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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Alzheimer's / November 2005Oh Brother!
I thought I had it all covered. My mother who has dementia wouldn't be left alone in Florida anymore and her place would be sold. My brother who has POA managed to find a buyer in Florida for the house. It's a manufactured doublewide on a foundation. The house which is located 10 miles north of Vero Beach went thru Frances and Jean and sustained damage but remains livable so far..... I called my brother last Wednesday just before he, my mother and his 22 year old girlfriend were to leave from Indiana to go to Florida. I advised him there is a hurricane on the way to Florida and they should wait before leaving. He checked the weather channel, saw the storm in the Caribbean and left anyway. I called him on Thursday on his cell ...they're in Tennessee near Chattanooga. I told him it's still looking bad for Florida stay north of the Florida line. He said oh it's heading west not east but would stay north of Florida. Well I called today at about 10 AM and they're all at my mother's house. He says the weather's great. I told him I checked the weather for their area and there's a mandatory evacuation order for all manufactured housing for Brevard County. He says we're only a mile from Indian River County which is directly south of Brevard so it may not affect us. I remind him that Wilma is coming across Florida from the SW and there's a mandatory evacuation order for Indian River county too. 'Sigh' At this point I suspect that Mom and Dad adopted him. He couldn't be related to me. He says he hasn't heard about any evacuation order. I asked him to call the sheriff department to check it out. He said he would but they're going to Wal-Mart first to pick up boxes to pack up everything. Really it's his business about staying but my 86 year old mother is with him. BTW in case you're wondering ...he's 65. Yeah I know -- 22 year old girlfriend but she treats my mother with kindness and that's all that matters to me. So here I am waiting on a hurricane and hoping my brother will get over his denial about it. He still has some denial about Mom's dementia but time isn't on his side about this hurricane. I'll keep you posted.......June June, I pray your mother, brother and his girlfriend will be all right. Try not to worry too much. Gwen >I thought I had it all covered. My mother who has dementia wouldn't be >left alone in Florida anymore and her place would be sold. My brother who [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > dementia but time isn't on his side about this hurricane. I'll keep you > posted.......June June -- Can you call the Broward County Sheriff's Office and alert them there is an impaired senior at XYZ address who needs help to commply with the mandatory evacuation since her family members do not seem to understand the gravity of ths situation? Even if they send a patrol car out there to check on her, it may get your brother moving. Of course, they may not have anyone avilable, but worth a phone call perhaps. And while on the phone, ask about available shelters -- at least tell your brother where he could be going if he waits too long. I get really ugly about people defying mandatory evacuations. My brother was an EMT on the Outer Banks, and he would be the one out wading through chest deep water in full turout gear to rescue some the children of some idiot who thought it would be "just a big storm" until the roof blew off his house. Songbird > June -- Can you call the Broward County Sheriff's Office and alert them > there is an impaired senior at XYZ address who needs help to commply [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Songbird Well They're in Brevard county which is considerably north of Broward county. I'll call back later this afternoon and see what their plans are. I may take your advice. Sorry -- I"m geographically challenged and forgot which county you said! Songbird My the Lord have Mercy. Some people just live in the River Egypt so long they forget there is anything else. I pray your family comes through this in good shape. I know what a worry this is, I have family in Louisiana LJ > I thought I had it all covered. My mother who has dementia wouldn't be > left alone in Florida anymore and her place would be sold. My brother who [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > about it. He still has some denial about Mom's dementia but time isn't on > his side about this hurricane. I'll keep you posted.......June Hi all.... I talked to my mother this evening and she's having a good day. Thank goodness. She mentioned the club house that her park has and that it might be a good place to go. She even remembered to tell my brother that I called ( he was swimming in the pool). When he called back I mentioned the club house in case Mom forgot. So he's going to check it out. I read on the internet that the shelter nearest them is almost full as of 1:30 this afternoon. Just now my desktop weather alerted me that there's tornado warnings just west of them. I seem to know more here in Indiana than he does down there! Anyway it's up to them to stay safe. I've done all I can. There's more but I'll keep this brief for now........June Oh, June ... how worrisome for you. I don't know if you are a praying woman, but I am and I will ... Hope that doesn't offend you -- some people here get touchy about such things. (of course, I'm praying that *everyone* in Wilma's path is safe -- just putting in an extra "plug" for June's family! <G>) Songbird If the pray is to the same deity as the one that sent the Hurricane, doesn't that seem futile? Maybe a better pray would be "Don't send these damned Hurricanes." Frederick > Oh, June ... how worrisome for you. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Songbird Prayers for your mother's safely and for relief for you b/c I know you are extremely worried about her. I don't get some people's mentality in these storms...even after living among them for many years. My hubby is one of those, "I'll ride it out..it's just a little storm" grrrrr so I can understand you being frustrated with your brother for ignoring your mother's safety esp since you made your brother aware before he left. Is your brother in denial, afraid it could happen to him too, or showing early signs himself with regards to his denial about your mom's condition. I know probably just having head buried in sand and not recognizing her condition...but you never know. Sounds like he's using poor judgement right now with regards to the storm esp given her condition in any case. Hoping the best for her through this trip. You sound like what I said after Rita. After Katrina hit New Orleans and I heard various pulpit pounders talking about "God's wrath on Sin City" my first thought after Rita was "Gee, what's Beaumont, TX been up to? Last I heard it was a fairly quiet place." The devastation from hurricanes this year has been terrible. I can't believe how much attention is still not being paid on an official level to the issue of disoriented elderly that get separated from their family. Karen > If the pray is to the same deity as the one that sent the Hurricane, doesn't > that seem futile? Maybe a better pray would be "Don't send these damned > Hurricanes." > Frederick > You sound like what I said after Rita. After Katrina hit New Orleans and > I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Karen I got a chuckle out of both your post and Fredericks. I had heard that some of the Islamic extremists had been saying that "Allah" had sent the storms "to punish the nasty Americans." I wonder if that same reasoning might imply that "Allah" also sent the horrible earthquakes that have ravaged Pakistan? I don't believe either view is correct reasoning, and I feel deep compassion for all people who have suffered from natural disasters, no matter who or where they are.  SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') Amen! And I am firmly on the side of C.S. Lewis, who said (in some form) "I don't pray because it changes God; I pray because it changes *me*." Songbird > Amen! And I am firmly on the side of C.S. Lewis, who said (in some > form) "I don't pray because it changes God; I pray because it changes > *me*." > > Songbird That is interesting, as it is exactly the way that buddhists view prayer as well. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Oct 26, 2005, 1:20pm (CDT-2) From: carolinasongbird@gmail.com Amen! And I am firmly on the side of C.S. Lewis, who said (in some form) "I don't pray because it changes God; I pray because it changes *me*." Songbird Ronny: I like that. I like that a lot! :-) And I have heard some about C.S. Lewis; but as far as I know I've never read one of his books. Though I have heard some people say they are very good. Really need to check somethings out online about all this. Need somemore books to read anyway! LoL I subscribe to the "**it happens" theory or if you want the Christian version -- It rains upon the just and the unjust. I just wish the natural disasters would settle down for awhile. It's not like humans don't make enough chaos all on their own. Nothing against Beaumont, but I had family there while growing up and the place became synonymous with boring (which, I'm sure, is due to the family not the town). I just can't imagine anything going on in Beaumont that would tempt Thor to unleash the lightening or whatever. Insufficient imagination, I suppose. :-) Karen > I got a chuckle out of both your post and Fredericks. I had heard that > some of the Islamic extremists had been saying that "Allah" had sent the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for all people who have suffered from natural disasters, no matter who or > where they are. >Nothing against Beaumont, but I had family there while growing up and the >place became synonymous with boring (which, I'm sure, is due to the family >not the town). I just can't imagine anything going on in Beaumont that >would tempt Thor to unleash the lightening or whatever. Insufficient >imagination, I suppose. :-) Can't say I'd ever contemplate living in a place called "Beaumont". -- 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 12:05pm (CDT+13) From: astech@iinet.net.au (Anthony Shipley) "Karen" <kk5151@hotmail.com> [WA] wrote: Nothing against Beaumont, but I had family there while growing up and the place became synonymous with boring (which, I'm sure, is due to the family not the town). I just can't imagine anything going on in Beaumont that would tempt Thor to unleash the lightening or whatever. Insufficient imagination, I suppose. :-) Anthony to Karen: Can't say I'd ever contemplate living in a place called "Beaumont". Ronny: :-) Can't say I would either;but not because of the name. :-) Pronounced Bo-mont around here. Been there once years ago. Didn't get to stay long,so didn't see much. Just a regular mid sized town down near the ocean. Must have grown a good bit since I was there. Not exactly what you'd cast as a "Den of Sin" though, eh Ronny? More like the breakfast room. :-) Karen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 12:05pm (CDT+13) Anthony to Karen: Can't say I'd ever contemplate living in a place called "Beaumont". Ronny: :-) Can't say I would either;but not because of the name. :-) Pronounced Bo-mont around here. Been there once years ago. Didn't get to stay long,so didn't see much. Just a regular mid sized town down near the ocean. Must have grown a good bit since I was there. >Not exactly what you'd cast as a "Den of Sin" though, eh Ronny? More like >the breakfast room. :-) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >:-) Can't say I would either;but not because of the name. :-) Pronounced >Bo-mont around here. Same pronounciation over here too. Nothing personal; just a random and, unfounded, personal prejudice :-) -- 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 1:14pm (CDT+13) From: astech@iinet.net.au (Anthony Shipley) "Karen" <kk5151@hotmail.com> [WA] wrote: Not exactly what you'd cast as a "Den of Sin" though, eh Ronny? More like the breakfast room. :-) Karen "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:851-436189FB-472@storefull-3338.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 12:05pm (CDT+13) Anthony to Karen: Can't say I'd ever contemplate living in a place called "Beaumont". Ronny: :-) Can't say I would either;but not because of the name. :-) Pronounced Bo-mont around here. Anthony: Same pronounciation over here too. Nothing personal; just a random and, unfounded, personal prejudice :-) Ronny: I'm the same way about a street in a local town here! LoL New housing addition to a small town of 16,000 people and the street is called Briarwood. Saw it when I started driving a new route to town about a year ago. It's just such a pretentious name to me! (ha) And all it means is they put this new housing addition in an old oak woods area that had briars! I kid you not! LoL And no one around here likes the briars we have! Hateful thorny things! LoL And it just bugs me that they would name a street after such! LoL My pet peeve in this direction is when the city planners name all the streets in an area with similar names,,, Briarforest, Briarmeadow, Briarglen, Briarcreek, etc. I haven't decided yet if it's a lack of creativity or an attempt to be cute (like naming the kids Muffy, Buffy and Scruffy). And yes, who would want to live in a briar patch? :-) One street name I see that cracks me up is Fenwood. Most people now don't know what a fen is (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fen). I just can't picture the address 123 Swampwood Lane. LOL! And it's in a nice area too. Karen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 1:14pm (CDT+13) Ronny: I'm the same way about a street in a local town here! LoL New housing addition to a small town of 16,000 people and the street is called Briarwood. Saw it when I started driving a new route to town about a year ago. It's just such a pretentious name to me! (ha) And all it means is they put this new housing addition in an old oak woods area that had briars! I kid you not! LoL And no one around here likes the briars we have! Hateful thorny things! LoL And it just bugs me that they would name a street after such! LoL I live in Toronto, the land of many subdivisions (we sprawl over a huge area in the GTA - "Greater Toronto Area" ). You would howl if you could see the street names in newer developments. The developers like to come up with a "theme" for the street names in new subdivisions, and they are often too cutesy for words (all tree names, all flower names, all names with the word Rose in them somewhere, hockey players etc. My dad's neighbourhood had streets like Live Oak and Burnt Log. There is a recently built infill development in Scarborough where they named a street after comedian Mike Myers. Ack! How'd you like to tell people you live on Mike Myers Drive? M. I live in Toronto, the land of many subdivisions (we sprawl over a huge area in the GTA - "Greater Toronto Area" ). You would howl if you could see the street names in newer developments. The developers like to come up with a "theme" for the street names in new subdivisions, and they are often too cutesy for words (all tree names, all flower names, all names with the word Rose in them somewhere, hockey players etc. My dad's neighbourhood had streets like Live Oak and Burnt Log. There is a recently built infill development in Scarborough where they named a street after comedian Mike Myers. Ack! How'd you like to tell people you live on Mike Myers Drive? M. Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 10:44pm From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) Not exactly what you'd cast as a "Den of Sin" though, eh Ronny? More like the breakfast room. :-) Karen Ronny: I wouldn't think it would be a den of sin!:-) And certainly have never heard it had that reputation! LoL I don't know,to me some people get some funny ideas when it comes to disasters happening here and there. The whys and such of that? My idea is just let God take care of that part and our part is simply to help people where we can when they're really having to go through such horrible stuff. I simply rather do that than go about trying to judge why this and that bad thing(s) happened to a large number of people in different places. --------- "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:851-436189FB-472@storefull-3338.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 12:05pm (CDT+13) Anthony to Karen: Can't say I'd ever contemplate living in a place called "Beaumont". Ronny: :-) Can't say I would either;but not because of the name. :-) Pronounced Bo-mont around here. Been there once years ago. Didn't get to stay long,so didn't see much. Just a regular mid sized town down near the ocean. Must have grown a good bit since I was there. > I told him I checked the weather for their area and >there's a mandatory evacuation order for all manufactured housing for >Brevard County. Living in a more temperate zone of the world, pray tell what manufactured housing might mean. -- 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. Housing that is manufactured off-site and shipped to the location, sometimes with additional assembly on-site (picture shipping two halves of a house and joining it at the site on which it will reside permanently). The structure is built with metal not wood and they don't cost as much as traditional housing built with wood (makes them popular to retirees that want to cash in their home's equity). Some manufactured housing is built on steel beams and axles so they aren't restricted to one location and can be moved as needed. These are typically anchored to the ground but still tend to have structural issues in high winds. Although frankly, the winds in a hurricane can be a challenge to any building that's not built like a bunker. Karen > > I told him I checked the weather for their area and > >there's a mandatory evacuation order for all manufactured housing for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. >Housing that is manufactured off-site and shipped to the location, sometimes >with additional assembly on-site (picture shipping two halves of a house and >joining it at the site on which it will reside permanently). The structure >is built with metal not wood and they don't cost as much as traditional >housing built with wood (makes them popular to retirees that want to cash in >their home's equity). Are these restricted to specific parts of the USA given that metal structures would result in greater extremes of inside temperature - or am I wrong? -- 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. Not to my knowledge. While they are more energy efficient than they used to be, AFAIK the energy efficiency is still pretty sucky. (Any one out there that lives in manufactured housing, please speak up if I'm wrong) It's generally one of those pay now or pay later decisions. Lower price tag but higher monthly energy bills doesn't seem like much of a price break to me. But in southern areas like the Gulf Coast, they are popular. they may be further north, but I could see heating one might be more difficult than cooling one. Check out "manufactured homes" on Google if you want pics. Karen > Are these restricted to specific parts of the USA given that metal structures > would result in greater extremes of inside temperature - or am I wrong? > > -- > 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. >Not to my knowledge. While they are more energy efficient than they used to >be, AFAIK the energy efficiency is still pretty sucky. (Any one out there [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Check out "manufactured homes" on Google if you want pics. Thanks! Rather plain - especially in a crowd - not too bad looking but could do with some vines, hedges and trees :-) What makes them popular, the price or.... Are they mostly rented properties or owned by the residents? I should mention I'm coming from a mild mediteranian climate with nice warm summers, so my questions are for interest. I doubt I'll ever get to the USA; not prejudice, just not that high on my objectives. Snow, verb; reason to stay in bed! :-) -- 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. > Are they mostly rented properties or owned by the residents? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. The doublewide that my mother owns is on a foundation. It withstood hurricanes Frances, Jeanne and Wilma without any repairs between hurricanes. Think about it....How many stick build homes can go down the road at 60+ Miles Per Hour? Hurricane Wilma had wind gusts up to 90 MPH in the area where this house is located. Last year the houses on both sides of my mother's were totally ripped apart by hurricane Jeanne and we figure the fact that she had a new roof saved her house. Insurance has already paid quite a bit more than we ever thought the place would bring and because it's livable it's being sold for 5K and it has a buyer. I was mainly concerned about the house being weakened by previous hurricanes but it held it's own this time. I haven't called down there since Monday the 24th because I'm taking a break from my brother's crap. Hopefully they have power now but frankly I don't care. Mom won't know the difference and the weather's been good. It's my bro's prob. and he hasn't called me. I have an internet friend who I met on a community forum site last year after Jeanne hit. She took pictures of the house and e-mailed them to me so we would know the damage then. I messaged her last Monday and she told me about the wind gusts. All in all I would say that manufactured housing that's not on a foundation and/or hasn't been kept up would be suspect in a Category 1 or 2 hurricane therefore the evacuation order. In answer to your question my mother owns the house and rents the property on which it sits. But many people own the property and the house. I lived in a manufactured home several years ago here in Indiana. Put it over a basement on property I owned --never any problems.......June I'm not sure why you don't know about them, Anthony. I looked and found them in Australia for sale. You might want to check out this website, it shows several all around Australia. http://www.seethepic.com/ Doesn't exactly look like it's a uniquely American thing to me. Patty > >Not to my knowledge. While they are more energy efficient than they used to > >be, AFAIK the energy efficiency is still pretty sucky. (Any one out there [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. >I'm not sure why you don't know about them, Anthony. I looked and found >them in Australia for sale. You might want to check out this website, it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Doesn't exactly look like it's a uniquely American thing to me. Well, us southerners don't really regard Queenslanders Australian. g,d&r -- 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. >>I'm not sure why you don't know about them, Anthony. I looked and found >>them in Australia for sale. You might want to check out this website, it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > g,d&r Only 5 or 6 of those are in Queensland, the rest (40-odd) are in NSW (Southerly Australia for those unfamiliar with geography) SignatureTumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com >Only 5 or 6 of those are in Queensland, the rest (40-odd) are in NSW >(Southerly Australia for those unfamiliar with geography) I never spotted you as being from Queensland :-) -- 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. I live in one that is 4 years old in the ski resort area of So. Calif. This one is very efficient. It is designed to handle heavy snow on roof and is insulated well all over. I have a double wide and heating in winter runs about $60 a month. LindaJean > Not to my knowledge. While they are more energy efficient than they used to > be, AFAIK the energy efficiency is still pretty sucky. (Any one out there [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Karen We lived in a double wide "mobile" home in Florida for 11 years, and we couldn't complain about our power bill. We had all electric (it's safer for old folks). We had more storage room there with two bedrooms than I have now in my house with three bedrooms. And my kitchen was much nicer than the one I have now. Gwen > Not to my knowledge. While they are more energy efficient than they used > to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> -- >> 2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2. That's one thing I've noticed about the manufactured homes I've been in -- the space is better organized and there is more storage space than in most traditional homes. I look at the closet space in my house and think "a man must have designed this!" :-) Karen > We lived in a double wide "mobile" home in Florida for 11 years, and we > couldn't complain about our power bill. We had all electric (it's safer for > old folks). We had more storage room there with two bedrooms than I have > now in my house with three bedrooms. And my kitchen was much nicer than the > one I have now. > Gwen > That's one thing I've noticed about the manufactured homes I've been in -- > the space is better organized and there is more storage space than in most [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Karen I have a friend who lives in a manufactured home and I observed the same thing. Better use of space, functionality and practicality all combined. She has a really nice place by anyones standards. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >> We lived in a double wide "mobile" home in Florida for 11 years, and we >> couldn't complain about our power bill. We had all electric (it's safer [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> one I have now. >> Gwen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 9:53am From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) That's one thing I've noticed about the manufactured homes I've been in -- the space is better organized and there is more storage space than in most traditional homes. I look at the closet space in my house and think "a man must have designed this!" :-) Karen Ronny: Oh! Oh my,now that just hurts! :-) LoL Just remembering lately that,years and years ago,a family up the road from us had a new prebuilt house moved onto their place. Seems it must of been prewired or the guy could of known how to do that himself? But I know they put in the insulation,sheetrock and finished the house and it looked extra nice. Never will forget that guys wife. Turned out she tried to crawl in bed with her brother-in-law while her husband was off on the road working. Then her husband died a few years after they moved in that house,I was 17 or so years old,took an older neighbor lady up to their place to take the family some food before the funeral. Family in the living room and the "grieving" widow came and talked to us in the kitchen. Crazy fool woman grabbed my hand right in front of the older neighbor,pressed it up against one of her breasts and held it there for at least 5 minutes! Made me mad at her and I wouldn't of even been interested in her if I had of been heterosexual! LoL BTW,isn't this June's thread that we're taking all around the block and back?! LoL ----------- "Gwen Love" <cglghl@knology.net> wrote in message news:1d428$4362d8ee$45491df5$9489@KNOLOGY.NET... We lived in a double wide "mobile" home in Florida for 11 years, and we couldn't complain about our power bill. We had all electric (it's safer for old folks). We had more storage room there with two bedrooms than I have now in my house with three bedrooms. And my kitchen was much nicer than the one I have now. Gwen > Re: Oh Brother! > Ronny: >> > BTW,isn't this June's thread that we're taking all around the block and > back?! LoL Yep we've been all over world with this thread. It's kinda like a paper in wind... You never know how it's going bend or where it's going to land. Makes it more interesting tho......June That's one of the things that makes this NG so friendly. Good place to pick up ALZ info and you might enjoy a good natter on the way. Karen > Yep we've been all over world with this thread. It's kinda like a paper in > wind... You never know how it's going bend or where it's going to land. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > BTW,isn't this June's thread that we're taking all around the block and > > back?! LoL Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 11:23pm (CST+1) From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) That's one of the things that makes this NG so friendly. Good place to pick up ALZ info and you might enjoy a good natter on the way. Karen Ronny: And I do so love a good natter! LoL I laugh at that;but at the sametime I'm completely serious about it too. At times I can just think of so many things to talk about. :-) And I love it when others are the same way! And hey,the way I see it is that it's just fine if I bring up something and someone isn't interested in that particular subject. Don't expect them to be as I'm not interested in everything every person brings up either. But I love people having varied interests and that so even when I'm not really into a particular subject. That's just all a part of life and all of that's good!:-) Plus,as we all know,we need stress breaks. We all just need a place to go and do and say and not have to be concerned about what others will say or think of all that. It's just important to have such. ------------- "June" <ljbart@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6uR8f.492193$x96.438952@attbi_s72... Yep we've been all over world with this thread. It's kinda like a paper in wind... You never know how it's going bend or where it's going to land. Makes it more interesting tho......June "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:994-4363CC95-731@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Ronny: BTW,isn't this June's thread that we're taking all around the block and back?! LoL Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 9:05pm (CST+6) From: ljbart@hotmail.com (June) "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:994-4363CC95-731@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Ronny: BTW,isn't this June's thread that we're taking all around the block and back?! LoL June: Yep we've been all over world with this thread. It's kinda like a paper in wind... You never know how it's going bend or where it's going to land. Makes it more interesting tho......June Ronny: June,i'm glad you have that way of looking at it! :-) I've met up with a very,very few people in other groups who get so bent out of shape if the thread they start varies by even a little. Makes me wonder if such people are pretty high strung and or controlling in their everyday life? Me,I go with the flow :-) and even I don't know what idea is going to pop in my head next that I want to mention and talk about! LoL Seems to me and as you said too,that just makes life more interesting! LoL And to me,my way of rolling thinking is a stress breaker for me as well and I figure I need all the stress breakers I can get! LoL And yeah,I really feel for you with the present situation. Haven't felt much like responding to it though. And one problem I have is the advice I might of given you if I had of spoke what I thought about your brothers actions and all. Well,I was thinking more along the lines of it seemed to me that in this situation somebody, brother,needed his butt kicked! :-) LoL It's just I think such at times;but I sort of hate to put it so plainly sometimes! LoL heck normal conversation wanders so why shouldn't a thread ;-) Linda Jean "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:29938-43658C66-342@storefull- Ronny: June,i'm glad you have that way of looking at it! :-) I've met up with a very,very few people in other groups who get so bent out of shape if the thread they start varies by even a little. Makes me wonder if such people are pretty high strung and or controlling in their everyday life? Me,I go with the flow :-) and even I don't know what idea is going to pop in my head next that I want to mention and talk about! LoL Seems to me and as you said too,that just makes life more interesting! LoL And to me,my way of rolling thinking is a stress breaker for me as well and I figure I need all the stress breakers I can get! LoL And yeah,I really feel for you with the present situation. Haven't felt much like responding to it though. And one problem I have is the advice I might of given you if I had of spoke what I thought about your brothers actions and all. Well,I was thinking more along the lines of it seemed to me that in this situation somebody, brother,needed his butt kicked! :-) LoL It's just I think such at times;but I sort of hate to put it so plainly sometimes! LoL Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 1:26pm (CST+6) From: lppnp@xyahoo.com (LJ) heck normal conversation wanders so why shouldn't a thread ;-) Linda Jean Ronny: Amen to that! :-) {BG} --------- "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:29938-43658C66-342@storefull- Ronny: June,i'm glad you have that way of looking at it! :-) I've met up with a very,very few people in other groups who get so bent out of shape if the thread they start varies by even a little. Makes me wonder if such people are pretty high strung and or controlling in their everyday life? Me,I go with the flow :-) and even I don't know what idea is going to pop in my head next that I want to mention and talk about! LoL Seems to me and as you said too,that just makes life more interesting! LoL And to me,my way of rolling thinking is a stress breaker for me as well and I figure I need all the stress breakers I can get! LoL And yeah,I really feel for you with the present situation. Haven't felt much like responding to it though. And one problem I have is the advice I might of given you if I had of spoke what I thought about your brothers actions and all. Well,I was thinking more along the lines of it seemed to me that in this situation somebody, brother,needed his butt kicked! :-) LoL It's just I think such at times;but I sort of hate to put it so plainly sometimes! LoL Re: Oh Brother! brother,needed his butt kicked! :-) LoL It's just I think such at times;but I sort of hate to put it so plainly sometimes! LoL Ronny...Believe me I sure wish I could get his butt kicked but with him it would be a full time job. It took quite a few threats just to get him to sell the house and not leave my mother down there alone. Nasty stuff this denial. He still thinks she can make her own decisions no matter much I keep telling him that she has a brain disease. There's more to be said but I keep telling myself that at least he does get involved with her and takes care of her everyday needs. Takes her out to eat and takes her along anytime she wants to go when visiting friends and family. He does treat her with dignity. I try to remember the positive things even when he needs a butt kicking. My other brother doesn't want to be involved and does nothing.......June > Re: Oh Brother! > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > he needs a butt kicking. My other brother doesn't want to be involved and > does nothing.......June That is sad, June. It would be nice if the all the family were cooperating about her care. But on the other hand there are people who have this illness and have absolutely no one who cares at all. I feel really sorry for those individuals. It is an awful illness but if there is someone who cares even a little it eases things. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') One thing I think is really sad is that the paperwork I've had to deal with is sometimes difficult for me. How bad does it have to get for someone that doesn't have family to do it for them? It seems like the government and insurance companies make it deliberately more complicated than it has to be. Karen > That is sad, June. It would be nice if the all the family were cooperating > about her care. But on the other hand there are people who have this > illness and have absolutely no one who cares at all. I feel really sorry > for those individuals. It is an awful illness but if there is someone who > cares even a little it eases things. > One thing I think is really sad is that the paperwork I've had to deal > with [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Karen It's awful, that is for sure! And we had to fill all that stuff out when we were totally both burned-out from caregiving. Fortunately our lawyer helped us. We were mentally and physically both exhausted by then. I feel pretty sure there must be some shortcuts when someone is all alone, but if they can get the information from the family, and there is family to get it from, they do so. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') I sure agree Linda Jean > One thing I think is really sad is that the paperwork I've had to deal with > is sometimes difficult for me. How bad does it have to get for someone that > doesn't have family to do it for them? It seems like the government and > insurance companies make it deliberately more complicated than it has to be. > > Karen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 1:29pm (CST+6) From: ljbart@hotmail.com (June) "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:29938-43658C66-342@storefull-3337.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! brother,needed his butt kicked! :-) LoL It's just I think such at times;but I sort of hate to put it so plainly sometimes! LoL June: Ronny...Believe me I sure wish I could get his butt kicked but with him it would be a full time job. It took quite a few threats just to get him to sell the house and not leave my mother down there alone. Nasty stuff this denial. He still thinks she can make her own decisions no matter much I keep telling him that she has a brain disease. There's more to be said but I keep telling myself that at least he does get involved with her and takes care of her everyday needs. Takes her out to eat and takes her along anytime she wants to go when visiting friends and family. He does treat her with dignity. I try to remember the positive things even when he needs a butt kicking. My other brother doesn't want to be involved and does nothing.......June Ronny11/1: It is good that you also see and talk about the positives on your brothers side. :-) Even when the other is driving you nutty, it's good that you can see both sides! :-) P.S. Now,when,where and how are we going to kick the butt of your brother who does nothing?! :-) LoL Ronny Re: Oh Brother! Ronny11/1: It is good that you also see and talk about the positives on your brothers side. :-) Even when the other is driving you nutty, it's good that you can see both sides! :-) P.S. Now,when,where and how are we going to kick the butt of your brother who does nothing?! :-) LoL Ronny Men are so dense. As my daughter says "You gotta pick your battles." This way I'm only a part time bitch. LOL.....June Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2005, 4:26am (CST+6) From: ljbart@hotmail.com (June) "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:21515-43682A2D-573@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Ronny11/1: It is good that you also see and talk about the positives on your brothers side. :-) Even when the other is driving you nutty, it's good that you can see both sides! :-) P.S. Now,when,where and how are we going to kick the butt of your brother who does nothing?! :-) LoL Ronny June: Men are so dense. As my daughter says "You gotta pick your battles." This way I'm only a part time bitch. LOL.....June Ronny: That's a good one! ROTFLOL! LoL And though Karen might wonder at me saying this, :-) I do have to agree in general that men can be very dense about somethings and at sometimes! You see,I can say this because I know myself too well! LoL Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2005, 4:26am (CST+6) From: ljbart@hotmail.com (June) "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:21515-43682A2D-573@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Ronny11/1: ----snip---- June: Men are so dense. As my daughter says "You gotta pick your battles." This way I'm only a part time bitch. LOL.....June Ronny: That's a good one! ROTFLOL! LoL And though Karen might wonder at me saying this, :-) I do have to agree in general that men can be very dense about somethings and at sometimes! You see,I can say this because I know myself too well! LoL Karen: So Ronny, will I be in trouble with you if I give a big AMEN!? <grin> Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2005, 10:03pm From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:22426-4368CB31-20@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2005, 4:26am (CST+6) From: ljbart@hotmail.com (June) "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:21515-43682A2D-573@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Ronny11/1: ----snip---- June: Men are so dense. As my daughter says "You gotta pick your battles." This way I'm only a part time bitch. LOL.....June Ronny: That's a good one! ROTFLOL! LoL And though Karen might wonder at me saying this, :-) I do have to agree in general that men can be very dense about somethings and at sometimes! You see,I can say this because I know myself too well! LoL Karen: So Ronny, will I be in trouble with you if I give a big AMEN!? <grin> Ronny: Nah,ya won't bother me doing that Karen 'cause I'm in a pretty good mood tonight! LoL Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2005, 4:26am (CST+6) From: ljbart@hotmail.com (June) "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:21515-43682A2D-573@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Ronny11/1: It is good that you also see and talk about the positives on your brothers side. :-) Even when the other is driving you nutty, it's good that you can see both sides! :-) P.S. Now,when,where and how are we going to kick the butt of your brother who does nothing?! :-) LoL Ronny June: Men are so dense. As my daughter says "You gotta pick your battles." This way I'm only a part time bitch. LOL.....June Ronny: That's a good one! ROTFLOL! LoL And though Karen might wonder at me saying this, :-) I do have to agree in general that men can be very dense about somethings and at sometimes! You see,I can say this because I know myself too well! LoL Opps... Didn't mean to step on toes. There are exceptions to every rule......June > Re: Oh Brother! > Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2005, 4:26am (CST+6) [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Opps... Didn't mean to step on toes. There are exceptions to every > rule......June Aww, go ahead and step on them, June -- he's used to it (I already did). :-) Karen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 9:53am (CST+1) From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) That's one thing I've noticed about the manufactured homes I've been in -- the space is better organized and there is more storage space than in most traditional homes. I look at the closet space in my house and think "a man must have designed this!" :-) Karen Ronny: Now my getting back to and being serious on this! :-) {BG} But I was just thinking on this today. My bedroom and what used to be another bedroom,share a common wall and closet. The closet being about 2/3's of the entire wall length and with a door on each end in the respective bedrooms. And we really haven't used that closet in years. Lots of Mom's old clothes in there, dresses and pantsuits that she will never wear again. And on the other end are boxes of various things that we haven't used for years! And on the end,up above and by the outside wall is our entrance to the attic. And to me this entire closet just wan't laid out right at all! So what I'm considering,at least on one side,is taking off the old painted sheetrock wall, reframing a bit and putting in something like bifold doors. I just like that idea because then I could better/easier get to all parts of that closet. Or I could put in a couple of bifold doors on one side and a couple on the other side,for the other room and maybe make a partition in the middle of the closet? Just thinking of various ways I might change it to make it more accesable and or useable! ------------- "Gwen Love" <cglghl@knology.net> wrote in message news:1d428$4362d8ee$45491df5$9489@KNOLOGY.NET... We lived in a double wide "mobile" home in Florida for 11 years, and we couldn't complain about our power bill. We had all electric (it's safer for old folks). We had more storage room there with two bedrooms than I have now in my house with three bedrooms. And my kitchen was much nicer than the one I have now. Gwen Ronny, Make it bi-fold mirrored doors and you've just enlarged the visual space of the room too. Karen > Re: Oh Brother! > Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 9:53am (CST+1) [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > than the one I have now. > Gwen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 7:21am From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) Ronny, Make it bi-fold mirrored doors and you've just enlarged the visual space of the room too. Karen Ronny: I like that idea;but I doubt I could afford such and I'm not sure I would want to see that much of myself too much of the time?! LoL And afraid that Mom or I might accidentally break such too! Just did a quick,quick search at Google on bifold door prices. Need to check close to home at Lowe's,Home Depot and some lumber yards. Also considering that I might be able to build plain bifold or sliding doors? Something to think about. ------- "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:29937-436594E2-907@storefull-3337.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2005, 9:53am (CST+1) From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) That's one thing I've noticed about the manufactured homes I've been in -- the space is better organized and there is more storage space than in most traditional homes. I look at the closet space in my house and think "a man must have designed this!" :-) Karen Ronny: Now my getting back to and being serious on this! :-) {BG} But I was just thinking on this today. My bedroom and what used to be another bedroom,share a common wall and closet. The closet being about 2/3's of the entire wall length and with a door on each end in the respective bedrooms. And we really haven't used that closet in years. Lots of Mom's old clothes in there, dresses and pantsuits that she will never wear again. And on the other end are boxes of various things that we haven't used for years! And on the end,up above and by the outside wall is our entrance to the attic. And to me this entire closet just wan't laid out right at all! So what I'm considering,at least on one side,is taking off the old painted sheetrock wall, reframing a bit and putting in something like bifold doors. I just like that idea because then I could better/easier get to all parts of that closet. Or I could put in a couple of bifold doors on one side and a couple on the other side,for the other room and maybe make a partition in the middle of the closet? Just thinking of various ways I might change it to make it more accesable and or useable! ------------- "Gwen Love" <cglghl@knology.net> wrote in message news:1d428$4362d8ee$45491df5$9489@KNOLOGY.NET... We lived in a double wide "mobile" home in Florida for 11 years, and we couldn't complain about our power bill. We had all electric (it's safer for old folks). We had more storage room there with two bedrooms than I have now in my house with three bedrooms. And my kitchen was much nicer than the one I have now. Gwen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 12:03pm (CDT+13) From: astech@iinet.net.au (Anthony Shipley) "June" <ljbart@hotmail.com> [WA] wrote: I told him I checked the weather for their area and there's a mandatory evacuation order for all manufactured housing for Brevard County. Anthony: Living in a more temperate zone of the world, pray tell what manufactured housing might mean. Ronny: Karen,told about the offsite manufactured houses;but I was also thinking about this metal house they built a few years ago in a nearby town. Saw them putting it up from the concrete base up-everytime I went by there to go shopping. Interesting building-all metal frame and such on concrete. Metal tin roof and all. Really quite a large,fancy looking house they built. And during the building part I did note that they put a lot of insulation between the metal rafters and in the side walls of the house. And onething about metal house like that,the owners won't have to worry about termites! LoL Amen on the termites, Ronny! I've seen some of the metal and concrete homes that looked nice. Anthony, the usual reasons are (from what I can tell) is either A) You can sell an "empty-nest" house for a large sum and buy a manufactured home for a much smaller sum and locate it in a less expensive area to generate retirement cash to live on. B) you can move your home, if needed (only applies to the one's that remain mobile) C) You get to experience the joys of home ownership but don't have to shell out the cash for a standard "built on site" house. I'm sure there's more, that's just what I've seen. In some areas, there are mobile home parks with mass collections of manufactured homes geared totally to the senior citizen crowd. They seem to be most popular with the guys from colder climes that like to go south for the winter. Karen Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2005, 12:03pm (CDT+13) Ronny: Karen,told about the offsite manufactured houses;but I was also thinking about this metal house they built a few years ago in a nearby town. Saw them putting it up from the concrete base up-everytime I went by there to go shopping. Interesting building-all metal frame and such on concrete. Metal tin roof and all. Really quite a large,fancy looking house they built. And during the building part I did note that they put a lot of insulation between the metal rafters and in the side walls of the house. And onething about metal house like that,the owners won't have to worry about termites! LoL Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 7:14am (CST+1) From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) Amen on the termites, Ronny! I've seen some of the metal and concrete homes that looked nice. (snip) Ronny: I think I've talked in here about that back room of ours that has been a junk/storeroom for so long and that I cleaned out this year? Well,when I was cleaning everything out,I found termites in places in that floor! :-( The only good part is that it's a simple floor in one small room. When my Dad and an uncle built the 3 rooms on back of the house years ago,they only put in what most people would call a wooden subfloor of 1x2 tongue and groove planking over 2x6's. So after cleaning up that room I decided the whole floor needs to come out and that's not a bad deal since I know exactly what I want to do with that room. More on that later when I'm feeling better. :-) Ronny, here's hoping you don't have a swarm in your house come spring. Termite swarms aren't dangerous but they're very irritating and I haven't a clue of how an ALZ person would handle such. Karen > Re: Oh Brother! > Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 7:14am (CST+1) [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > deal since I know exactly what I want to do with that room. More on > that later when I'm feeling better. :-) Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 7:23am From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) Ronny, here's hoping you don't have a swarm in your house come spring. Termite swarms aren't dangerous but they're very irritating and I haven't a clue of how an ALZ person would handle such. Karen Ronny: I wouldn't either! I remember a good number of years ago that we had a couple of swarms here in another part of the house. Had to do some repair work then and treatment. And like you say,the termites aren't dangerous to a person;but I never will forget them getting on me as they swarmed! Didn't hurt me at all;but I sure didn't like it! LoL ---------- "Ronny TX" <Acts17-11@webtv.net> wrote in message news:29937-43658ED5-905@storefull-3337.bay.webtv.net... Re: Oh Brother! Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2005, 7:14am (CST+1) From: kk5151@hotmail.com (Karen) Amen on the termites, Ronny! I've seen some of the metal and concrete homes that looked nice. (snip) Ronny: I think I've talked in here about that back room of ours that has been a junk/storeroom for so long and that I cleaned out this year? Well,when I was cleaning everything out,I found termites in places in that floor! :-( The only good part is that it's a simple floor in one small room. When my Dad and an uncle built the 3 rooms on back of the house years ago,they only put in what most people would call a wooden subfloor of 1x2 tongue and groove planking over 2x6's. So after cleaning up that room I decided the whole floor needs to come out and that's not a bad deal since I know exactly what I want to do with that room. More on that later when I'm feeling better. :-) |
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