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So tired - 03 Jan 2006 02:13 GMT

I freely admit I do not have mental capability I once had and make errors on
a regular basis that I once never would have.

Ablity to admit error and accept correction is quality to be promoted as it
bring great wealth in time.

I would love to be proven wrong on what I say as I don't like what I know.

I once loved great debates with quotes from books and studies, trading gems
from hundreds of hours of delving . Wars of knowldge being my love.

Assume the souces you trust are wrong till you prove otherwise and watch for
the mistakes they will make. Make proving your deepest beliefs wrong till
you know for sure your joy.

Given that Alzheimer's was a rarely diagnosed disorder a century ago there
are only 3 posibilities the current epidemic.

The pro-alzheimer's stand is better diagnosis finding what already existed.
The published studies seem to refute this.

To avoid a ugly debate I will take 2nd possiblity that a large percentage of
diagnosises are errors. Given that the US gov states the best doctors in
this country are wrong about a Alzheimer's diagnosis at least 10% of the
time and that most people don't see the best doctors this is a easy stand.

It is in people's best intrests to assume their doctor has made a error
until proven wrong.

Don't accept a diagnosis of a unprovable and basicly untreatable condition
of Alzheimer's until you have eliminated everything that is provable and
treatable.

You may have one or more of a limited number of common things that cause
similar symptoms.

The following link cover most of what worked for me to a acceptable degree.

http://www.midnightcafe.com/alzh/

I hope I have explained myself to your satisfaction.

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 03 Jan 2006 03:04 GMT

The problem with your premise is that the very first patient described
with Alzheimer's died in 1906, so its been less than a century that the
disease was actually identified as a specific entity.

Its also a disease of old age primarily, with your odds going up with
age (by the time a person is 85, they have a 50-50 chance of getting
it). 100 years ago, the average lifespan was 45 years, so not that many
people survived into very old age.

I do agree that many people are not appropriately evaluated and
diagnosed. It is important to rule out everything else it might be.

M.

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So tired - 04 Jan 2006 17:47 GMT

> The problem with your premise is that the very first patient described
> with Alzheimer's died in 1906, so its been less than a century that the
> disease was actually identified as a specific entity.

You don't happen to have a link do you?

I am getting lazy in my old age.

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 04 Jan 2006 20:13 GMT

http://www.ahaf.org/alzdis/about/adhistory.htm

And the first case described was of a 51-year-old woman, Auguste D, was
admitted to an asylum in Frankfurt. She died in 1906, and he was able
to examine her brain.

Dementias of various forms have always been with us, but specific
diagnosis of a particular KIND is relatively recent. Hence, so many
people thinking there is a such a thing as "senile dementia", "second
childhood" as a normal consequence of aging.

http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/en/genome/geneticsandsociety/hg13f026.html

So, prior to 1910, less than 100 years ago (when someone came up with
the term Alzheimer's Disease), no one would have put that label on
anyone as a diagnosis.

M

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So tired - 04 Jan 2006 22:40 GMT

Useful links, thanks.

Did you know that the Romans had running water in the year 100ad? They used
lead as a pipe sealer. It was also used as a glazing compound. It makes
roman history read alot more sensible.

Lead was later used as a early food can sealer. There are some horribly
funny stories about the antics of explorers who lived on canned food.

Then mercury gave us the wonderful phrase " Mad as a hatter" because of it's
use in felting. Then started replacing gold as dental filling of choice in
the late 1800's

The use of Aluminum in food storage in the 50's seems to ushered in the
senility epidemic.

The problems with such things are that in the decades it takes to see a side
effect the people made rich by it develope a vested intrest in preventing
notice.

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