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augustwestern - 22 Dec 2005 06:22 GMT
I didn't want to hijack Michelle's thread so I started another one dealing
with teeth problems.

Evelyn wrote:  Hi August,

When we first took Ida to live with us her teeth were in a sorry state, and
that alone was odd, since she always had taken good care of them before.
She needed several teeth pulled and a new bridge, and some other work.   She
had unexplainably lost her first bridge and we never could find it.

That's one reason our dentist doesn't want to pull all my MIL's teeth.
Getting dentures would be a nightmare and if they weren't attached with a
cable they would soon be gone forever. About 6 weeks ago my MIL found a
molar that was loose so she pulled it, breaking it off in the process. This
meant dental surgery to get the root out. Now she has chipped or broken
several others and we catch her fiddling with her loose teeth frequently.
Recently another tooth or two has gone missing. Of course if she keeps
pulling her teeth she will soon be on a mush diet and then it will be a pain
to keep her weight up. Thankfully, all the nerves in her teeth appear to be
dead, so there is no pain. Dementia is such a weird disease. Always full of
surprises for caregivers.      AW
michelle - 22 Dec 2005 09:15 GMT
August even on a soft diet eg vitamised there is no reason that there
should be a weight loss associated with this.I work on both sides at my
nursing home Carer and Cook.We do mash and vitamised everyday 3xtimes a
day You would be amazed at all you can do.Also you can cook ahead and
vit/mash and store in the refrigerator depending on the food types for
3-5 days.You can also viamise say a left over stew and freeze it in
portions
Michelle
June - 22 Dec 2005 11:37 GMT
>I didn't want to hijack Michelle's thread so I started another one dealing
> with teeth problems.

> Getting dentures would be a nightmare and if they weren't attached with a
> cable they would soon be gone forever. About 6 weeks ago my MIL found a
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> of
> surprises for caregivers.      AW

There's always  products like Ensure and Instant Breakfast that add a lot of
nutrition and calories to your diet.  You can stir Instant Breakfast into
pudding and other things too......June
augustwestern - 23 Dec 2005 19:59 GMT
> There's always  products like Ensure and Instant Breakfast that add a lot of
> nutrition and calories to your diet.  You can stir Instant Breakfast into
> pudding and other things too......June

June and Michelle,  Thanks for the suggestions. We have used Ensure in the
past. Our LO still has a pretty good appetite for regular food as long as
you cut up her meat in small bites and watch her while eating. If she is
hungry or really likes something, she tends to eat too fast and then chokes.
She was always vain about her teeth. Her old dentist wanted to pull the
front 5 teeth eight or nine years ago but even then we knew she wouldn't
deal well with having a bridge. She recently got her teeth cleaned for the
first time in 2 years and that was a mistake. She is a compulsive brusher
anyways but when they cleaned the plaque off her teeth it began two weeks of
constant questioning about what was wrong with her teeth and asking to go to
the dentist - when she'd just been to the dentist. Now her teeth are
cracking and breaking off a bit here and a bit there each week or so. It's a
mess in progress. I just don't want to think about having to deal with
having them pulled.       AW
Ruth - 23 Dec 2005 04:02 GMT
I'm so happy to see this thread.  Dental issues are going to an ongoing
issue for my husband, I fear.
About a year ago I visited Larry's dentist because he was complaining that
his dentist was pulling out teeth and had grandiose plans for replacements.
I knew that the teeth had come out when he was young and wanted to give the
dentist fair warning and a heads up.  Larry's most recent visit included an
long hour with the hygienist - he wasn't brushing as he should.
And speaking of hygiene, we also paid a visit to the dermatologist for what
I thought was keritoses (sp?).  Turns out it's seborrhea -a buildup of gunk
from not shampooing thoroughly.  Looks like we have taken a couple of big
steps backward here.
Ruth
>I didn't want to hijack Michelle's thread so I started another one dealing
> with teeth problems.
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> of
> surprises for caregivers.      AW
Evelyn Ruut - 23 Dec 2005 12:29 GMT
> I'm so happy to see this thread.  Dental issues are going to an ongoing
> issue for my husband, I fear.
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> steps backward here.
> Ruth

Personal hygeine so often seems to be one of the first things to go.   The
first time I hugged my mother in law goodbye after having been to her house
for dinner, and realized she actually had an odor, I remember thinking how
very odd it was.

She had always been so clean and neat with herself, her home, just
everything.   This was before we even saw any strange behavior of any kind.
Both hubby and I noticed it and commented that it was noticeable and very
odd, while we drove home.   Little did we know that it was the beginning.

By the time her illness was noticeable in other ways, (and the entire
process of taking her here to live), that bathtub in her house had so much
dust and dirt in it, it was obvious that nobody had bathed in that tub in a
long long time.

And of course, when we did get her to take that first bath, which I have
spoken of here, she already needed complete supervision while bathing,
because she just had forgotten how to clean herself effectively.   She would
try to get out of shampooing, and I would say OK, but then a few minutes
later I'd try again and put shampoo on her head.   Once the hair was wet and
had shampoo on it, she'd start to scrub.

It doesn't hurt to mention again, that the shower head on a hose and a
shower chair, were necessities to get her cleaned thoroughly and cooperate
with bathing at all.   I think it took away that "out of control" feeling of
standing in the full shower stream that some have noticed seems so
overwhelming to a person with alzheimers.

Regards,
Evelyn
Karen - 29 Dec 2005 04:06 GMT
Sounds like a shampoo brush might help too.  You can scrub thoroughly but
gently with them.  I picked several in different colors up at a local beauty
supply and even use one to bathe the dog.

Karen

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> > And speaking of hygiene, we also paid a visit to the dermatologist for
> > what
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> > steps backward here.
> > Ruth

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> It doesn't hurt to mention again, that the shower head on a hose and a
> shower chair, were necessities to get her cleaned thoroughly and cooperate
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> Regards,
> Evelyn
 
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