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June - 08 Feb 2006 14:39 GMT
I've posted how my mother is doing well in assisted living.   Well she's
doing so well that she's gaining weight.   This in itself wouldn't be so bad
but her mother had diabetics and my brother and I are concerned about Mom.
I'm in the process of getting bigger clothes for her.   She was a size 14
but is getting bigger.   I had been buying cookies and having milk and juice
available to her in her apartment.   It has a refrigerator.   I suspect that
when she eats breakfast it's probably a roll and coffee rather than cereal
like she used to eat at home.   They don't serve a hot breakfast but always
have fresh fruit and cereal available as well all the other breakfast stuff.
Should I get more milk for her?   I will get 2% if I do and my brother
suggested sugar free cookies.  Yuck...   Maybe I should not buy any extra
food but I don't want to be mean either.   They serve very good meals,
obviously and it doesn't seem that she eats that much.   As I have found out
when you get older it's so easy to put on weight and it won't leave with the
diets that used to work.   Mom always watched her weight before the dementia
but of course now it's not possible.
Mom's in very good health physically and as I have posted before is in her
13th year with dementia......June
Evelyn Ruut - 08 Feb 2006 19:37 GMT
> I've posted how my mother is doing well in assisted living.   Well she's
> doing so well that she's gaining weight.   This in itself wouldn't be so
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> Mom's in very good health physically and as I have posted before is in her
> 13th year with dementia......June

June, you are very right to be concerned.  I am a diabetic myself.   DO NOT
buy cookies and whole milk for her.  Instead buy some apples, or those
little individual cups with unsweetened applesauce in them.    Sugar free
cookies often are made with Malitol and as such can have gastric upset as a
possible side effect.   Sugar free cookies also have calories, and sometimes
unhealthy fats.    Juice is loaded with calories and carbohydrates.   Also a
poor choice.

When my mother in law began to attend daycare they honestly tended to
overfeed the people there.   They served a huge lunch and a number of snacks
and juices etc.   She also developed diabetes in her later years.    She
gained several sizes over the years she was with us.

How about buying those already cut up little bags of baby carrots and celery
sticks to munch on?  How about some almonds or other nuts?   How about
buying some Wasa crackers instead of bread?   Diet ice tea or other diet
drinks?    I am sure others may also come up with some suggestions that are
not heavily loaded with carbohydrates.

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Dennis P. Harris - 09 Feb 2006 07:14 GMT
> When my mother in law began to attend daycare they honestly tended to
> overfeed the people there.   They served a huge lunch and a number of snacks
> and juices etc.   She also developed diabetes in her later years.    She
> gained several sizes over the years she was with us.

evelyn, i suspect that the diabetes was due to the cancer
invading her pancreas (where insulin is made), since it started
shortly before she was diagnosed.
Evelyn Ruut - 09 Feb 2006 12:15 GMT
>> When my mother in law began to attend daycare they honestly tended to
>> overfeed the people there.   They served a huge lunch and a number of
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> invading her pancreas (where insulin is made), since it started
> shortly before she was diagnosed.

You know Dennis?  I think you might be right on that!   At the time we
thought it was because she was on Risperdol which does tend to raise the
blood glucose a little.   But the pancreas is where insulin is made in the
body, which makes sense in retrospect.   She was diagnosed 6 months after
she was admitted to the nursing home.   Six more months, and she was gone.
That type of cancer moves very quickly.

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Tumbleweed - 09 Feb 2006 17:26 GMT
>> When my mother in law began to attend daycare they honestly tended to
>> overfeed the people there.   They served a huge lunch and a number of
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> invading her pancreas (where insulin is made), since it started
> shortly before she was diagnosed.

exactly the same with a relative of mine. If I ever get diabetes the first
thing I'll be demanding is a scan for cancer.

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Evelyn Ruut - 09 Feb 2006 21:58 GMT
>>> When my mother in law began to attend daycare they honestly tended to
>>> overfeed the people there.   They served a huge lunch and a number of
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> exactly the same with a relative of mine. If I ever get diabetes the first
> thing I'll be demanding is a scan for cancer.

Tumbleweed, don't forget there are TWO kinds of diabetes.  One is caused by
not having enough insulin, and the other is caused by the body not
recognizing the insulin you have.   A good doctor would check for the amount
of insulin present, and there is a test for that.
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Tumbleweed - 09 Feb 2006 22:54 GMT
>> exactly the same with a relative of mine. If I ever get diabetes the
>> first thing I'll be demanding is a scan for cancer.
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> recognizing the insulin you have.   A good doctor would check for the
> amount of insulin present, and there is a test for that.

I knew there were two types, didnt know what the diff was. Cheers.

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Dennis P. Harris - 09 Feb 2006 07:11 GMT
> aybe I should not buy any extra
> food but I don't want to be mean either.   They serve very good meals,
> obviously and it doesn't seem that she eats that much.   As I have found out
> when you get older it's so easy to put on weight and it won't leave with the
> diets that used to work.   Mom always watched her weight before the dementia
> but of course now it's not possible.

she may eat more because she forgets that she has just eaten.
i've been at our local faciity and seen folks asking when dinner
will come just 2 minutes after the kitchen staff cleaned off the
tables!

i don't think i'd leave snacks around, and you might ask the
facility staff to monitor how much she's eating.  remember, older
folks don't need as much food because their metabolism is slower
and they aren't as active.
Nati - 09 Feb 2006 13:03 GMT
Also some medicines help us put on weight. Examples lithium, some
antidepressives ...
 
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