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taina - 17 Aug 2005 05:09 GMT
My mom is 55 and was diagnosed with early onset of AD in January.  And
I'm losing it!!  I'm 23 and for the most part everything has fallen on
my shoulders.  Or at least it feels that way.  I've got an older
sister, but she's incredibly unreliable.  I find myself being angry
with my mom and I know it's not her fault and saying it's not fair
won't make it go away...but I can't help the rage everytime I'm dealing
with a new situation.  I'm going crazy.   I've decided to find a
support group and some chat rooms on the subject....at least to find
out if I'm the only one out there that feels like this.   My mom is
having a DNA test in a few weeks to see if she has the genetic
disformity for AD.  Perhaps my anger is from the fear that I might be
in my mom's shoes someday or perhaps it's just from the fact that I
wasn't ready to become a caregiver so young when I still need my
mom...I don't know.

Anyway, if anyone's had to deal with a parent being diagnosed at a
young age or have been diagnosed young, I'd really appreciate some
perspective.
genileuqcaj@aol.com - 17 Aug 2005 05:56 GMT
I'm 35 and taking care of my mom, who is 80 (I was a surprise!).  I
understand your frustration in feeling alone in your situation.  I
don't know anyone my age who isn't totally preoccupied with their
children.  Their mothers go to lunch with them, help them pick
maternity clothes, blah blah blah.

On Thursday I will be attending my first meeting of Adult Children of
Early-Onset Dementia (or something like that).  It's supposed to be for
people in their 20's and 30's.  Check to see if there's one like it in
your area.  I'm hoping it will help me.  After all, the group already
existed.  It was not created for me.  So there are others in my
situation.  

You are not alone.
Evelyn Ruut - 17 Aug 2005 14:15 GMT
> My mom is 55 and was diagnosed with early onset of AD in January.  And
> I'm losing it!!  I'm 23 and for the most part everything has fallen on
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> young age or have been diagnosed young, I'd really appreciate some
> perspective.

Hi Taina,

Welcome to the group.  I am sure that you will find a great deal of help
here if you remain.    There is no doubt that having a mother develop this
disease while she is still young, and while you yourself are still young, is
a terribly unfair situation.    At your age you might be looking forward to
having your mom be supportive of you for at least a few more years, and here
you are having to take care of her instead.

According to a very wise man I know, he told me that only compassion can
combat anger.  Anger is a caustic emotion that rots the vessel that carries
it, and you need to be on your feet and functioning at your best throughout
this journey.

So it might be helpful for you to regard your own anger as "the enemy," as
much as Alzheimers disease itself is "the enemy."   It can cause you to feel
guilt, it can make you unhappy, it can make those around you unhappy.   So
it only makes sense to try and NOT indulge your feelings of anger if at all
possible.

Sometimes anger can be constructive, in that it can spur you on to action,
but in the case of this awful illness, I think there is little benefit to
it.   It won't help you and it won't help your mom, and those are the two
people most concerned, in your situation.

Knowledge is the most important thing for you right now.  You need to learn
absolutely all you can possibly learn about the illness, and what you can
expect, and techniques to deal with the frustration and the depression and
the feelings of helplessness and anger that invitably will arise.   You need
to know what legal and medical help is available and how to work towards
getting it.

This is a difficult journey for your mom, and making it easier for her will
also make it easier for you.

It has been said that in a case of Alzheimers in a family, one does all ones
grieving and crying at the beginning, and I think that is true.   When my
mother in law passed over on April 23rd of this year, we cried, but only a
little.  We were so glad that her suffering was over at last.

Feel free to come here to ask questions, to vent, or to share.
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Best Regards,
Evelyn

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Gwen Love - 17 Aug 2005 19:15 GMT
Taina, I'm sorry you find yourself in such a tragic situation.  Please get a
copy of "The 36 Hour Day" by Mace & Rabins.  It will  really help you to
understand and know how to react.
Gwen

> My mom is 55 and was diagnosed with early onset of AD in January.  And
> I'm losing it!!  I'm 23 and for the most part everything has fallen on
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> young age or have been diagnosed young, I'd really appreciate some
> perspective.
LindaJean - 18 Aug 2005 16:39 GMT
Hi, I am new reading in here because it looks as if my husband age 56 is
deteriorating. He has not yet been diagnosed. I am trying to get him to his
doctor. I can understand your frustration. We have only been married a year
and the strain of having to repeat myself so much and to keep reminding him
where we keep food just wears me out. This group seems very helpful. I wish
you luck
LJ
> My mom is 55 and was diagnosed with early onset of AD in January.  And
> I'm losing it!!  I'm 23 and for the most part everything has fallen on
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> young age or have been diagnosed young, I'd really appreciate some
> perspective.
Carolyn - 20 Aug 2005 20:39 GMT
I just found this group today and have also been reading the messages.
In my case it's my 94 year old mother. I'm 75. Fortunately she lives
next door so I can check on her many times a day.  This isn't how I
expected to  be spending my Golden Years but I've learned to take it one
day at a time. She's been on a downslide since my brother passed away in
April. I'm hoping to get a Durable Power of Attorney this week so I can
handle her finances. I'm on all of her bank accounts and CD's but the
CD's only go to me when she passes. I'll need to access that money to
pay for her care should she have to go in an assisted living facility or
nursing home.
Carolyn
Evelyn Ruut - 20 Aug 2005 21:57 GMT
>I just found this group today and have also been reading the messages.
> In my case it's my 94 year old mother. I'm 75. Fortunately she lives
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> nursing home.
> Carolyn

Welcome Carolyn.

My dad is almost your mother's age, and although he doesn't have alzheimers
disease, he does have some deficits due to arterial blockages.

Good luck in getting the paperwork you need.
Feel free to come and post here anytime.

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Best Regards,
Evelyn

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June - 21 Aug 2005 01:26 GMT
Hi Carolyn....Sounds like you're doing what you need to do.   My husband is
72 and handling his mother's finances she's 101 and slipping fast.   She was
still bowling and was still very active and seemed quite normal when she
fell at home in March of this year.   Within a week she was in a nursing
home and now just a few months later she's really out of it.   She talks
mostly gibberish now and no it's not the drugs because the family stopped
all drugs several weeks ago thinking that was the problem.   One of aides in
the NH said that she has never seen dementia progress this fast.   We can
only assume the progression is so fast because of her age.  Nothing has been
diagnosed.  Her house had to be sold and her belongings auctioned off.   Her
oldest daughter is 81 and does what she can to help but her health isn't all
that good and has macular degeneration.   The up side of this is the fact
that my MIL had 100 good years....

>I just found this group today and have also been reading the messages.
> In my case it's my 94 year old mother. I'm 75. Fortunately she lives
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> nursing home.
> Carolyn
Dennis P. Harris - 21 Aug 2005 07:00 GMT
> Within a week she was in a nursing
> home and now just a few months later she's really out of it.   She talks
> mostly gibberish now and no it's not the drugs because the family stopped
> all drugs several weeks ago thinking that was the problem.   One of aides in
> the NH said that she has never seen dementia progress this fast.  

at her age, it may be partly due to circulatory problems since
she can't walk any more.  the exercise and activity probably
helped to keep partial arterial blockages clear until it stopped.
she may have had some strokes or TIAs.
June - 21 Aug 2005 18:32 GMT
> at her age, it may be partly due to circulatory problems since
> she can't walk any more.  the exercise and activity probably
> helped to keep partial arterial blockages clear until it stopped.
> she may have had some strokes or TIAs.

Hi Dennis.....What you say makes a lot of sense but I guess we'll never know
for sure.   Most doctors really don't know how to treat someone of my MIL's
age.   I remember when she went to the sports doctor a few years ago because
her knee was bothering her and interfered with her bowling.   He said I've
never treated a 93 year old woman before and really didn't know what to do.
At least he gave her some exercises and she was soon back to bowling.   She
really got a kick out of going.   While in the waiting room she overheard
the nurses and staff trying to figure what woman in the waiting room was 93.
Nobody had seen her with grey hair until just a few months ago in the NH.
.....June
Evelyn Ruut - 21 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT
>> at her age, it may be partly due to circulatory problems since
>> she can't walk any more.  the exercise and activity probably
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> Nobody had seen her with grey hair until just a few months ago in the NH.
> .....June

June, it is often a problem that doctors, when confronted with an aging
patient, often fail to look for or test for all the various things they
would do with a younger patient.   In some cases this is definitely the
better course, like for instance my mother in law who had alzheimers disease
developed pancreatic cancer.   The recovery rate for that particular cancer
is very bad anyway.   On top of the alzheimers, it was a blessing in
disguise in a way, because a prolonged suffering death from that illness is
not one of the better ways to go.   In a younger person they might treat it
aggressively with chemo etc.   In her case, it was not the thing to do as it
would just prolong her misery and she wouldn't even understand the treatment
or anything.

But I would definitely might say that a person who has been physically and
mentally healthy for all those years, suddenly showing some sort of symptom
or other, ought to be very carefully diagnosed, so you know what is what
before making decisions about not to treat.

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Evelyn

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The Turd Burglar - 18 Aug 2005 22:51 GMT
taina GET A CLUE.

TAKE A HINT AND TAKE A HIKE.
mick_476@comcast.net - 06 Sep 2005 05:51 GMT
I am 33 and know exactly what you are talking about! IT SUCKS being as
young as we are and having this kind of responsibility. It is probably
much worse for us because we are young and have so much we still want
to do.

That's why I say that parents who have children later in life are
doing an injustice to the child.

>My mom is 55 and was diagnosed with early onset of AD in January.  And
>I'm losing it!!  I'm 23 and for the most part everything has fallen on
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>young age or have been diagnosed young, I'd really appreciate some
>perspective.
Anthony Shipley - 06 Sep 2005 06:44 GMT
>I am 33 and know exactly what you are talking about! IT SUCKS being as
>young as we are and having this kind of responsibility. It is probably
>much worse for us because we are young and have so much we still want
>to do.

You have to be philosophic about such things.

Many people around the world are far worse us whether it be carer, somebody with
A.D., friend or family member.

At 33 you can rejoice that you didn't die at 20...

--
2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2.
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 06 Sep 2005 12:25 GMT
I hate to be blunt, but give me a flipping break. My parents had me
when they were in their late 20's. My mother died at 47 and my dad at
63. Both gone by the time I was 34. My FIL was already gone when I got
married at 31, and then my MIL went into her slow decline and was dead
from AD by the time I was 42.

Stuff happens. Life isn't fair. No time is a convenient time to deal
with illness, death and disability.

33 is not a kid - or maybe in today's world we want to stay adolescent
until we're 50.

M.
Evelyn Ruut - 06 Sep 2005 13:35 GMT
>I am 33 and know exactly what you are talking about! IT SUCKS being as
> young as we are and having this kind of responsibility. It is probably
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> That's why I say that parents who have children later in life are
> doing an injustice to the child.

Mick, you are wasting your time being angry and seeking to blame someone.
Life sucks in general.  Nobody knows when they are going to die.   I am
going to be 64 years old in two weeks and my father is 93 years old and
still going strong.    Nobody knows who is going to get alzheimers and who
isn't.  Nobody knows who is going to die young or live a long time.    At 33
I had three little kids..... talk about being tied down with responsibility!

Quit wasting time on anger and get going.   If you have the mental energy to
waste, get on the phone and start raising some resources to get you a break.
Look into support groups, adult daycare centers, get a granny sitter or two
lined up so you can get out.   Better yet, try and get her moved into an
assisted living so you can be more free.    You aren't cut out for this
caregiving job and you are going to need more help.

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Evelyn

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Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 06 Sep 2005 14:08 GMT
I guess what really gets me is the assumption that people who are
middle aged or older have less on their plates, or have nothing else
they want to do than look after parents or other loved ones.

I did my caregiving for the "older" generation mostly in my 30's and
early 40's. Now I'm pushing 50 up the hill (I'll be 50 in 2006), and
rather than ramping down, my life is more busy and hectic than ever
between family, work, and friends, and I have zillions of things I want
to do and can't get to.  And when I finally get to retire from my
working life, I promise you, I can think of a few things I'd like to do
OTHER than look after sick people.

I also find it irritating that anyone thinks that the timing of
children is totally about the future convenience of the kids as adults
- or that it work out that you can have your kids when you are young is
any kind of guarantee of anything.

I do genealogy as a hobby, and I promise you, the idea that families
neatly and conveniently had their kids in their 20's and then lived to
be healthy elders is one that I've rarely seen in my trees.

In prior generations when there was no (or very unreliable) birth
control and large families were the norm, women kept having kids until
nature turned off the apparatus. My great grandmother, for example, had
10 kids, including twins at 47 and her last baby at 48. And I look at
the lives of my grandparents and parents, and hey, I'm not seeing
anything easy and tidy about the patterns of their lives either, even
with better birth control. Husbands were away at war, times were hard,
early death, illness, disability etc. happened.

Even today - I have many friends who ended up with totally different
families than they expected because of deaths, divorce, remarriages,
delayed marriages, fertility problems and surprise pregancies (one year
I had three friends in their early 40's - two were 43 and one was 44 -
who had additions to their families they weren't anticipating). We
won't talk about adoptions, or having to raise grandkids etc. etc.

M.
Evelyn Ruut - 06 Sep 2005 14:10 GMT
>I guess what really gets me is the assumption that people who are
> middle aged or older have less on their plates, or have nothing else
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>
> M.

I hear you Mary.   Life seldom goes according to any preconceived plans.

I could use some advice as I am trying to put together a geneology for one
branch of my family.   Just got the family bible from 1803 with some (just a
few entries) to connect to, and some information from my elderly uncle that
may help with stuff that has been somewhat vague until just now.

I am quite excited about looking this stuff up!   If you have any good
advice on how best to proceed, please write to me at mama-lion at hvc dot rr
dot com.  I'd much appreciate it.   My return address I use here is munged
to cut the spam factor.
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Evelyn

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Songbird - 06 Sep 2005 14:46 GMT
>I guess what really gets me is the assumption that people who are
> middle aged or older have less on their plates, or have nothing else
> they want to do than look after parents or other loved ones.

Or don't have their own health problems to deal with! I consider myself
relatively healthy (though looking at the meds I have to take every day for
asthma, stomach problems, etc., you might not think so!) and taking care of
my mom for a week wore me out.

No wonder my 70yo Dad can't handle it, though he refuses to admit it. I've
decided I just have to wait til he "hits bottom" in AA parlance.

Songbird
 
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