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Early Onset Questions?????

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Larry - 30 Jun 2006 22:40 GMT
This is my first day reading the group.  Hopefully, I will be able to
establish some contacts and learn about the problems specific to
early-onset Alzheimer's.

Here is my story and some of my concerns.  My partner of nearly 20
years has been diagnosed with early-onset.  He is highly functional,
maintains a full-time job without apparent problems.  He is 54 years of
age.  Obviously, he is concerned with how well and he can maintain this
level.  I am concerned, as well.  Some of the things I have heard about
are forgetfulness.  We all forget things.  My concern:  it is possible
to be too diligent in noting instances of forgetfulness.  How is this
avoided?  Should an instance of forgetfulness or different behavior be
pointed out immediately, if at all?  If one says something that is
incorrect either dramatically or factually, should the patient be
corrected?

It appears, not to do so might give one a false sense of well-being.
An early-onset patient might very weli be as aware of these mistakes,
or they may not be.  How does one tell?  One area that concerns me is:
How and when our responsibilities shifted?  It appears as though the
normal activities of daily life should be maintained as long as
possible.  When it is the carrying on a ridiculous extent?  Obviously,
when an activity simply can not be performed,  it is too late.

I say from the preceding two paragraphs, an idea of where I am in this
upcoming situation is expressed well enough for a dialogue to begin.
Someone out there has gone through this recently or is currently
experiencing it right now.  If anyone out there has any ideas or
suggestions, or would just like to chat, please jump right in and let
me know.

Larry
Kate - 01 Jul 2006 15:53 GMT
Hi Larry
These are interesting questions I ask myself every time I'm with my mother.
After the third time I've told her what day it is, she asks yet again.  And
I so badly want to say "For the FOURTH time it's FRIDAY!"  It's very
tempting to remind her of each forgotten item.  Because I'm still trying to
prove to her that she needs to seek treatment.   But reminding her of what
she had forgotten was beginning to damage our relationship.  How could I get
her help if she kept throwing me out of the house everytime I said "Yes we
did discuss this Mom."?
In your situation, your loved one is already diagnosed.  So there isn't
really anything to prove by announcing each lapse.  It's my opinion that one
can be too diligent.
You might keep track of the subject of frequent lapses, and develop a way
for your partner to remind himself.  I read of a woman with AD who was
frequently asking what day it was.  Her husband then created index cards.
He put them in her pockets every morning.  They had answers to her most
frequent questions written on them.  She grew accustomed to consulting this
card, and it saved him alot of headaches.  It may be early for a solution
like this, but you get the idea.  Perhaps there is something practical you
can do to put a little responsibility back into your partner's hands.  He
may appreciate it greatly, since the recent diagnosis may have him feeling
unable to control anything.
Anyhow - just a suggestion.
Best of luck,
Kate

> This is my first day reading the group.  Hopefully, I will be able to
> establish some contacts and learn about the problems specific to
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> Larry
Evelyn Ruut - 01 Jul 2006 16:19 GMT
> Hi Larry
> These are interesting questions I ask myself every time I'm with my
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> Best of luck,
> Kate

Dear Kate,

We tried writing things down on notes, but my mother in law couldn't relate
to the notes anymore, and that happened relatively soon.    We tried the
little pill boxes with the days and times on them too, but she no longer
understood one day from the other.

Reminding her that she has asked you the same question for the umpteenth
time will only make her angry, because she will perceive your irritation
with her.    What we did with my mother in law, was to patiently and kindly
answer the same question over and over again even if we were ready to
scream.   (and many times we certainly did scream at her........ but we soon
regretted it, because she couldn't understand why we were being so nasty to
her).

She really couldn't remember that she couldn't remember.

What might work with your mom, is to remember the old adage about catching
more flies with honey than with vinegar.    If you are super sweet and
loving to her, telling her that you are really worried about her, and that
she might possibly need a certain vitamin, or that there are drugs which can
help her memory, and that if her memory problems are something which can be
helped, and that it makes sense to catch it now, maybe that tactic might be
better received.

She is probably afraid.   Afraid of being diagnosed, of having a label
slapped on her, of what it all means........  I know I probably would be
too.    My mother in law was also, but when we took the situation in hand,
helping her and telling her that we were on her side, and engendering her
trust, she did eventually go along with us.   She might be more inclined to
share her fears with you if she perceives that you come to her with these
suggestions out of love and concern.

My father, on the other hand, is the kind of guy whom, if you are sweet to
him he mistrusts you even more.

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Best Regards,

Evelyn
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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 02 Jul 2006 17:51 GMT
Hi Larry, I know your partner is concerned with how well he can
maintain his current function - but the answer is, other than take his
meds and take good physical care of himself, there is nothing either of
you can do. He will go down hill, that is inevitable, and there are no
mental gymnastics that will stop that process - and there is nothing
anyone can do to predict the rate of decline.

You have the diagnosis, and what you've got is right now, this minute.
My inclination is to not make each other crazy tracking lapses, but
take each day as it comes and try to squeeze as much joy out of it as
possible. Use today - take those vacations you've always wanted, visit
friends and family, try out new activities you've been putting off,
label the photos, see those movies, whatever. He has a terminal illness
that will destroy his mind before it takes his life, so the time is
short.

If you are continually pointing out deficits, correcting him etc. all
you do is constantly remind him he has this terrible illness - and for
what? Better to focus on the ability than the disability. Correcting
him is not going to change the outcome, slow the decline, or make him
any happier - it just rubs his nose in something he can't control. Make
this about having the happiest last years possible.

In short order, despite the fact he is high functioning now, he will go
through some humiliations you can't protect him from. He will start to
decline, he will be aware of it in the first stages, the will have to
stop driving, he will have to stop working, he will begin to lose his
independence.

Part of the brain damage that goes with this disease is merciful - he
will not always be aware of his deficits, or have insight into his
problems. Protect his dignity. As the person with the intact brain, you
will have to watch and change how you manage things as his deficits
arise. He may never see what is devastatingly obvious to you. Find face
saving ways to move in and support him doing the things he needs help
with - but try to do it in a soft way, so he isn't more embarrassed and
hurt by what he can no longer do. Have your back up plans in place long
before you need them. Think through what you can do when he has to stop
working, can't be left alone, etc. Check out resources, services and
facilities long before you even have a hint of needing them, so that
when that day comes you are ready to go with Plan B, and aren't in a
scramble at a time of crisis. See a lawyer and a financial planner and
get everything in place so you are ready for the worst.

I'd also get ready with supports and help for you, since this will be a
grinder for you as caregiver and partner. Right now, it probably has
not completely come home to you what this means - it certainly took us
a long time to get our heads around AD with our loved one.

Incidentally, early in the game, my mother in law lost her ability to
understand written text. She could read perfectly well, but
understanding what she read was another matter. You can demonstrate
this easily with someone in mid AD by giving them written instructions
and asking them to read them out loud, and then do what the
instructions say (i.e. pick up the book and put it on the table and put
on the red hat). She could read the text perfectly well, but not follow
the directions - reading and reading comprehension are two different
things. This meant she could not follow written notes and prompts - and
this happened fairly early in the game.

She also lost her understanding of sequences early in the disease, so
she couldn't understand that 1 was before 2, or that 4 was after 3, or
that January was before May, or Monday before Wednesday. This didn't
just translate into problems handling money or dealing with finances,
but problems understanding TV listings, reading a calendar,
understanding time etc. Just something to be aware of, since these
things happened when she appeared very high functioning - had you met
her, you'd have had no idea that she couldn't understand that 3 pm was
before 5 pm, or calculate that how much change she should get from a
$20 bill on a $5 purchase.

Mary G.
Char - 04 Jul 2006 23:20 GMT
Dear Larry,

Mary has said it all.  My husband was diagnosed with EOAD 5 years ago
although many here & I think it could well be something else because it
has presented so differently.  Now though, many AD symptoms do fit,
especially sequencing.  When he decided to help me by doing laundry, I
had to label the bottles corner for bleach, center for fabric softener,
& clothes for detergent.  I first wrote directions on a piece of paper,
but he told me he didn't understand that.  One night after I had gone to
bed, he decided to run the dishwasher--He couldn't remember where I had
moved the detergent(I changed it after painting kitchen cabinets) so he
used regular dish soap.  Needless to say, he realized the mistake when
suds started coming out of the machine.  lol

I don't correct John; if he says I didn't tell him something, then I
didn't tell him.  No big deal to me.  When something happens like the
dishwasher incident, I shrug it off & we both have a good laugh.

John is very aware of his illness.  We have gone through different
stages though with the EOAD.  One stage we are still going through is
dealing with his frustration & agitation because he is aware of what he
should be able to do but can't.

Finally, John has stayed active with his computer & does crossword
puzzles daily.  It takes him longer, but he still does them.  Encourage
your partner to stay active with his hobbies.  By the way, the computer
also helps him keep track of the date & current events.

Good luck,

Char

> Hi Larry, I know your partner is concerned with how well he can
> maintain his current function - but the answer is, other than take his
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> Mary G.
Alan Meyer - 02 Jul 2006 23:37 GMT
Larry,

Your partner might wish to look into some of the clinical trials for
new Alzheimer's drugs.  There are 115 trials listed at:

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/search?term=alzheimer%27s+disease

Not all of these are treatment trials.

The chance of getting benefit from an investigational drug is not
high.  Most of them do not pan out, or provide only a small and
temporary benefit.  Some may have negative side effects.  In some
studies, the patient may get a placebo instead of the real drug -
though the real drug may be offered to the placebo patients when
the study is done, if it turned out to be beneficial.

Still, participating in a trial offers a small chance at early access
to something that might turn out to be a breakthrough.  It also
enables the patient to contribute to research on the disease.  Even
patients who do not benefit themselves may be able to benefit
others by participating in trials.

Finally, participation in a clinical trial often provides good access
to the very best specialists who can provide the best available
advice and information to patients.

Good luck.

   Alan
 
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