My father and I have been taking care of my mother, who has had AD for
about four years. He is in good physical health, but I am concerned
about his mental health. He's been more reluctant to go out, either
alone or with family. He's obsessed with Rush Limbaugh (on the radio)
and FoxNews (on tv), and is afraid he will miss something good if he's
not home to witness news the first time it's broadcast. (This is not
meant to be criticism of Limbaugh or FoxNews.) Angry outbursts come
out of nowhere.
I understand that, being in his 70's, he may not be as physically fit
as he once was. I know that he sometimes does not get a full night's
sleep (Mom waking him up in the early hours, wanting to go "home").
But is he just burnt out from taking care of his wife? Or is he
beginning to exhibit symptoms of AD? What concerns me most is his
paranoia about leaving the house. I take my mother out most days for a
few hours, and my father will just putter around the house. At his
age, he's allowed to putter. But he isolates himself every day.
I know it could be depression. But getting him to the doctor's is an
impossible feat, and he would refuse to take any medicine that would be
prescribed. He would even refuse to talk about his stress.
My father has one sister who lives even remotely near us, but she has
her hands full with her own husband. I do have a sister, but she
steadfastly refuses to acknowledge any problems and won't offer any
help.
Anyone have any experience with an overworked caregiver who develops AD
themselves?
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 12 Jul 2005 03:32 GMT
Given that you would be in the soup if he became incapacitated, my
first question is....do you have powers of attorney for him and your
mother, for both financial and personal care decisions? If not, you
really need to get that attended to immediately.
You must be legally ready to step in to look after both of them, since
things can change in a heartbeat.
Certainly, what you describe could be early AD, but as you observe, it
could also be stress. I'd be pursuing written permission to talk to his
doctor - even if at this point, there is no thought of having to
invoke the power of attorney.
Mary G.
Dennis P. Harris - 12 Jul 2005 04:08 GMT
> Anyone have any experience with an overworked caregiver who develops AD
> themselves?
unless he's having obvious cognition or memory problems, it's
probably not AD --- his behavior is typical of someone suffering
from stress and burnout. the fact that he's elderly and stubborn
only makes it worse.
does he have a pastor or priest that he'll listen to? is there
anyone else who can get through to him? a lot of folks have
aversions to putting a loved one with AD into any kind of care,
even day care, when it's the best thing they could do. everyone
needs some downtime and a chance to get away EVERY WEEK (actually
every day), and he's not getting it. he's probably not getting
enough deep REM sleep, either (which usually happens 2-3 hours
into a sleep session).
the problem is that it builds on itself. you might approach him
with the attitude the idea that he either put her in a day care
program or get some daytime respite care because if HE ends up
getting sick or the stress gives him a heart attack he won't be
ANY use to her and she'll have to be placed in a care facility.
Karen - 12 Jul 2005 04:28 GMT
Good point on the REM sleep. It's amazing how irrational people can become
when they are sleep deprived.
Karen
> > Anyone have any experience with an overworked caregiver who develops AD
> > themselves?
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> getting sick or the stress gives him a heart attack he won't be
> ANY use to her and she'll have to be placed in a care facility.
John Inzer - 12 Jul 2005 06:29 GMT
the fact that he's elderly and stubborn
only makes it worse.
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LOL!
I quite enjoy being elderly and stubborn.

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Gwen Love - 12 Jul 2005 13:09 GMT
John, I enjoy being elderly (senior discounts) but I will not admit to being
stubborn!!
Gwen
> the fact that he's elderly and stubborn
> only makes it worse.
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> LOL!
>
> I quite enjoy being elderly and stubborn.
Evelyn Ruut - 12 Jul 2005 14:17 GMT
I'm with John, I admit to both quite openly!
:-)

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> John, I enjoy being elderly (senior discounts) but I will not admit to
> being
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>> I quite enjoy being elderly and stubborn.
Anthony Shipley - 26 Jul 2005 03:49 GMT
>John, I enjoy being elderly (senior discounts) but I will not admit to being
>stubborn!!
Ah, but those 2 exclamation marks let the cat out of the bag, don't they :-p
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Tumbleweed - 12 Jul 2005 07:06 GMT
Exhausted and stressed out, depression sounds much more likely to me. Also,
you dont mention any memory problems, so again, something other than Az
sounds more likely from what you describe.

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> My father and I have been taking care of my mother, who has had AD for
> about four years. He is in good physical health, but I am concerned
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> Anyone have any experience with an overworked caregiver who develops AD
> themselves?
Adelle - 12 Jul 2005 14:53 GMT
The isolating himself and angry outbursts are troubling. But they are early
signs of myriad things, from sensory issues (hearing, sight, balance issues
from ears, arthritis or nerve problems...) to depression to Parkinson's and
so on. It's amorphous and looking into these may not produce anything
concrete.
One thing you can do is start keeping a log of all atypical behavior - a
wobble here, a misheard word there, a blow up.... Maybe a pattern will
emerge that will provide clues as to whether these behaviors are ones to be
concerned about.
Adelle
> My father and I have been taking care of my mother, who has had AD for
> about four years. He is in good physical health, but I am concerned
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> Anyone have any experience with an overworked caregiver who develops AD
> themselves?
genileuqcaj@aol.com - 12 Jul 2005 17:23 GMT
The problem with my father is that he has several hours every afternoon
to himself. It's how he uses this time that worries me. I've offered
to get a sitter for Mom and take him out for dinner or to the movies,
to no avail. It's the isolation that I'm concerned about.
Anthony Shipley - 13 Jul 2005 04:23 GMT
>The problem with my father is that he has several hours every afternoon
>to himself. It's how he uses this time that worries me. I've offered
>to get a sitter for Mom and take him out for dinner or to the movies,
>to no avail. It's the isolation that I'm concerned about.
Long shot....but
I'm in a somewhat similar situation with respect to spare time. I've never
enjoyed gardening but, these days, find pulling up weeds and sweeping up leaves
is quite a good way of passing the time. So much so that, a few weeks ago--if I
haven't already mentioned it, that I swept up all the leaves in the park across
the road...... and then took them home in our big bin and added them to our
compost heap.
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Jo Ann Malina - 20 Jul 2005 10:48 GMT
genileuqcaj@aol.com is alleged to have said:
> The problem with my father is that he has several hours every afternoon
> to himself. It's how he uses this time that worries me. I've offered
> to get a sitter for Mom and take him out for dinner or to the movies,
> to no avail. It's the isolation that I'm concerned about.
I don't want to be alarmist, but my mother isolated herself for some
years before her Alzheimer's became obvious and made her unable to live
alone any longer. Was the isolation an early sign of the disease, or
did it in some way help bring it on? Remember, they keep telling us to
keep mentally and socially active to help fend off Alzheimer's.
It's understandable that after coping with your mother full time,
your father might prefer to just hang out with his own thoughts,
especially if he's an introvert. All I can say is I'm a 55 year old
full time caretaker and find myself hungry for other, rational people
to talk to. Reading and tv and radio are not the same. I'd jump at
your offer. So probably it's time for a checkup for your Dad. You
do want to rule out depression and illness as well as dementia.

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Tumbleweed - 20 Jul 2005 11:06 GMT
> genileuqcaj@aol.com is alleged to have said:
>> The problem with my father is that he has several hours every afternoon
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> did it in some way help bring it on? Remember, they keep telling us to
> keep mentally and socially active to help fend off Alzheimer's.
they do but its also been shown in large scale studies to have no effect.
So those "that do", appear to have forgotten that :-)

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