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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / March 2006insulin like`growth factors
insulin like`growth factors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a recent study suggests these may be helpful in treating the disease. Is there any way to obtain these for patients. Are they taken by injection only. > insulin like`growth factors > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > a recent study suggests these may be helpful in treating the disease. Is > there any way to obtain these for patients. Are they taken by injection > only. If you took every chemical that a 'study' indicated would be useful in Az, you'd probably be unable to physically do it, not enough time in the day, and the side effects would probably kill you within the day anyway. A single study does not a cure make. There are even disagreements about drugs that do have an effect, whether they are worthwhile, let alone one off studies that usually apply to something entirely unlike an actual proven preventative/cure/treatment, such as; 1 cells in a test tube 2 mice 3 a study of 15 people over 6 months showing a 3% higher than chance that people got 0.1% better. 4 something unadjusted for all contributory factors ...for example, people in country x have less than Az than people in country y, people in country x eat more (or less) of substance z, "therefore" substance z cures/prevents/causes Az. and finally 5. One-off studies that show an effect that is never replicated again by any other study, for various reasons including pure chance, or a poor study.  SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com Can some one answer my question without the "lessons on research" That's something I know better than you. >> insulin like`growth factors >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > any other study, for various reasons including pure chance, or a poor > study. > Can some one answer my question without the "lessons on research" That's > something I know better than you. Are you psychic and know what my research background is? No you cant be, or you'd know this was a very poor choice of group to be posing your question to. SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > Can some one answer my question without the "lessons on research" That's > something I know better than you. if you're such a know-it-all, then you should be able to find this miracle substance on your own, or make it yourself. this is group for caregivers, not for miracle cure seekers. >insulin like`growth factors >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >a recent study suggests these may be helpful in treating the disease. Is >there any way to obtain these for patients. Are they taken by injection >only. You can get sublingual spray of IGF-1 at most health food stores. Additionally, in Canada and in New Zeland, velvet antler is available in preparations that contain high concentrations of HGF-1. Also, Green Lipped Mussel extract is available from New Zeland in some preparations that also contain IGF-1. Among the nutrients in Green Lipped Mussel extract are many vitamins, especially the B complex group and a broad range of minerals and trace elements. It is also rich in omega 3 fatty acids, protein, provides essential amino acids and is an excellent, well balanced nutritious dietary supplement. Green Lipped Mussel extract is useful in alleviating inflammations and arthritis... I hope the foregoing is helpful. Will I dunno about insulin like growth factors, but insulin itself doesn't survive passing through the gut, which is why diabetics can't take insulin orally. Mary G. > I dunno about insulin like growth factors, but insulin itself doesn't > survive passing through the gut, which is why diabetics can't take > insulin orally. > > Mary G. That's why it is available in a sublingual spray..... so that it can be absorbed directly into the bloodstream. I tried it for a while in connection with my diabetes, but it did nothing for me that I could tell, so I stopped using it. Will jgiustino <jgiustino@shaw.ca> is alleged to have said: > insulin like`growth factors > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > a recent study suggests these may be helpful in treating the disease. Is > there any way to obtain these for patients. Are they taken by injection > only. Here's one citation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=16444902&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum NIH is the National Institutes of Health, a US government agency. I found this by Googling the words IGF-1 alzheimer's after the term IGF-1 turned up in a later post in this thread. Repeating the search at the site above lists 69 citations. The new inhaled insulin might help here, since the abstract talks about a "small but consistent" memory improvement with intranasal insulin. I don't know if it's available in Canada yet. SignatureJo Ann Malina, make spamthis best to find my address Inhaled insulin is ready to go, but isn't out YET. It won't be available until midyear at the earliest. http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_treatments/insulin_inhaled.php And then there is the question about whether any doctor would prescribe inhaled OR injectable insulin for anyone who wasn't actually an insulin dependent diabetic, or if inhaled insulin actually makes it into the brain vs. the form of insulin the brain itself makes (i.e. the issue of the brain/blood barrier). I'm not saying there isn't hope, but I don't think we're quite there yet. Insulin is not exactly benign in the hands of someone who doesn't know exactly what they are doing. I doubt it would be hugely easy to administer a puffer to someone in mid AD - I've certainly had the experience of trying to get younger kids to use one for asthma, and its a frustrating experience - and at least then, you aren't faced with a little extra dose (due to fassing around trying to get them to breath in at the right) putting someone into low blood sugar. Mary > I doubt it would be hugely easy to > administer a puffer to someone in mid AD and some folks never get the idea that you have to squeeze it when you breath in. my mother was one of those, and as her memory got worse, it became less possible, even with assistance. |
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