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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / February 2006

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Anthony Shipley - 23 Feb 2006 06:32 GMT
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060206232300.htm

How does this fit in with the assertion that A.D. is caused mostly by statins?

Alzheimer's Found To Be Mostly Genetic: Largest Twin Study Ever Undertaken
Confirms Highest Estimates Of Genetic Risk

Alzheimer disease has a genetic cause in up to 80 percent of cases, according to
a University of Southern California- led study of nearly 12,000 twin pairs.

The study appears in the February 2006 issue of Archives of General Psychiatry,
a journal of the American Medical Association.

Margaret Gatz, professor of psychology in the USC College of Letters, Arts, and
Sciences, led an international team of researchers from Göteborg University,
Jönköping University and Karolinska Institutet in Sweden, as well as from USC,
the University of California at Riverside and the University of South Florida.

Past estimates of Alzheimer's risk varied widely, with the highest numbers
sometimes greeted with skepticism.

"Our finding confirms the higher estimates that have been suggested previously.
The important thing is that no one has had this large a sample before," Gatz
said, adding the size was 10 times that of any previous study.

The study raises doubts about the widely held view that Alzheimer's has two
forms: the "familial," with genetic roots, and the "sporadic," with
environmental causes.

"In essence what we're doing is taking the folks who would have formerly been
called sporadic, and testing how important genetic influences are ... and we're
finding genetic influences are tremendously important," Gatz said. "It does
suggest that there is an underlying genetic basis."

Gatz warned, "This doesn't mean that environment is not important. Environment
may be relevant not only for whether but also for when one gets the disease.
Also, you can't go from these results to any one individual."

Even identical twins, who share all their genes, differ in their vulnerability.
The study found only a 45 percent concordance rate for identical male pairs.
This means that of all pairs where one twin has Alzheimer's, 55 percent of the
healthy twins either will never get the disease or will develop it later in
life.

In her previous research with twins, Gatz identified possible preventive or
delaying factors, such as a low incidence of inflammatory disease or a work
environment with a high degree of human interaction.

The sample for the study consisted of all participants in the Swedish Twin
Registry aged 65 or older in 1998 - the year the study began -- for a total of
11,884 twin pairs.

Of these, 392 pairs showed evidence of Alzheimer's in at least one twin.

In the model that best fit the data, genetic influence accounted for 79 percent
of Alzheimer's risk, with 95 percent confidence in a range of 67 to 88 percent.

The other 21 percent of Alzheimer's risk was due to non- shared environmental
causes. Risk from shared environments, such as childhood settings that were the
same for both twins, was statistically negligible.

Genetic risk for Alzheimer's was the same for men and women after controlling
for age.

The study is notable for its careful approach to Alzheimer's diagnosis. All
individuals were screened for cognitive dysfunction. Suspected cases of
dementia, of which Alzheimer's is the most common form, received complete,
in-home clinical diagnostic evaluations by a doctor and nurse. Autopsy
confirmation of diagnoses is being collected.

The research for this study was supported by grants from the National Institute
on Aging and the Alzheimer's Association.

The other USC researcher on the study was co-principal investigator Nancy
Pedersen, a research professor with a joint appointment as professor at
Karolinska Institutet.


anthony shipley

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Tumbleweed - 23 Feb 2006 12:10 GMT
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060206232300.htm
>
> How does this fit in with the assertion that A.D. is caused mostly by
> statins?

I was going to say that I dont believe that Sharon H did directly make that
assertion. But one of the references that Sharon gave seemed quite good at
the start, but then it went to the extreme of anecdotal stories, such as
mentioning how an aged person had killed someone by poor driving, and how
they may have been taking statins and how that may have caused them to have
senility which may therefore have caused the accident and how therefore
statins may have been the cause of all senility....hmmm perhaps you are
right. The fact the writer had to go to those lengths to drag statins in
really made me feel they had to 'scrape the barrel' and thus perhaps it was
a very shaky case to begin with.If it wasnt a shaky case (more than a very
low percentage, if any) it would be a slam dunk and undeniable.

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Sharon Hope - 25 Feb 2006 04:42 GMT
AD and statin adverse effects are different.

The point is
 1) statins do not prevent or cure AD,
 2) statin adverse effects are often wrongly assumed to be AD.

AD is a terribly serious matter, and studies continue to see what can be
done to prevent and cure, and also just to understand.  This is important
research.

That statin companies raise false hopes and "spin" statins, and also refuse
to warn that statins cause similar symptoms means people experience
preventable dementia - a terribly unfair situation.

The money and research and support should go to people who have actual AD.

(and other people should not experience AD symptoms simply to keep up sales
of statins)

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