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rs1000b@yahoo.com - 24 Jul 2006 17:16 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm
Tumbleweed - 24 Jul 2006 18:59 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm

I saw that, interesting. As long as you are a mouse, they have cracked it!
Saw various comments on other sites about 6 to 7 years for general
avaialbility, if it all went well re working in people v rodents, lack of
side effects etc.

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JG - 25 Jul 2006 16:58 GMT
> I saw that, interesting. As long as you are a mouse, they have cracked it!
> Saw various comments on other sites about 6 to 7 years for general
> avaialbility, if it all went well re working in people v rodents, lack of
> side effects etc.

They are about to enter Phase II trials in humans with their latest
compound (PBT2), having already completed Phase 1 human safety trials.
So, instead of '6 or 7 years', you are probably looking at 3 or 4
years.

JG
Beth Cole - 25 Jul 2006 17:05 GMT
>>I saw that, interesting. As long as you are a mouse, they have cracked it!
>>Saw various comments on other sites about 6 to 7 years for general
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> So, instead of '6 or 7 years', you are probably looking at 3 or 4
> years.

Then we have the multiple years of waiting for the FDA approval process.
 I think that 6 or 7 may still be optimistic, as Alzheimer treatment
hasn't been fast-tracked the way that cancer & AIDS meds have.

Beth

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JG - 26 Jul 2006 04:02 GMT
> > So, instead of '6 or 7 years', you are probably looking at 3 or 4
> > years.
>
> Then we have the multiple years of waiting for the FDA approval process.

No. A standard FDA review of a New Drug Application (NDA) is 10 months
(that's the FDA's stated goal, at least). A priority review, which is
usually reserved for drugs for serious diseases, takes 6 months. I
don't know which designation this particular drug will fall under, but
either way, approval should take < 1 year.

More info on approval times can be found on the FDA's web site:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/reports/reviewtimes/

If their Phase 2 trial completes next year as planned, Phase 3 should
commence sometime in 2008, with the NDA likely submitted to the FDA in
late 2009. Which would put the consumer release sometime in 2010.
That's roughly 3-4 years from now, give or take.

JG
Tumbleweed - 26 Jul 2006 08:56 GMT
>> > So, instead of '6 or 7 years', you are probably looking at 3 or 4
>> > years.
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> JG

IIRC it took a couple of years for memantine to be approved, a drug that had
already been in use in germany for the previous 10 years.

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JG - 26 Jul 2006 20:46 GMT
> IIRC it took a couple of years for memantine to be approved, a drug that had
> already been in use in germany for the previous 10 years.

Forest Laboratories submitted an NDA for memantine in July 2002, then
voluntarily withdrew it right afterward (so they could include more
data), and resubmitted the NDA in January of 2003. FDA approval was
granted in October of 2003. That's ~ 10 months for approval once they
got their drug application straight.

For this new Alzheimer's drug, it should take around 10 months to get
approved or rejected (assuming a typical drug review cycle).

JG
Tumbleweed - 26 Jul 2006 21:56 GMT
>> IIRC it took a couple of years for memantine to be approved, a drug that
>> had
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> JG

OK thats better news for you folks.

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Chuck Whealton - 26 Jul 2006 03:12 GMT
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm
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Unfortunately, you have a very legitimate point, Tumbleweed.  But at
least it's SOMETHING.  Some day, one of these will PROBABLY pay off.
At least we can hope it will.

Charles R. Whealton
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Evelyn Ruut - 24 Jul 2006 19:43 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm

Wow, that is exciting news.
I hope it isn't another false hope.

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Tumbleweed - 24 Jul 2006 21:06 GMT
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm
>
> Wow, that is exciting news.
> I hope it isn't another false hope.

Of course not, I feel much better now I have taken the tablets <squeak
sqeak>

:-)

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Evelyn Ruut - 24 Jul 2006 21:33 GMT
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm
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> :-)

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RArmant - 25 Jul 2006 00:41 GMT
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm

PBT2 is 8-OH Quinoline
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=47696
RArmant - 30 Jul 2006 20:30 GMT
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5210048.stm
>
>PBT2 is 8-OH Quinoline
>http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=47696

I suspect that PBT2 is only a derivative 8-OH Quinoline. 8-OH Quinoline
appears to be highly toxic.

There are things Alzheimer's victims can take that might slow the
progression such as DHA and the green tea extract egcg.
 
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