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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / March 2006We're back!
Hi Everybody! I am back from my vacation as of last evening. Too many posts to catch up on, so I am starting anew! I had a great time visiting my daughter in Texas for the last couple of weeks. My grandsons are driving now, and will be graduating in a couple of months! They grow up so fast. We are both exhausted since there was a travel mixup and we ended up adding another day to our vacation which wasn't intended. Half of the time the weather in Austin was gorgeous, but the last few days there, were rainy, gray and chilly. Feels good to be home! The dog missed us being in the kennel, and the cats are acting weird too, since we got back last night.  SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') Welcome back! Things went WAY quiet here right after you left -- I almost asked if everyone had gone with you! Songbird > Welcome back! > > Things went WAY quiet here right after you left -- I almost asked if > everyone had gone with you! > > Songbird Hi S, Good to be back. Actually I think things went way quiet here before I left too :-) Strange isn't it? Sometimes there are just so few posts. I had a great time, but the traveling around airports is horrible. They make you run huge distances to make your connecting flights. My feet just can't handle all the walking! We actually missed one flight (their fault) so they put us up overnight in a hotel and bought us dinner. We barely slept a wink. Took us two whole days to get home from Austin! Hope all of you are doing well. I had a nice phone call or two while I was away from an alt.support.alzheimers online friend too, which was just SO nice! SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') Welcome back Evelyn. Glad you had a great time. > Welcome back Evelyn. Glad you had a great time. Thanks Nati, I missed all of you guys! SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > Hi Everybody! > > I am back from my vacation as of last evening. Hi Evelyn....Glad to see you made it back. Traveling can be an adventure good and bad-- hope your adventures were good. Just a note to let you know how much your advice helped me with my mother's showers. She can still do the bathing but I've started turning on the shower and adjusting the temp. for her. You advised that I start her shower in the morning and you were so right. One day I couldn't get there ( to her assisted living) until afternoon and she really put up a hassle about it. In the morning is so much easier. I've decided if I can't get there in the morning that I'll just wait for another day. She really does pretty good. If she balks, I just gently remind her that she has a brain disease that makes her forget that she needs a shower. It works every time. On some level she knows things aren't like they should be. ......June >> Hi Everybody! >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > works every time. On some level she knows things aren't like they should > be. ......June Oh June, I am so happy it worked for you too. It was the only way for us to get Ida to bathe. We also had some success at night when she was getting undressed for bed. Once the clothes were off, getting a bath seemed natural to her, either evening or morning. Also by my supervising the water temperature adjustment, it just made one more scary decision less difficult for her. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > You advised that I start her > shower in the morning and you were so right. One day I couldn't get there > ( to her assisted living) until afternoon and she really put up a hassle > about it. In the morning is so much easier. I've decided if I can't get > there in the morning that I'll just wait for another day. can't the assisted living folks help her shower? >> You advised that I start her >> shower in the morning and you were so right. One day I couldn't get [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > can't the assisted living folks help her shower? She is in independent assisted living. She can take her own shower but has to be motivated to do so. She has her hair washed and set once a week for $9. They charge $20 a shower to help her. Like I've said before, her dementia is very different than others mentioned here. She can no longer cook and do other little things but she can still use the phone. 66 calls last month, some to me and some to my brother but mostly to time and temperature. Needless to say I made the right move to take her off measured service and put her on unlimited calling. Since the progress of her dementia is so slow we're trying to save her money so she can stay in the assisted living as long as she's able. She seems happy there and my brother and I visit often.......June PS She waiting for spring so she can have flowers on her patio. She has a nice pond with geese just outside her patio door and enjoys it. Come to think of it, I'm ready for spring too! June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: > She is in independent assisted living. She can take her own shower but has > to be motivated to do so. She has her hair washed and set once a week for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > temperature. Needless to say I made the right move to take her off measured > service and put her on unlimited calling. I wonder if your mother is obsessed about the time, or she just wants to hear a human voice. My mother obsessed about clocks and time and dates for a while. It would be very important that she knew what day of the week it was, what the date was, what time it was. The clock in the living room isn't very precise, the numbers are somewhat unevenly spaced. That bothered her and she would bring her little battery- operated alarm clock from the bedroom or her wind-up travel alarm and spend a lot of time fussing over setting them, then put them next to her seat where she could easily see them. SignatureJo Ann Malina, make spamthis best to find my address Backward, turn backward, O Time, in your flight. Make me a child again, just for to-night! -- Elizabeth Chase Akers > June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > spend a lot of time fussing over setting them, then put them next to > her seat where she could easily see them. You just brought an interesting memory to mind..... Ida was also obsessed with the time and date when she first began to get ill. She called her one girlfriend a dozen times a day to ask the time and date. That was only in the beginning, though. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') my MIL went thru a date & time obsession as well .... fussed over her watch, clocks, calendars, asked constantly, etc.... STILL asks what day it is every once in a while ... as if it means anything to her, which it doesn't, really >> June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > one girlfriend a dozen times a day to ask the time and date. That was > only in the beginning, though. > June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > to hear a human voice. My mother obsessed about clocks and time and > dates for a while. Being "obsessed" almost certainly isn't the right way to view it. Imagine your memory was shot to hell, so you didnt know where you were, what date it was, even what year it was. Finding out the date and time would be a logical thing to do. Doing it 10 minutes later doesnt mean you're obsessed, it means that you forgot you asked the time 10 minutes ago, or even if you remembered that you checked, you forgot what it was. Thats *very* different from someone who knows what the time is, but asks again anyway. Thats obsessed, and I dont think that label applies to Az. SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com >> June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > *very* different from someone who knows what the time is, but asks again > anyway. Thats obsessed, and I dont think that label applies to Az. You are right, of course. It just seems obsessive to us, thinking with a functioning memory. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > Being "obsessed" almost certainly isn't the right way to view it. Imagine > your memory was shot to hell, so you didnt know where you were, what date [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > *very* different from someone who knows what the time is, but asks again > anyway. Thats obsessed, and I dont think that label applies to Az. I think you're correct, Tumbleweed. Mom has a calendar that she writes down doctor apps. , dentist apps and so forth. She calls time and temp. to get the date as much as anything. One day she called me about a dentist app. she had that afternoon. Wanted to know who was going to take her and I told her that my brother would be there after lunch to pick her up. I think she needs to know what day it is when she consults her calendar but then she forgets again and again........ June >I think you're correct, Tumbleweed. Mom has a calendar that she writes >down doctor apps. , dentist apps and so forth. She calls time and temp. to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >think she needs to know what day it is when she consults her calendar but >then she forgets again and again........ June I'm, mostly, not worried about the time but, when I do need to know it for something, I never, mostly, can remember what it is. Mostly, it's when I need to know the day of week or date. anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. Anthony,can someone make you up a daily laminated day, date. month posters we do this at work they are large and we have only done this at work recently in the dining room it is amazing how many of our residents have noticed them here and yet they have always been put up in the lounge room.In all honesty I find it rather handy myself >>I think you're correct, Tumbleweed. Mom has a calendar that she writes >>down doctor apps. , dentist apps and so forth. She calls time and temp. to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>think she needs to know what day it is when she consults her calendar but >>then she forgets again and again........ June The calendar is stuck to the side of the fridge. Doesn't help when I've gone out and haven't copied the day anywhere..... "Fail-safe systems fail by failing to fail-safe..... Dat's life!! anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. Tumbleweed <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> is alleged to have said: >> June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > someone who knows what the time is, but asks again anyway. Thats obsessed, > and I dont think that label applies to Az. It fits the dictionary definition of obession well enough. I think the emotion that accompanies this need to know puts it in that category. But I'm not judging or putting anyone down. It must be terrifying to lose one's moorings the way Alzheimer's causes. After all, what do you ask someone who's been hit in the head to see if they are confused -- "What's the date?" and "Who's the President?" As for the latter, I've been trying to forget that, but am reminded with each new scandal. SignatureJo Ann Malina, make spamthis best to find my address Hardly a man wakes a half hour's nap after dinner, but when he wakes he holds up his head and asks, "What's the news?" as if the rest of mankind had stood his sentinels...After a night's sleep the news is as indispensable as the breakfast. -- Henry David Thoreau > Tumbleweed <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> is alleged to have said: >>> June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > the latter, I've been trying to forget that, but am reminded with each > new scandal. you got that right! This latest one is a real shocker. The Foxes will be managing the henhouse! SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >> Tumbleweed <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> is alleged to have said: >>>> June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > you got that right! This latest one is a real shocker. > The Foxes will be managing the henhouse! ??????????? SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com >>> Tumbleweed <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> is alleged to have said: >>>>> June <ljbart@hotmail.com> is alleged to have said: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > ??????????? Sorry,.... for those not in the USA, what we are referring to is our president who is allowing the United Arab Emirates to buy into the management of our ports. So much for the theory that "9/11 changed everything". Every day seems to bring some new scandal with this administration. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >Sorry,.... for those not in the USA, what we are referring to is our >president who is allowing the United Arab Emirates to buy into the >management of our ports. So much for the theory that "9/11 changed >everything". Every day seems to bring some new scandal with this >administration. Sounds like a good time to leave for the UAE.... anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. > Sorry,.... for those not in the USA, what we are referring to is our > president who is allowing the United Arab Emirates to buy into the > management of our ports. So much for the theory that "9/11 changed > everything". Every day seems to bring some new scandal with this > administration. I always find it amusing that such a supposedly capitalist free market economy is so protectionist. And what has 911 got to do with port management anyway? I think you'll find that OBL would like to bring about the downfall of states like the UAE as much, indeed more, than he would the USofA. SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com > I always find it amusing that such a supposedly capitalist free market > economy is so protectionist. And what has 911 got to do with port management > anyway? Port security. No one with any sense thinks that terrorists will use the method they did on 9/11, but think how much explosives will fit in a shipping container. IMHO, ***NONE*** of our ports should be managed or operated by ANY foreign country; they should be run by state, local, or Federal government agencies. Period. But this port thing just shows again that the smirking chimp purporting to be president doesn't really care about actual security or we would be inspecting cargo containers, which is not being done. He ought to be impeached for his warrantless wiretaps, anyway. That's a hell of a lot more serious than lying about sex in the Oval Office! >> I always find it amusing that such a supposedly capitalist free market >> economy is so protectionist. And what has 911 got to do with port [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > should be run by state, local, or Federal government agencies. > Period. Ah, I thought that port security was to be run seperate from financial mgmt of the ports? SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com >>> I always find it amusing that such a supposedly capitalist free market >>> economy is so protectionist. And what has 911 got to do with port [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Ah, I thought that port security was to be run seperate from financial > mgmt of the ports? I wouldn't believe for a minute that "management" couldn't have significant influence over thwarting "security" if it suited them. It's a bad deal and should not go through. I think it is despicable and so do most Americans, even those in the chimp's own party. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >>>> I always find it amusing that such a supposedly capitalist free market >>>> economy is so protectionist. And what has 911 got to do with port [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > It's a bad deal and should not go through. I think it is despicable and > so do most Americans, even those in the chimp's own party. OK, can alll other countries kick US companies out of control of every business they deem important? IIRC there are US companies running some british ports for example, no doubt they run other countries ports as well? Then there is the countrol of power plants, very strategic, lots of US companies run those, then water, I think we have some US cos running them as well, then there are the US companies running numerous strategic businesses in Iraq, ............. where would you stop? SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com >>>>> I always find it amusing that such a supposedly capitalist free market >>>>> economy is so protectionist. And what has 911 got to do with port [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > them as well, then there are the US companies running numerous strategic > businesses in Iraq, ............. where would you stop? Easy. Just with the Arabs. Otherwise I wouldn't care about it a bit. I know all muslims aren't bad, but too many of them hate us and they probably have no good reason for wanting to run any business in the US. Especially a port of entry. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >OK, can alll other countries kick US companies out of control of every >business they deem important? IIRC there are US companies running some [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >well, then there are the US companies running numerous strategic businesses >in Iraq, ............. where would you stop? Thanks for your sensible post, well done! As Tumbleweed notes, there are US companies all around the world. Unless we share the world, we will have and will be nothing. anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. > Ah, I thought that port security was to be run seperate from financial mgmt > of the ports? In theory, yes, because the theory is that the Coast Guard will be responsible for security. In practice, the Coast Guard has time to search approximately 5% of the containers coming into the US in all ports on a daily basis. They concentrate most heavily on Miami and the West Coast. The former because of drugs; the latter because of the numbers of undocumented aliens who are being smuggled into the US from SE Asia in shipping containers. The CG finding them is often their only hope of survival (many die during the voyage). That leaves the security of the other 95% of the shipping containers to be managed by whomever is responsible for the management of port operations. It may be that there really isn't anything wrong or hinky behind the deal. However, it waddles, quacks and smells like a duck. I'd be hard pressed to call it a chicken! :) Beth SignatureDon't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain Apparently, the Coast Guard originally said that it can't make any guarantees on security. --------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=azFjsr55WUS4&refer=us Coast Guard Said It Couldn't Assess Risk in Port Deal Feb. 27 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Coast Guard said questions about foreign influence, employees and operations made it impossible to assess the threat posed by a state-owned Dubai company's purchase of a firm that manages some terminal operations at six U.S. seaports. ``There are many intelligence gaps concerning the potential'' for assets owned by DP World or London-based Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co. ``to support terrorist operations,'' says a December intelligence assessment by the Coast Guard that was released at a hearing today of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. --------------------------------------------------------- Then they said all of their concerns were addressed but wouldn't publicly discuss how because it was classified. What caught my attention was an article I saw that said that the company's records would not be required to be retained on US soil and there was no minimum retention period required. But maybe I just have a suspicious nature. What has my hackles up is the stealth with which the deal moved. I don't have anything against Middle Eastern companies but it wan't Brits that crashed into our towers on 9/11. It at least merits a closer look and the same basic requirements we would impose on any other country. Karen Karen > I >don't have anything against Middle Eastern companies but it wan't Brits that >crashed into our towers on 9/11. It at least merits a closer look and the >same basic requirements we would impose on any other country. But was it not the Brits that were responsible for a whole lot of other chicanery in the Middle East way some time ago? anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. >> I >>don't have anything against Middle Eastern companies but it wan't Brits [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But was it not the Brits that were responsible for a whole lot of other > chicanery in the Middle East way some time ago? I think we were responsible for most of it, including the creation of Iraq :-( SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com >>> I >>>don't have anything against Middle Eastern companies but it wan't Brits [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I think we were responsible for most of it, including the creation of Iraq > :-( Sad to say, we Americans have picked up on your legacy :-( SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >>>> I >>>>don't have anything against Middle Eastern companies but it wan't Brits [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sad to say, we Americans have picked up on your legacy :-( Evelyn, Did you feel unsafe the last time you were in UAE??? If so you must have landed in the wrong country - the security at the airport in Dubai is TOUGH - yes shouting - it so annoys me when people jump to conclusions - and I suspect that you have a political axe to grind and "Bush" stole the election in 2000 - get over it. Did you read about Gore's speech in Saudi Arabia last week - he needs new meds. The fact that the management of many of our ports is run by outside companies may well be a problem - but to pick out the UAE vs. the Chinese (that were allowed to but port operations under - I am sure your biggest hero ever - Clinton) is a dangerous assumption. Perhaps no ports should be managed by other countries - that is one question - the problem is that many are now - many allowed by the Democrats. So figure it out from here - throw them all out? Not at once - commerce would stop - you might miss your nice life style. A couple at a time - they are not stupid - that would have the same effect. AND - this is what really makes me mad - you have all kinds of opinions on the UAE - I know you have never been there because you would know better - the country is the gateway to the Arab world - it has tremendous shipping facilities - it is at least 20 times cleaner, richer and safer then LA (maybe also NY - but I have only been in the airport there and so would not know enough to give a firm opinion on this - unlike you who knows all about UAE) These people are wealthy, sophisticated and do not want their lives turned upside down by Islamic Extremists. Go back and read that sentence again - they have a ggo dthing going there and want to keep it. Every time I fly through Dubai I rather dread it - they do the most through search of luggage of any airport I have been through. The search in Kabul was easier - course there it was a women - men do not search women - and she was really pretty nice. I am just really pissed at all the garbage going on over this - UAE is safer in in our ports then China and they do one hell of a great job of running their own country- you would probably see the cost of goods brought in by ship drop because they are so efficient. Maybe none of them should be there and that may have to change - but we are in too deep now to have it happen over night. And Please - get over it - Bush is not running again- repeat after me - Bush is not running again. Repeat as needed until it is understood that - he is not running again so taking every chance to whine and moan and bad mouth him is counter productive - so go educate yourself - read the Koran lately? I have - pretty scary - convert or die - that is the choice - the only choice - so don't believe me - just get your head scarf out - and trim you finger nails - if you are caught wearing finger nail polish by the Taliban they cut a finger off. True. Linda I am still pissed - I just feel like I am beating my head against a wall - the hate Bush group will be the down fall of us all. ---snip--- so go educate yourself - read the Koran lately? I > have - pretty scary - convert or die - that is the choice - the only > choice - so don't believe me - just get your head scarf out - and trim you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I am still pissed - I just feel like I am beating my head against a wall - > the hate Bush group will be the down fall of us all. Just out of curiosity, ever compare the Koran with the Old Testament of the King James Version Christian Bible? Slaughter the whole city down to the infants and live stock? Send a bear to kill the children that made fun of the prophet's bald head? The Koran, as a religious text, stands about where most of the others seem to. Either you're one of them or you're a enemy to be slaughtered. However, just like Christians in most parts of the world have learned how to get along with those of different faiths, there are modern Muslims that approach life the same way -- I've known some for decades. And the anti-Muslim bigotry bugs me because our own history ain't spotless. Tim McVeigh was home grown -- not all terrorists have dark hair and a swarthy complexion. My objection is #1- the way the issue slipped through is either by stealth or by an automated process in a issue that shouldn't be automatic #2 - this _is_ a country that was found to be a source of money laundering for funding the terrorists that creamed our WTCs #3 - the fact that a couple of the terrorists were from there should say something except that the rest were from Saudi Arabia and we consider that country to be one of our best buds and #4 - follow the paper trail, except there won't be one because the deal was set up so they don't have to retain records on US port activity in the US and they don't have a minimum retention period. That doesn't sound like that big of a deal until you pair it off with the money laundering issue and it's not the standard requirement we make of other countries in similar deals. Frankly, if the IRA had pulled off 9/11, I'd have the same objections. If they can clear up the paper trail issue, get the security issues cleared up and give the deal due diligence instead of a rubber stamp, it will probably be as safe as it gets (which is not 100%). But I find the stealth and overriding the concerns instead of dealing with them quite disturbing. >Just out of curiosity, ever compare the Koran with the Old Testament of the >King James Version Christian Bible? Slaughter the whole city down to the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >be as safe as it gets (which is not 100%). But I find the stealth and >overriding the concerns instead of dealing with them quite disturbing. Good post. Thanks. anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. > ---snip--- so go educate yourself - read the Koran lately? I >> have - pretty scary - convert or die - that is the choice - the only [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > stealth and overriding the concerns instead of dealing with them quite > disturbing. Well said, Karen. I didn't think linda's rant was worth replying to. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:41:30 -0700 in alt.support.alzheimers, "linda_no_ spam_ @comcast.net" <Linda_no_spam_@comcast.net> wrote: > Perhaps no ports should be > managed by other countries - that is one question - the problem is that many > are now - many allowed by the Democrats. well, i didn't vote to do so, and never ever would. our ports should only be run by our state or local governments. > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:41:30 -0700 in alt.support.alzheimers, > "linda_no_ spam_ @comcast.net" <Linda_no_spam_@comcast.net> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > well, i didn't vote to do so, and never ever would. our ports > should only be run by our state or local governments. Agreed. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >> well, i didn't vote to do so, and never ever would. our ports >> should only be run by our state or local governments. > > Agreed. In a post-9/11 environment, it sounds logical but I don't see how they could ever get that particular genie back in the bottle. And if you allow it for one foreign country... Best thing they can do is implement security procedures and make the companies in charge keep good records. Actually, that's seems like the best course when it's a domestic company in charge, too. A lot of people will look the other way for enough money. Karen >>> well, i didn't vote to do so, and never ever would. our ports >>> should only be run by our state or local governments. Lets not forget that the 911 hijackers were all trained, AFAIK, by US private companies. Are you proposing that US flight training should from now on be supplied only by the US government? Timothy McVeigh, AFAIK, made his bombs from fertiliser and other supplies manufactured by US companies. Are you proposing that fertilisers should only be supplied by the US government*? Port ownership isnt the issue, its the funding of customs or whoever does the inspections and changing port ownership will make not one jot of difference. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that if port ownershpi is changed so that it *is* moved to only US government, then all the proponents of this will breathe a sigh of relief that 'hey now our port security issue is solved'. Well it wont be. If the problem is that only 5% of goods are inspected, then I suggest paying the necessary taxes to get 100% inspected is the issue, not messing about with the financial structure of companies that are only no more connected to security than 'Florida 747 training services' (or whoever) was. SignatureTumbleweed *Hmmmm, some may say that this is their only product! On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:41:30 -0700 in alt.support.alzheimers, "linda_no_ spam_ @comcast.net" <Linda_no_spam_@comcast.net> wrote: > so go educate yourself - read the Koran lately? I > have - pretty scary - convert or die - that is the choice - the only > choice - so don't believe me - just get your head scarf out - and trim you > finger nails - if you are caught wearing finger nail polish by the Taliban > they cut a finger off. True. the koran certainly does NOT say that, nor does it require christians or jews to convert, just pagans. > Linda > I am still pissed - I just feel like I am beating my head against a wall - > the hate Bush group will be the down fall of us all. i don't hate bush, i hate what he's doing, trashing our constitution even worse than senator mccarthy and the 1950s red baiters. the man should be impeached, along with cheney, rumsfeld, and gonzales: for conducting illegal searches without warrants in direct violation of the constitution, for detaining citizens without a hearing or trial, and for allowing the torture of prisoners. our constitution does not give the president the power to suspend it because of a terrorist attack, and we can't stay free by becoming a fascist police state. even more, i hate the way he took away the surplus that we painfully returned to after paying off reagan's deficits. it will take even longer to recover this time. in the meantime poor seniors deteriorate and die sooner because they can't get their meds. sorry, i'm not getting over it until they impeach the bastard. into the killfile with you, for sure. > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:41:30 -0700 in alt.support.alzheimers, > "linda_no_ spam_ @comcast.net" <Linda_no_spam_@comcast.net> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > into the killfile with you, for sure. Ok, so now we're a political newsgroup. I remember the protests from the sixties over the Viet Nam war but the hate that divides our country over this war seems to be taking a new low. A 22 year old soldier in our town died in Iraq last week. His family's house has been vandalized, they have received prank phone calls saying that they're glad the son is dead and this protest group is planning to picket the funeral. The Indiana general assembly is in the process of passing a bill to prevent pickets from protesting within 500 yards of a funeral. It should be passed and into law by next Monday---the day of the funeral. Meanwhile the local police have a 24 hour patrol outside their home. I'm not fond of Bush but since I live in Indiana, it does no good to vote democrat in a National election. The last time Indiana's electoral votes went democratic was in 1964. Now if Evan Bayh ( a Hoosier senator) runs for President that might change. Just note about the 2000 election. I called my mother ( has had dementia since 1993) in Florida on election day to see if she voted. She said yes and when I asked who she voted for she couldn't remember. She did say she voted republican which she always has. Of course her county was one that had the hanging chads fiasco. Makes you wonder. Of course if you ask her the president is, she will say Clinton if she can remember at all. He was the president in '93. On that note, thank goodness she had one phone that was push button or I'd have to find a dial phone for her to use now. And so it goes.....June ----snip---- > I'm not fond of Bush but since I live in Indiana, it does no good to vote > democrat in a National election. The last time Indiana's electoral votes > went democratic was in 1964. Now if Evan Bayh ( a Hoosier senator) runs > for President that might change. IMO, it would be nice if they would get around to scrapping the Electoral College and require an actual majority of the vote to declare the winner. IIRC, it was supposed to give the smaller states more power in an election, but it doesn't work that way. Trying to explain how our "elected" Prez could have lost the popular vote but still be placed in office sounded bizarre to people from other countries. For that matter, it sounds bizzare to me. As for picketing funerals of soldiers, I read about that recently (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/13970655.htm) and couldn't believe anyone would be so stupid. Actually other adjectives came to mind, but I'm trying to be polite so I'll stick with stupid. Sheesh! Karen >----snip---- >> I'm not fond of Bush but since I live in Indiana, it does no good to vote [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >bizarre to people from other countries. For that matter, it sounds bizzare >to me. I'm sure most reading here would be upset if I posted, here, many messages about the killing of animals in zoos. For those who have not noticed, we are posting to alt.support.alzheimers, a group read by many people not domiciled in the U.S.A anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:41:30 -0700 in alt.support.alzheimers, > "linda_no_ spam_ @comcast.net" <Linda_no_spam_@comcast.net> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > into the killfile with you, for sure. What he said! For sure..... SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >> Ah, I thought that port security was to be run seperate from financial mgmt >> of the ports? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >deal. However, it waddles, quacks and smells like a duck. I'd be hard >pressed to call it a chicken! :) Well, I guess that tells us a bit about how the Red Indians (not sure if that's the most appropriate term) felt about it..... anthony shipley Run away with me; I can make you unhappy. > > you got that right! This latest one is a real shocker. > > The Foxes will be managing the henhouse! > > ??????????? I think Evelyn was referring to the Arab company running our ports... >Hi Everybody! > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Feels good to be home! The dog missed us being in the kennel, and the cats >are acting weird too, since we got back last night. Again, dear Evie, as you heard me say to you on another group. I am so glad you are back safely. I do hope you had a joyous time with your daughter and grandchildren. I very much know what that is like! Much love to you, Will >>Hi Everybody! >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Will Hi Will, It was just wonderful. Thank you so much, Will. You are a treasure. Glad to see you posting here. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') Welcome back Evelyn,I am about to go away tomorrow cant wait it has ben a long time since I had a holiday by the beach Michelle Australia > Welcome back Evelyn,I am about to go away tomorrow cant wait it has ben > a long time since I had a holiday by the beach > Michelle > Australia Michelle, I hope you have a wonderful time! Rest up and refuse to think about anything serious for even a minute. One thing caregivers need more than anything is a little time away! SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') |
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