Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / July 2006
Early Onset Questions?????
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Larry - 30 Jun 2006 22:40 GMT This is my first day reading the group. Hopefully, I will be able to establish some contacts and learn about the problems specific to early-onset Alzheimer's.
Here is my story and some of my concerns. My partner of nearly 20 years has been diagnosed with early-onset. He is highly functional, maintains a full-time job without apparent problems. He is 54 years of age. Obviously, he is concerned with how well and he can maintain this level. I am concerned, as well. Some of the things I have heard about are forgetfulness. We all forget things. My concern: it is possible to be too diligent in noting instances of forgetfulness. How is this avoided? Should an instance of forgetfulness or different behavior be pointed out immediately, if at all? If one says something that is incorrect either dramatically or factually, should the patient be corrected?
It appears, not to do so might give one a false sense of well-being. An early-onset patient might very weli be as aware of these mistakes, or they may not be. How does one tell? One area that concerns me is: How and when our responsibilities shifted? It appears as though the normal activities of daily life should be maintained as long as possible. When it is the carrying on a ridiculous extent? Obviously, when an activity simply can not be performed, it is too late.
I say from the preceding two paragraphs, an idea of where I am in this upcoming situation is expressed well enough for a dialogue to begin. Someone out there has gone through this recently or is currently experiencing it right now. If anyone out there has any ideas or suggestions, or would just like to chat, please jump right in and let me know.
Larry
Kate - 01 Jul 2006 15:53 GMT Hi Larry These are interesting questions I ask myself every time I'm with my mother. After the third time I've told her what day it is, she asks yet again. And I so badly want to say "For the FOURTH time it's FRIDAY!" It's very tempting to remind her of each forgotten item. Because I'm still trying to prove to her that she needs to seek treatment. But reminding her of what she had forgotten was beginning to damage our relationship. How could I get her help if she kept throwing me out of the house everytime I said "Yes we did discuss this Mom."? In your situation, your loved one is already diagnosed. So there isn't really anything to prove by announcing each lapse. It's my opinion that one can be too diligent. You might keep track of the subject of frequent lapses, and develop a way for your partner to remind himself. I read of a woman with AD who was frequently asking what day it was. Her husband then created index cards. He put them in her pockets every morning. They had answers to her most frequent questions written on them. She grew accustomed to consulting this card, and it saved him alot of headaches. It may be early for a solution like this, but you get the idea. Perhaps there is something practical you can do to put a little responsibility back into your partner's hands. He may appreciate it greatly, since the recent diagnosis may have him feeling unable to control anything. Anyhow - just a suggestion. Best of luck, Kate
> This is my first day reading the group. Hopefully, I will be able to > establish some contacts and learn about the problems specific to [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Larry Evelyn Ruut - 01 Jul 2006 16:19 GMT > Hi Larry > These are interesting questions I ask myself every time I'm with my [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Best of luck, > Kate Dear Kate,
We tried writing things down on notes, but my mother in law couldn't relate to the notes anymore, and that happened relatively soon. We tried the little pill boxes with the days and times on them too, but she no longer understood one day from the other.
Reminding her that she has asked you the same question for the umpteenth time will only make her angry, because she will perceive your irritation with her. What we did with my mother in law, was to patiently and kindly answer the same question over and over again even if we were ready to scream. (and many times we certainly did scream at her........ but we soon regretted it, because she couldn't understand why we were being so nasty to her).
She really couldn't remember that she couldn't remember.
What might work with your mom, is to remember the old adage about catching more flies with honey than with vinegar. If you are super sweet and loving to her, telling her that you are really worried about her, and that she might possibly need a certain vitamin, or that there are drugs which can help her memory, and that if her memory problems are something which can be helped, and that it makes sense to catch it now, maybe that tactic might be better received.
She is probably afraid. Afraid of being diagnosed, of having a label slapped on her, of what it all means........ I know I probably would be too. My mother in law was also, but when we took the situation in hand, helping her and telling her that we were on her side, and engendering her trust, she did eventually go along with us. She might be more inclined to share her fears with you if she perceives that you come to her with these suggestions out of love and concern.
My father, on the other hand, is the kind of guy whom, if you are sweet to him he mistrusts you even more.
 Signature Best Regards,
Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 02 Jul 2006 17:51 GMT Hi Larry, I know your partner is concerned with how well he can maintain his current function - but the answer is, other than take his meds and take good physical care of himself, there is nothing either of you can do. He will go down hill, that is inevitable, and there are no mental gymnastics that will stop that process - and there is nothing anyone can do to predict the rate of decline.
You have the diagnosis, and what you've got is right now, this minute. My inclination is to not make each other crazy tracking lapses, but take each day as it comes and try to squeeze as much joy out of it as possible. Use today - take those vacations you've always wanted, visit friends and family, try out new activities you've been putting off, label the photos, see those movies, whatever. He has a terminal illness that will destroy his mind before it takes his life, so the time is short.
If you are continually pointing out deficits, correcting him etc. all you do is constantly remind him he has this terrible illness - and for what? Better to focus on the ability than the disability. Correcting him is not going to change the outcome, slow the decline, or make him any happier - it just rubs his nose in something he can't control. Make this about having the happiest last years possible.
In short order, despite the fact he is high functioning now, he will go through some humiliations you can't protect him from. He will start to decline, he will be aware of it in the first stages, the will have to stop driving, he will have to stop working, he will begin to lose his independence.
Part of the brain damage that goes with this disease is merciful - he will not always be aware of his deficits, or have insight into his problems. Protect his dignity. As the person with the intact brain, you will have to watch and change how you manage things as his deficits arise. He may never see what is devastatingly obvious to you. Find face saving ways to move in and support him doing the things he needs help with - but try to do it in a soft way, so he isn't more embarrassed and hurt by what he can no longer do. Have your back up plans in place long before you need them. Think through what you can do when he has to stop working, can't be left alone, etc. Check out resources, services and facilities long before you even have a hint of needing them, so that when that day comes you are ready to go with Plan B, and aren't in a scramble at a time of crisis. See a lawyer and a financial planner and get everything in place so you are ready for the worst.
I'd also get ready with supports and help for you, since this will be a grinder for you as caregiver and partner. Right now, it probably has not completely come home to you what this means - it certainly took us a long time to get our heads around AD with our loved one.
Incidentally, early in the game, my mother in law lost her ability to understand written text. She could read perfectly well, but understanding what she read was another matter. You can demonstrate this easily with someone in mid AD by giving them written instructions and asking them to read them out loud, and then do what the instructions say (i.e. pick up the book and put it on the table and put on the red hat). She could read the text perfectly well, but not follow the directions - reading and reading comprehension are two different things. This meant she could not follow written notes and prompts - and this happened fairly early in the game.
She also lost her understanding of sequences early in the disease, so she couldn't understand that 1 was before 2, or that 4 was after 3, or that January was before May, or Monday before Wednesday. This didn't just translate into problems handling money or dealing with finances, but problems understanding TV listings, reading a calendar, understanding time etc. Just something to be aware of, since these things happened when she appeared very high functioning - had you met her, you'd have had no idea that she couldn't understand that 3 pm was before 5 pm, or calculate that how much change she should get from a $20 bill on a $5 purchase.
Mary G.
Char - 04 Jul 2006 23:20 GMT Dear Larry,
Mary has said it all. My husband was diagnosed with EOAD 5 years ago although many here & I think it could well be something else because it has presented so differently. Now though, many AD symptoms do fit, especially sequencing. When he decided to help me by doing laundry, I had to label the bottles corner for bleach, center for fabric softener, & clothes for detergent. I first wrote directions on a piece of paper, but he told me he didn't understand that. One night after I had gone to bed, he decided to run the dishwasher--He couldn't remember where I had moved the detergent(I changed it after painting kitchen cabinets) so he used regular dish soap. Needless to say, he realized the mistake when suds started coming out of the machine. lol
I don't correct John; if he says I didn't tell him something, then I didn't tell him. No big deal to me. When something happens like the dishwasher incident, I shrug it off & we both have a good laugh.
John is very aware of his illness. We have gone through different stages though with the EOAD. One stage we are still going through is dealing with his frustration & agitation because he is aware of what he should be able to do but can't.
Finally, John has stayed active with his computer & does crossword puzzles daily. It takes him longer, but he still does them. Encourage your partner to stay active with his hobbies. By the way, the computer also helps him keep track of the date & current events.
Good luck,
Char
> Hi Larry, I know your partner is concerned with how well he can > maintain his current function - but the answer is, other than take his [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Mary G. Alan Meyer - 02 Jul 2006 23:37 GMT Larry,
Your partner might wish to look into some of the clinical trials for new Alzheimer's drugs. There are 115 trials listed at:
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/search?term=alzheimer%27s+disease
Not all of these are treatment trials.
The chance of getting benefit from an investigational drug is not high. Most of them do not pan out, or provide only a small and temporary benefit. Some may have negative side effects. In some studies, the patient may get a placebo instead of the real drug - though the real drug may be offered to the placebo patients when the study is done, if it turned out to be beneficial.
Still, participating in a trial offers a small chance at early access to something that might turn out to be a breakthrough. It also enables the patient to contribute to research on the disease. Even patients who do not benefit themselves may be able to benefit others by participating in trials.
Finally, participation in a clinical trial often provides good access to the very best specialists who can provide the best available advice and information to patients.
Good luck.
Alan
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