can't even see the back of the line.
I'm trusting that you've seen pictures of *THE* ugliest dog in the world for several years running? Poor thing died a few months back, but, I must say, he was Supremely Ugly, alive or dead. (Not to say he was a bad dog, at all. He was just physically umpteen leagues beyond the usual description of ugliness.)
Go here, Jules, and abandon all hope of an Arthur placing, much less victory! LOL
http://samugliestdog.com/
Now that I've got the silliness out of my system, please allow me to tell you that I'm very pleased to hear that your granddad is now in a stable environment. Sorry it was traumatic for you both, but, we all know how devoted to him you are, and that you'll visit him as often as possible. You are a good grandson.
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Jules - 06 Aug 2006 10:53 GMT > >>> Hehehe... Well although not in this group, I have read someplace > >>> that animals appear to be REALLY GREAT for people who are being cared [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Best Well ok Arthur may not be the ugliest, but hes in the top 10!!! Just take a look here....
http://www.julianhales.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/arthur.htm
Hes so ugly no girl doggies like him, he takes after me.
Granddad seemed ok, he was happy to see me and the dog but it must be confusing and differant for him, not cooking for himself etc but he said the food was ok....
Jules - 06 Aug 2006 10:54 GMT > >> Hehehe... Well although not in this group, I have read someplace that > >> animals appear to be REALLY GREAT for people who are being cared for, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > :-) I know i am....but were talking about my dog!! ;-)
> Best Regards, > > Evelyn > (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') Liz (Aust) - 06 Aug 2006 07:27 GMT > I have the ugliest dog in the world, but everyone loves him, hes so smart. > He can make anyone smile. Hi Jules Arthur is NOT the ugliest dog in the world he is very cute. In Australia we have Pets for Therapy and dogs are brought into the general hospital as well as psych part. People love animals as they are accepting of all people.
All they look for is food, and love really and they are so willing to give love back to anyone who wants to pay them attention.
I am glad you got to spend time with your Grandad and he with both you and Arthur the dog. I am sure you made everyone's day taking the dog with you and that is something to be happy about.
Liz
Jules - 06 Aug 2006 10:37 GMT > > I have the ugliest dog in the world, but everyone loves him, hes so smart. > > He can make anyone smile. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Liz Hi Liz, yes he is ugly..so much so he answers to that ;-) When i took him he stayed with the old biddies, all the young carers wanted to stroke him but he sat with the old women. Hes smart, my myself would have wanted attention from the pretty carers, but i guess he just likes making people happy. Yesterday wasnt too good, as i had to goto the copshop and make a report against my father for something. When i go and see my granddad this week i will take some pics of A and A.
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