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natjordan@gmail.com - 10 Jan 2006 01:26 GMT
Hello,

My grandfather has Alzheimer's.  He remembers everyone but he has a
short-term memory and will ask the same question several times in a
conversation.  We would like to get him a handheld video game to give
him something engaging and fun to play, but it would have to be a game
that is very easy to understand and play.  I might post something in a
video games group, but does anyone here have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Nat
Anthony Shipley - 10 Jan 2006 02:08 GMT
>Hello,
>
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>that is very easy to understand and play.  I might post something in a
>video games group, but does anyone here have any suggestions?

Interesting idea!

Is there any risk of an overuse injury?

Instead of a video type game, might not a 'reading' game be as good/better?

anthony shipley

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natjordan@gmail.com - 10 Jan 2006 02:28 GMT
> Interesting idea!
>
> Is there any risk of an overuse injury?

His hands are pretty strong, and I suspect he would only play at times
someone gave him some prompting to do so.  So I think he would be okay,
but that's a good question.

> Instead of a video type game, might not a 'reading' game be as good/better?

Maybe so.  What is a reading game?
Anthony Shipley - 10 Jan 2006 09:36 GMT
>> Interesting idea!
>>
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>
>Maybe so.  What is a reading game?

Took me a while to find an anser :-)

I would say a video game is a  "shoot and kill", i.e. a target range sort of
thing.

The reading game might be one that asks questions and awards points for correct
answers?? With all the ageing population, it might make a million :-)

anthony shipley

Run away with me; I can make you unhappy.
Evelyn Ruut - 10 Jan 2006 02:28 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks,
> Nat

Hi Nat,

People with alzheimers often have a very difficult time learning any new
thing.   Even things like the TV remote and the telephone that they have
been using for years, can become confusing to them.

It doesn't matter how simple it is, or how many times you show them, the
part of their brain that processes memories just doesn't work very well
anymore.

Better to just enjoy his company, or sit and talk with him about old times.
That is something people with this illness are very good with, because the
oldest memories are the last ones to desert them.   They can remember the
old times, but will forget something that happened five minutes ago.

I know your heart is in the right place, and you can try it of course, but a
video game may prove frustrating to him.

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Evelyn
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natjordan@gmail.com - 10 Jan 2006 03:54 GMT
> People with alzheimers often have a very difficult time learning any new
> thing.   Even things like the TV remote and the telephone that they have
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> I know your heart is in the right place, and you can try it of course, but a
> video game may prove frustrating to him.

Evelyn, thanks for the reply.  I can't disagree with anything you have
said, because all of these things have been true in my grandfather's
case (although we keep making it harder for him by getting new TV
remotes all the time!).

We have had some success with a game sold by The Sharper Image called
20 Q, which is an electronic game of 20 questions.  You think of an
object, the machine asks you 20 yes or no questions, and then it
guesses what you picked.  It's uncanny how often the machine is
right... sometimes its accuracy is downright creepy.  In any case, it's
a good party game.  Playing the game with other people at the controls,
my grandfather can sometimes stay focused on the object for a full 20
questions, and sometimes he falls short of that.  But it really is fun
to play with him, and he likes electronic gadgets, so we were hoping to
expand on this success somehow.

Nat
Evelyn Ruut - 10 Jan 2006 11:49 GMT
>> People with alzheimers often have a very difficult time learning any new
>> thing.   Even things like the TV remote and the telephone that they have
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>
> Nat

Well perhaps with you to help him it may work out OK.   You can certainly
try, of course!

:-)

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Tumbleweed - 10 Jan 2006 17:07 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks,
> Nat

Nat, you are onto a losing idea :-(

Though from what you say if he can remember a subject long enough to play
the 20Q game (I've got one of those, good arent they) he's not too bad at
the mo.

There are hand held games that plug into the tv that have things like space
invaders and so forth on them, that he might recall from 20 years ago, but I
think he's going to have a hard time picking up anything new unless there is
someone there all the time to prompt him.

Solitaire or similar card game in electronic format? Might work if he can
recall the rules from a long time ago. My father was playing scrabble until
a few years ago but even at that time couldt hold a conversation for more
than a couple of minutes.

To put this in context someone came on here a few months ago looking for an
easy to operate radio, but it turned out the person in question, when they
moved into their new house, couldnt even work out how the faucets worked,as
they were different from before. Anything more than very mild Az or it
(temporarily) being held at bay by medication, you are onto a loser.

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augustwestern - 10 Jan 2006 19:37 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks,
> Nat

I doubt you'll ever see him pick it up without your prompting him and then
explaining each time how to use the device, which he will then fail to
comprehend. Sorry, that's the way AD works. We buy my MIL lots of various
magazines. This provides her something easy to do that she enjoys. She reads
them for hours and underlines sections but never absorbs any of the
information. Not one bit.     best,  AW
Lee - 10 Jan 2006 21:52 GMT
we've had some success, at various stages in my MILs progression with
animated toys (hockey hamsters that played music when you touch their
hands/feet and so on) ...  a remote control car was a HUGE hit a couple of
Christmases ago .... was actually hubby's, but MIL loved it (who'd a thunk
it - not I!) ...she played with it for months.... this year, I threw a silly
musical toy in his stocking and she's appropriated that.... she likes the
fact that no matter what button she pushes, it makes music

she's into keys now too .... the friend that made an activity apron for her
included keys hidden in it ...so far that's the only part of the apron that
really interests her

of course, nothing lasts forever with this illness...what works now won't
work later.... but it works the other way too ... if you get something that
doesn't work now, it just might later ..  often worth giving it another go
another day...week... month ... whatever...later

> Hello,
>
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> Thanks,
> Nat
natjordan@gmail.com - 10 Jan 2006 23:49 GMT
I appreciate all the feedback.  My grandfather's short-term memory is a
little hit-or-miss, so when he's hitting he is able to tackle 20
questions.  We still hold out a little hope that he has got
Parkinson's, as we don't have a 100% diagnosis and many of the symptoms
are similar to Alzheimer's for people his age, from what I understand.

Nat
Evelyn Ruut - 11 Jan 2006 03:52 GMT
>I appreciate all the feedback.  My grandfather's short-term memory is a
> little hit-or-miss, so when he's hitting he is able to tackle 20
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>
> Nat

Nat, please make sure that you do get a real diagnosis on your grandfather
as soon as you can.   There actually are illnesses that look and present
just like alzheimers that are treatable and reversible!    Even if it is
alzheimers, there are medications that can preserve his cognition a little
longer.   But first you need to make sure he gets a good checkup to
determine exactly what he has.

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natjordan@gmail.com - 12 Jan 2006 00:18 GMT
> Nat, please make sure that you do get a real diagnosis on your grandfather
> as soon as you can.   There actually are illnesses that look and present
> just like alzheimers that are treatable and reversible!    Even if it is
> alzheimers, there are medications that can preserve his cognition a little
> longer.   But first you need to make sure he gets a good checkup to
> determine exactly what he has.

Fortunately, this is all in more capable hands than my own... and for
all I know, this diagnosis may be worked out by now.  I don't handle
the medical side of things too much, but I've got a mother and plenty
of aunts that do.  My responsibilities are more social in nature...

Nat
Evelyn Ruut - 12 Jan 2006 00:28 GMT
>> Nat, please make sure that you do get a real diagnosis on your
>> grandfather
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>
> Nat

That's good :-)
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Evelyn
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augustwestern - 11 Jan 2006 03:54 GMT
> I appreciate all the feedback.  My grandfather's short-term memory is a
> little hit-or-miss, so when he's hitting he is able to tackle 20
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Nat

Parkinson's often has a strong aspect of dementia included. My father who
has Parkinson's and also NPHydrocephalus (often mistaken for Parkinson's)
told me tonight on the phone that he'd been at the Dr's for the past hour
and he's been in a nursing home for 4 months.       best,  AW
 
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