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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / December 2005

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Can therapy be discontinued without adverse effects?

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Roberto - 06 Dec 2005 22:03 GMT
My father is 78 years old and since 1998 he is been suffering from Alzheimer
desease, that started up in a kind of "mild" way.
Between 1998 and 2001 the doctor prescribed to him Aricept (donepezil) that
was provided free of charge from the italian state medical assistance.
During 2001 the doctor prescribed Exelon (rivastigmina) instead, that as
well, was provided free of charge.
Since a few months the state medical assistance is saying that my father is
not elegible any more to receive free Exelon (MMSE<10).
According to the doctor suggestion we are gradually decreasing the
subministration of Exelon and we started to use Exibia (memantina) that for
the first 6 months was provided free of charge.
Starting next week we will not be able to get any more Exibia free of
charges either.. because of changes in  the states regulations...
The doctor suggested to suspend also Exibia and see what happens.
Is anybody out there who can tell me something based on real life
experience?
Any deterioration in the condition of the patient / ill person?
Is it possible that my father is still positively affected by the effects of
the Exelon?
Any known deterioration after the suspention of Exibia (memantina)?
I am undecided whether to stop Exibia or continue the cure buying it myself.

Thank you

Roberto
Tumbleweed - 06 Dec 2005 22:40 GMT
> My father is 78 years old and since 1998 he is been suffering from
> Alzheimer desease, that started up in a kind of "mild" way.
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> Roberto

Roberto, none of these drugs are 'cures', all they do is slow down how
quickly the person gets worse.

In my father's case, removing them did make him get worse quicker, sometimes
you can see the change almost straight away, but it depends how bad they
are, there does come a point when they really arent doing any good, you'll
have to judge for yourself if he has got worse or not since the memantine
stopped.

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Evelyn Ruut - 06 Dec 2005 23:35 GMT
> My father is 78 years old and since 1998 he is been suffering from
> Alzheimer desease, that started up in a kind of "mild" way.
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> Roberto

Roberto, I can only speak from one experience, that of my mother in law, who
passed away last April.  When we discontinued her Aricept for a short time,
the effect was noticeable and immediate.   When we started it up again a
week later, the change for the better was also noticeable and immediate.

I have heard of situations where the person is so far along in their illness
that these drugs are no longer of any use, but then again I have also heard
of studies that showed they improved even in late stages when these kinds of
drugs were started late.

The only thing you can do is try and observe carefully if your father seems
more confused or disoriented when the medication is stopped.   If that is
the case, you know they are still of value to him and it will be worth your
while to obtain them yourself.

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Evelyn

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 06 Dec 2005 23:55 GMT
Roberto, you don't mention what stage of the illness your father is at.
I ask, because there is more to lose if your father is quite
functional, as opposed to very impaired.

With my mother in law, I know there was a point in her illness where
slowing down the progress would not necessarily have been a kindness.
However, earlier on, when she was still herself and still had some
quality of life, yes, continuing any therapy that might preserve
function would have been worth while.

M.
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 06 Dec 2005 23:56 GMT
Roberto, you don't mention what stage of the illness your father is at.
I ask, because there is more to lose if your father is quite
functional, as opposed to very impaired.

With my mother in law, I know there was a point in her illness where
slowing down the progress would not necessarily have been a kindness.
However, earlier on, when she was still herself and still had some
quality of life, yes, continuing any therapy that might preserve
function would have been worth while.

M.
michelle - 07 Dec 2005 09:21 GMT
>From my most recent experience of finding out my Mum had been withdrawn
from Aricept in July with  no information about this given to us as a
family, I would have liked to be given the chance of continuing the
medication even if I had had to pay for it.I have seen a large decline
in my Mums cognitive awareness in the last couple of months and felt it
was rather quick.So could it have been from being taken off the
Aricept.I will never know now.
 
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