Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / July 2006
what to do with mother? losing all her memory.
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steve2233h@yahoo.com - 12 Jul 2006 06:54 GMT My mother is 80 years old. She has alzheimers.
She spends all day screaming around the house looking for her things. She puts something somewhere and the next minute she can't remember where she put it, and she spends the next 2 hours looking for it. This happens every day and all day.
The problem is she can't even tell in clear words what is it she is looking for so I can help her looking for it. She is losing the ability to communicate.
Is this a common problem with Alzheimers?
I have no idea what to do, and I am getting very tired.
Tumbleweed - 12 Jul 2006 08:04 GMT > My mother is 80 years old. She has alzheimers. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I have no idea what to do, and I am getting very tired. Best place to start will be with local services. These will include your local Alzheimers society, get in contact with them whatever else you do, plus your doctors for advice, plus local social services. They will help you get started on the right things to do, which might include medication (is she on any), seeing a doctor (has she been diagnosed), going to a daytime centre as respite for you, and so forth.
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Evelyn Ruut - 12 Jul 2006 13:38 GMT > My mother is 80 years old. She has alzheimers. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I have no idea what to do, and I am getting very tired. Yes, of course it is common. Alzheimers is a disease where the person's memory, especially recent events, fails them. She can probably remember things from her youth very well, but cannot remember what she had for lunch, or even if she had lunch!
As has been suggested, you need to get a proper diagnosis from a doctor. It will involve a couple of tests, such as a blood test and perhaps a cat scan, as well as a test from a psychiatrist. This is not to determine if she is "crazy" but to determine exactly how much memory loss she has. The reason I mention this is because my mother in law panicked when we told her we were taking her to a psychiatrist. She kept telling us that she wasn't "crazy".
At any rate, once you have a real diagnosis in place, she will probably be given some of the very excellent new medications, which will give her a little better quality of life and help her memory a bit. You are fortunate in that there ARE some good ones out there! They are not a cure, but they will help.
Please be aware that if she is into the illness enough to be diagnosed with it, she may not be able to remember to take her medications, or whether she already took them or not. You may need to supervise the medication situation yourself for her.
Most of all you should not get angry with her. She really cannot help asking the same question over and over. She honestly thinks she is asking it for the very first time. She cannot find things because she has an organic illness that affects the memory in her very brain. She is going to require a lot of help. Try and be as patient with her as you can, because she is going to need to trust someone.
Make sure that if you do get a diagnosis it is EXTREMELY important to get certain legal documentation in place NOW while your mother is able to reason a bit. You will need to see a lawyer who advertises that he specializes in "elder law".
Good luck to you. As some of us like to say around here...."welcome to the club nobody wants to join" Post your questions or concerns here, there are a lot of knowledgeable people who post here, all of whom have had experience with the illness in their families.
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chuck_whealton - 13 Jul 2006 15:53 GMT > > My mother is 80 years old. She has alzheimers. > > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > Evelyn > (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox'I' Evelyn has summed it up pretty well.
This can be so hard to deal with it's not even funny.
The biggest thing is to do your best to keep your cool. Sometimes it's extremely hard, even when you KNOW your Mother doesn't realize she's sick.
Sometimes it's can be difficult to get the right balance of medications, and you will have to take care of them for her. Do yourself a favor and document them in a document, keep the previous revisions when they change, and get yourself one of the weekly pill containers so you can have them ready every day.
The adult day cares mentioned are good. They can also be expensive. If you talk to a social worker, sometimes they can recommend smaller outfits with good people that'll work for a bit less and even come to your house.
I'll go along with everybody here. I wish you the best of luck and hope it works out as well for you and your Mother as possible.
Charles R. Whealton Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Alan Meyer - 13 Jul 2006 21:59 GMT The kinds of memory and behavior problems your mother is experiencing are extremely common.
My Mom used to hide things all the time. We think she hid them because she figured that if she put things in a special place, where no one else could find it, no one would move it and she'd be able to find it again.
Of course 5 seconds after she hid it it was gone and no one could find it. Dad had to wait at the mailbox every day for the mailman because if Mom got to it first the mail would disappear, including for example, their Social Security check.
Others have given you good advice. One caveat however: the drugs that are available for treating AD symptoms don't work for everyone and can have side effects. If they do work, it is only for a limited time and to a limited extent. Nevertheless, they're probably worth trying.
Good luck.
Alan
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 14 Jul 2006 00:26 GMT Steve, sounds like you need some help with understanding this disease. You really do need to contact your local Alzheimer's Association and find out what supports, services, agencies, institutions, resources etc. might be available where you live. She's going to get worse, so if you are tired now,.......you need to line up the help right now and have a plan ready to go for when this gets to be too much for you to deal with at home.
I hope you have had her assessed by a doctor and properly diagnosed, and if possible, on some meds to help slow this down and/or reduce her agitation.
Here below my signature are the most commonly used set of definitions of the stages - I paste them here again for your reference, so you get an idea of what is entirely normal and to be expected for the illness, and so you get a preview of what is likely to come next.
Keep in mind, the disease is actually a continuem, so not everyone is going to fit neatly into a stage at any one time (i.e. your loved one may have characteristics that span several stages at once - i.e. a bit of stage 4, a lot of stage 5 and a few in stage 6). Stages are just a helpful way of "binning" symptoms to get a feel for where a person is in the disease based on the preponderance of their issues, and for anticipating what might come next.
The stages also don't cover every last bit of wierd hard to cope with behaviour every person with AD may go through, but the description is pretty good on a generic basis. Everyone has their own unique path through this. However, it sounds to me like she is likely at least into Stage 4.
Mary G.
Stages of Alzheimers
In 1982 Dr. Barry Reisberg published what was to become the best and most widely accepted description of the stages of Alzheimer's disease. Even today, 222 years later, when experts refers to a person being in stage 5 or stage 6, they are referring to Dr. Reisberg's scale of seven stages.
Adapted from Reisberg, B., Ferris, S.H., Leon, J.J. & Crook, T. The global deterioration scale for the assessment of primary degenerative dementia. American Journal of Psychiatry, 1982
Level 1
No cognitive decline - (or Normal Adult). No subjective complaints of memory deficit. No memory deficit evident on clinical interviews.
Level 2 Very mild cognitive decline (forgetfulness or normal older adult). Subjective complaints of memory deficit, most frequently in the following area: (a) forgetting where one has placed familiar objects; (b) forgetting names on formerly knew well. No objective evidence of memory deficit on clinical interview. No objective deficits in employment or social situations. Appropriate concern regarding symptoms.
Level 3 Mild cognitive decline (early confusional or Early AD). Earliest clear-cut deficits. Manifestations in more than one of the following areas: (a) patient may have gotten lost when traveling to an unfamiliar location; (b) co-workers become aware of patient's relatively low performance; (c) word and name finding deficit becomes evident to intimates; (d) patient may read a passage of a book and retain relatively little material; (e) patient may demonstrate decreased facility in remembering names upon introduction to new people; (f) patient may have lost or misplaced an object of value; (g) concentration deficit may be evident on clinical testing.
Objective evidence of memory deficit obtained only with an intensive interview. Denial begins to become manifest in patient. Mild to moderate anxiety accompanies symptoms.Deficits noticed in demanding employment situations.
Level 4 Moderate cognitive decline (Late Confusional or Mild AD). Clear-cut deficit on careful clinical interview. Deficit manifest in following areas: (a) decreased knowledge of current and recent events; (b) may exhibit some deficit in memory of one's personal history; (c) concentration deficit elicited on serial subtractions; (d) decreased ability to travel, handle finances, etc.
Frequently no deficit in the following areas: (a) orientation to time and person; (b) recognition of familiar persons and faces; (c) ability to travel to familiar locations. Inability to perform complex tasks. Denial is dominant defense mechanism. Flattening of affect and withdrawl from challenging situations occur.
Level 5 Moderately severe cognitive decline (Early Dementia or moderate AD). Patient can no longer survive without some assistance. Patient is unable during interview to recall a major relevant aspect of their current lives, e.g., an address or telephone number of many years, the names of close family members (such as grandchildren), the name of the high school or college from which they graduated. Frequently some disorientation to time (date, day of week, season, etc.) or to place. An educated person may have difficulty counting back from 40 by 4s or from 20 by 2s. Persons at this stage retain knowledge of many major facts regarding themselves and others. They invariably know their own names and generally know their spouse's and children's names. They require no assistance with toileting and eating, but may have some difficulty choosing the proper clothing to wear.
Level 6 Severe cognitive decline (Middle Dementia or Moderately Severe AD). May occasionally forget the name of the spouse upon whom they are entirely dependent for survival. Will be largely unaware of all recent events and experiences in their lives. Retain some knowledge of their past lives but this is very sketchy. Generally unaware of their surroundings, the year, the season, etc. May have difficulty counting from 10, both backward and sometimes forward. Will require some assistance with activities of daily living, e.g., may become incontinent, will require travel assistance but occasionally will display ability to familiar locations. Diurnal rhythm frequently disturbed. Almost always recall their own name. Frequently continue to be able to distinguish familiar from unfamiliar persons in their environment. Personality and emotional changes occur. These are quite variable and include (a) delusional behavior, e.g., paatients may accuse their spouse of being an impostor, may talk to imaginary figures in the environment, or to their own reflection in the mirror; (b) obsessive symptoms, e.g., person may continually repeat simple cleaning activities; (c) anxiety symptoms, agitation, and even previously nonexistent violent behavior may occur; (d) cognitive abulla, i.e., loss of willpower because an individual cannot carry a thought long enough to determine a purposeful course of action.
6a - Requires Assistance dressing 6b - Requires Assistance bathing properly 6c - Requires Assistance with mechanics of toileting 6d - Urinary incontinence 6e - Fecal incontinence
Level 7 Very severe cognitive decline (Late Dementia or Severe AD). All verbal abilities are lost. Frequently there is no speech at all - only grunting. Incontinent of urine, requires assistance toileting and feeding. Lose basic psychomotor skills, e.g., ability to walk, sitting and head control. The brain appears to no longer be able to tell the body what to do. Generalized and cortical neurologic signs and symptoms are frequently present.
7a - Speech ability limited to about a half-dozen intelligible words 7b - Intelligible vocabulary limited to a single word 7c - Ambulatory ability lost 7d - Ability to sit up lost 7e - Ability to smile lost 7f - Ability to hold up head lost
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