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"Food Tastes Funny"?

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Norm³ - 28 Nov 2005 14:35 GMT
My GMom doesn't want to eat she says Food Tastes Funny even water. She had a
thing she called a drip before she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She had
gone to 20 Doctors about it none of them knew what it was or how to treat
it. Now she doesn't want to eat because of it. Does anyone have a similar
experience?
Evelyn Ruut - 28 Nov 2005 15:00 GMT
> My GMom doesn't want to eat she says Food Tastes Funny even water. She had
> a thing she called a drip before she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She
> had gone to 20 Doctors about it none of them knew what it was or how to
> treat it. Now she doesn't want to eat because of it. Does anyone have a
> similar experience?

Could she have been referring to a post nasal drip?
That comes from sinus infections, and yes, it can affect taste.

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Evelyn

(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')

Gwen Love - 28 Nov 2005 20:54 GMT
That was my thought also.  I have post nasal drip and it is not very nice
to
have.  It is very irritating, and could easily affect the taste of food.
See an ear, nose, throat doctor.

Gwen

>> My GMom doesn't want to eat she says Food Tastes Funny even water. She
>> had a thing she called a drip before she was diagnosed with
Alzheimer's.
>> She had gone to 20 Doctors about it none of them knew what it was or
how
>> to treat it. Now she doesn't want to eat because of it. Does anyone
have
>> a similar experience?
>
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>
> (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
Norm³ - 07 Dec 2005 19:51 GMT
We went to tons of different Doctors.Without any success.

> That was my thought also.  I have post nasal drip and it is not very nice
> to
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>> (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')
So tired - 01 Jan 2006 18:16 GMT
When your health is down you notice chemicals you would not otherwise.  When
your health is comprimised everything can taste wrong.

Could be a instinctive responce to chlorine or something else in the water.
Have you tried filters or bottled water? I found a filter helped alot.

HAS she been to a Allergy doctor? It is quite common to either have a
revulsion or a craving for a "food" that causes a allergic responce.  Food
can cause dramatic brain fog and alot worse.  DOES HER DEMENTIA BECOME WORSE
A HOUR OR SO AFTER EATING? It can take months to track dow all the foods
that cause you to become delusional. However if it is sugar products I would
bet on a yeast infection. I found I quit reacting to cokes after being
treated for candita yeast.

Has she been tested for metal poisoning?

http://www.midnightcafe.com/alzh/

http://www.midnightcafe.com/alzh/diagnosis5.html#recovery

Definatly concider "The cure for all disease" by Dr. Clark.

Her study into enviromental poisoning is staggering. Her methods for dealing
with it are great. If a bit overboard for everyone but the worst off.

Concider "It's all in your head " by Hal Huggins

Could be fillings or dentures are the problem and need to be changed. They
can dramaticly affect the taste of food.

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Evelyn Ruut - 01 Jan 2006 18:23 GMT
The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
medicine nut case.  Please go away.

> When your health is down you notice chemicals you would not otherwise.
> When
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So tired - 01 Jan 2006 20:53 GMT
> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
> medicine nut case.  Please go away.

Could you be specific as to where I was wrong?

Did she not state "We went to tons of different Doctors.Without any success"
in responce to your suggested sinus infection or condition? Since it is not
infection where do you go?

Food Allergies fit the listed symptoms. This is as mainstream as it gets.
Has she been to a allergist?

Metal poisoning also fit. Depending on how old the piping is she could have
lead poisoning. This is not as common now as a century ago but it depends on
where you live. She probably was not a welder but she may be downwind from a
plant of some kind. There are plenty of movies made about lawsuits from
people becoming sick near by manufacturing plants.

Can we say Love Canal?

http://ublib.buffalo.edu/libraries/projects/lovecanal/

Has the water been tested for metals or chemicals? Is she on well water?

Have air samples from the house been tested?

Has she moved and the problem followed?

It is most likely it is a build up of several problems that overwhelmed her
rather than another love cannal but there is not information to narrow it
down.

Everything tasting wrong and demensia  are red flags that there are certain
specialists she should see. Food allergies, metals, and or chemicals of some
kind all can cause these symptoms.

Has she been tested? A simple hair sample can eliminate or confirm  many of
the obvious.

If you eliminate the obvious you usualy have cured the problem.
Evelyn Ruut - 02 Jan 2006 00:25 GMT
>> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
>> medicine nut case.  Please go away.
>
> Could you be specific as to where I was wrong?

Take your snake oil elsewhere......
So tired - 02 Jan 2006 00:40 GMT
Inability to find error someones work usualy means the error is at your end.

> >> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
> >> medicine nut case.  Please go away.
> >
> > Could you be specific as to where I was wrong?
>
> Take your snake oil elsewhere......
Tumbleweed - 02 Jan 2006 21:16 GMT
> Inability to find error someones work usualy means the error is at your
> end.

..or that she is speaking to a fruitcake. I'll go with the latter
hypothesis.

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So tired - 02 Jan 2006 21:45 GMT
> ..or that she is speaking to a fruitcake. I'll go with the latter
> hypothesis.

I am a fruitcase for saying test for what causes the same symptoms as AD and
can be tested for?

Do you realise the US goverment says that a diagnosis of AD cannot be proven
in the living and it takes a specilised center to aproach a 90% correct
diagnosis?

http://www.alzheimers.org/pubs/adfact.html

Maybe I am wrong but I bet most of us never see the best of the best for
diagnosis. So how good is your doctor at guessing? Not proving but guessing.

I simply say test for what can be proven and treated.

I hate settling for guesses when I can test for something that causes the
same symptom with a 100% certainty for very little money.
Tumbleweed - 02 Jan 2006 23:08 GMT
>> ..or that she is speaking to a fruitcake. I'll go with the latter
>> hypothesis.
>
> I am a fruitcase for saying test for what causes the same symptoms as AD
> and
> can be tested for?

I'll take it you meant 'Am I' or was that a Freudian slip?  :-)

You are a fruitcake for suggesting that you removed aluminium from your body
by switching from canned beer to bottled beer for one week, and that cured
your problem. If you had a problem due to aluminium in your body it wouldnt
be removed after 1 week, certainly not removed just by not drinking from
cans, and in any case there is plenty of alumunium in normal food and water
so its not like removing one source (with absolutely minimal levels) would
make such a radical difference...or in fact any difference.

You are a fruitcake for seemingly suggesting in your initial posts that
anyone who has AZ has some simple food intolerance or allergy or mecury
poisoning or Al instead.

I am a fruitcake for responding to you.

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So tired - 03 Jan 2006 00:10 GMT
> I'll take it you meant 'Am I' or was that a Freudian slip?  :-)

Bad english on my part.

> You are a fruitcake for suggesting that you removed aluminium from your body
> by switching from canned beer to bottled beer for one week,

It was like waking up from a long drunk. I was messed up but sober enough to
know it. Lowered the Load level by Limiting the intake and excreeted alot
due to urination brought me above black out level. When you spend alot of
time mindlessly staring  with spit dripping off your chin small improvements
catch your attention. It was the first time in years I felt better at the
end of a week instead of worse.

It took years. The biggest gains were in the 3rd  to 8th months. The third
because I getting able do what was needed  to the eight because after that
it was mainly healing.

I will never fully recover though I could come close if I had the money.
Disability does not leave enough and I have gotten complacent.

> You are a fruitcake for seemingly suggesting in your initial posts that
> anyone who has AZ has some simple food intolerance or allergy or mecury
> poisoning or Al instead.

How do they know it is AZ? There is no real test. The doctor guesses based
on symptoms. It turns out mine guessed wrong. Given that AZ was a rare
condition less than a century ago I am willing to bet there are alot of
doctors making bad calls.

My old doctor would probably be willing to admit I did not actualy have AZ
since I got better. I haven't talked to that bastard in 15 years.

Test for what can be proven to cause the same symptoms. A few hundred bucks
spent on eliminating  possible, curable, causes is reasonble when facing
life as a pain ridden demented cripple as a alternative. I was down to
thinking I needed to kill myself in the next week or two while I still had
enough mental ability when I found my cure.

> I am a fruitcake for responding to you.

No Everyone wants to belive reason will prevale. The question is do you
understand what the other person means which can be quite different from
what he says.
Gwen Love - 01 Jan 2006 21:23 GMT
 Evelyn, I have already "blocked sender!"
Gwen

> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
> medicine nut case.  Please go away.
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>> READ   READ  READ
Evelyn Ruut - 02 Jan 2006 00:25 GMT
>  Evelyn, I have already "blocked sender!"
> Gwen

Good idea...

Ev

>> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
>> medicine nut case.  Please go away.
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>>>
>>> READ   READ  READ
June - 02 Jan 2006 15:18 GMT
> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
> medicine nut case.  Please go away.

I think "So Tired" is getting carried away with alternative medicine but
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.   Some dementias could have a
base in food allergies or other health problems.   When my mother-in-law was
in the nursing home and she became confused and showed signs of worsening
dementia, they immediately tested her for a bladder infection and they found
out that she did indeed have one.  Unfortunately when someone becomes
obsessed with alternative medicine as the only answer, they tend to turn
people off..........June
Evelyn Ruut - 02 Jan 2006 15:29 GMT
>> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
>> medicine nut case.  Please go away.
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> someone becomes obsessed with alternative medicine as the only answer,
> they tend to turn people off..........June

Hi June,

I know that, and I do use certain herbal remedies and supplements myself, as
well as regular allopathic medicines and drugs.   But like you say, this
person is obviously obsessed.

I just can't stand trolls, and "so tired" seems to be one.

:-(

Evelyn
Lee - 02 Jan 2006 22:27 GMT
I found the name s/he chose interesting.... how could s/he possible be "so
tired" after all them miracle cures?

>>> The last thing any one needs on this newsgroup is another alternative
>>> medicine nut case.  Please go away.
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>
> Evelyn
Dennis P. Harris - 02 Jan 2006 19:12 GMT
> Unfortunately when someone becomes
> obsessed with alternative medicine as the only answer, they tend to turn
> people off.

when someone has THE answer to every mental problem, and there's
only ONE answer, it's more than an obsession.  usually, they're
trying to sell you some kind of snake oil.  none of these quacks
are worth wasting time on (why am i writing this???).  i just
drop 'em in the killfile and ignore them.
So tired - 02 Jan 2006 20:39 GMT
Thanks for the kind words.

My point is not about curing alzheimer's.

It is about misdiagnosis.

Alot of things have the same symptoms.

Alzhiemer's was a rare condition before aluminum was used for canning.
Better diagnostics now or lack of testing for aluminum poisoning? For me it
was the later. Yes I had high mercury levels too.

Alzheimer's or allergies? For me the later.

Alzheimers or parasites? For me the later.

Not one of the doctors I saw suggested testing for what was causing my
problems. I got it all from books out of libraries and health food stores.
Makes me sick to think of.

Not a single person going into a nursing home for Alzheimer's is worst off
than I was.

Getting cured was cheap. The doctors bankrupted me.
So tired - 02 Jan 2006 00:55 GMT
Does your mother become brain fogged or feel bad after a bath?

Don't suggest it to her. Just odserve and ask simple questions like "How are
you feeling?"

20 years ago I lived in a house I would not drink the water in unless it was
filtered. Had to use limeaway every so often on the tub to prevent stain
build up. Lot of minerals in the water.
 
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